Great Read: Just Run The Ball!
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"... coaches like passes because they are higher-status than rushes. Running the ball ... does not create an aura of coaching genius: setting aside whether any coach in any sport has ever been an actual...."
^ THAT
regulars here will recall that I posted very similar sentiment over a year ago.
^ THAT
regulars here will recall that I posted very similar sentiment over a year ago.
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It is a great read. It is less about running the ball versus passing the football, But it is more about coaches not having a clue how to manage the clock when their team has the lead.
A former HS Football Coach named John T Reed wrote an entire book on Clock Management. He also gave an AFCA presentation about Clock Management at a Coaching Clinic in the early 1990"s and one of men in the front row taking notes was Bill Walsh. The book totally changed my perspective about clock management.
When you are midway through the 4th quarter and you are up by 8 points or less. Treat the game as a tie. If you are up 9 points or more midway through the 4th then your opponent becomes the clock as much as the team across the field. Scoring becomes priority #2 behind melting the clock and closing out the game,
A former HS Football Coach named John T Reed wrote an entire book on Clock Management. He also gave an AFCA presentation about Clock Management at a Coaching Clinic in the early 1990"s and one of men in the front row taking notes was Bill Walsh. The book totally changed my perspective about clock management.
When you are midway through the 4th quarter and you are up by 8 points or less. Treat the game as a tie. If you are up 9 points or more midway through the 4th then your opponent becomes the clock as much as the team across the field. Scoring becomes priority #2 behind melting the clock and closing out the game,
While I am not questioning the validity author's premise, if you have a "can run or pass" offense, the bottom line is that you tend to run the ball a lot more when you are ahead (good teams) and throw the ball a lot more when you are behind (not good teams). So the stats can be misleading.
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Pete Carroll has always been big on using the run to set up the pass. Bush/White helped Palmer/Leinart work play action. Lynch makes the Seattle offense tick. Wilson is throwing the lights out right now, but they cannot get back to the Super Bowl as a wild card without Lynch/Rawls pounding the ball and setting up the passing game.
Well, establishing a running game has a lot of moving parts that make it a hell of a lot more complicated than just emphasis. You have to have linemen that are healthy and have the skill and the commitment, along with good coaching to establish an effective running attack; you need runners that know how to read blocks and zones, etc...; and you need a QB that can force the DBs to play off the line, etc... And as previously noted, you can't be playing catch up on the scoreboard. We had these qualities in 2012 and we have these in 2015. The one characteristic I really like about this years team is the OL's ability to effectively block in both the running game and the passing game. That said, we continue to struggle in the red zone as the field of play shrinks and we haven't shown the ability to effectively pass in this setting, and the defenses cheat against the run. We need this corrected come Fiesta Bowl.
I think the author is an ignorant jackass whose just second guessing, like most people do.
Doesn't give any detail other than the GB game, which I probably agree with (although you don't plan on throwing INT's and Rodgers rarely does anyway. A TD ends the game too).
Sites the 49ers on 2nd and goal from the 5. He just acts like its a sure thing. Just run the ball and your in. What if there's a two yard loss? Now its 3rd and goal from the 7.
Same thing with the Seahawks. Apparently, it was an automatic, which is why Wilson threw the ball. Even still, it was a hell of a play. I actually thought the safe thing to do was run it since they had three downs, but this guy acts like running automatically gets you the first down/points.
There isn't any right or wrong playcall for the most part. Its execution.
Doesn't give any detail other than the GB game, which I probably agree with (although you don't plan on throwing INT's and Rodgers rarely does anyway. A TD ends the game too).
Sites the 49ers on 2nd and goal from the 5. He just acts like its a sure thing. Just run the ball and your in. What if there's a two yard loss? Now its 3rd and goal from the 7.
Same thing with the Seahawks. Apparently, it was an automatic, which is why Wilson threw the ball. Even still, it was a hell of a play. I actually thought the safe thing to do was run it since they had three downs, but this guy acts like running automatically gets you the first down/points.
There isn't any right or wrong playcall for the most part. Its execution.
All I meant was he should have ran the ball in last years super bowl at the end when they were on the one yard line.
If you are going to be pass happy you better have a stout and salty defense. This is the crux of the biscuit (thank you Frank Zapppa) at ND.
ND needs a running game to spare the defense as well as to eat the clock. It's a proven formula at ND
As said above 2012 and 2015 speack volumes about the value in which it was applied.
ND needs a running game to spare the defense as well as to eat the clock. It's a proven formula at ND
As said above 2012 and 2015 speack volumes about the value in which it was applied.
hope you didn't break your arm patting yourself on the back. that would be horrible for the holidays. how many calls have you gotten about some of the current head coaching vacancies nationwide ?
I don't concern myself with hirings/firings that don't have a bearing on ND
and...again like the other guy, and as usual, you missed the point of the article and my comment about it.
I bet you still don't get it.
I wouldn't count the 2012 season as a great example of running the ball .
We struggled against Purdue winning ,20-17.
We beat Michigan 13-6 because Michigan had 6 turnovers .
We beat Stanford 20-13 inOT.
We beat BYU 17-14.
We beat Pitt in OT 29-26 only because the usually reliable Pitt kicker missed a 29 yard field goal at the end of regulation.
We did look dominant against a very mediocre Miami team and our best game was at Oklahoma winning 31-13 .
Also Tommy Rees had to come in and rescue Golson in a few games ,and throw short passes in come from behind wins.
Plus in 2012 we had a very good offensive line with Christian Lombard, Chris Watt, Braxton Cave ,Zach Martin ,Mike Golic with Nick Martin , Mike Hegarty,Connor Hanratty in reserve . Stanley red-shirted in 2012. We really didn't dominate and just had enough to beat these average teams.
We struggled against Purdue winning ,20-17.
We beat Michigan 13-6 because Michigan had 6 turnovers .
We beat Stanford 20-13 inOT.
We beat BYU 17-14.
We beat Pitt in OT 29-26 only because the usually reliable Pitt kicker missed a 29 yard field goal at the end of regulation.
We did look dominant against a very mediocre Miami team and our best game was at Oklahoma winning 31-13 .
Also Tommy Rees had to come in and rescue Golson in a few games ,and throw short passes in come from behind wins.
Plus in 2012 we had a very good offensive line with Christian Lombard, Chris Watt, Braxton Cave ,Zach Martin ,Mike Golic with Nick Martin , Mike Hegarty,Connor Hanratty in reserve . Stanley red-shirted in 2012. We really didn't dominate and just had enough to beat these average teams.
