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"Falcons linebacker Prince Shembo charged with killing dog"

Shembo and Notre Dame fully cooperated with the investigation, they did not talk to the media. FSU and Winston refused to cooperate with the investigation, hiding behind their lawyer and you lied, once again, by misstating the facts. The entire difference between Shemo and Winston is that one, Winston's, was rape and the other, Shembo's, was never even close to rape outside pf liar like No1e who attack all things Notre Dame.

Let's think about this, Shembo is a POS for kicking a dog, but on your words, a rapist like Winston, is a "fine representative of FSU and someone to be proud of."

What a hypocrite!

Dubs, please reserve all your replies for bigfella. It's better for the board.
Your inability to track your handles is dare I say "epic".
 
Dubs, please reserve all your replies for bigfella. It's better for the board.
Your inability to track your handles is dare I say "epic".


The ignore function is a wonderful thing. I can only imagine what insane rant elicited this response.
 
Shembo and Notre Dame fully cooperated with the investigation, they did not talk to the media. FSU and Winston refused to cooperate with the investigation, hiding behind their lawyer and you lied, once again, by misstating the facts. The entire difference between Shemo and Winston is that one, Winston's, was rape and the other, Shembo's, was never even close to rape outside pf liar like No1e who attack all things Notre Dame.

Let's think about this, Shembo is a POS for kicking a dog, but on your words, a rapist like Winston, is a "fine representative of FSU and someone to be proud of."

What a hypocrite!
There's NOTHING hypocritical about my post. I'm not defending anyone.

First of all I have NEVER accused Shembo of being a rapist. Unlike you, "Innocent until proven guilty" is what I consistently stand by. I believe in America and the rules of justice. You don't.

Secondly, as I figured you would do, you completely missed the point of my post. My post was factual with links and pointed out your horrid hypocrisy regarding Shembo and Winston. Neither was found guilty of anything. The witnesses and the accuser for Shembo died. The witnesses and Kinsman (who has been proven to be unreliable and a liar) lives.

ND's investigative prowess in the case (or should I say lack of) makes the Winston case look like the most vetted case in history. Ask the Seebergs what they think. That's why the US Dept of Education came in to investigate. That's why ND changed their sexual assault policies twice in two years.

Thirdly I didn't misrepresent anything. I copied and pasted the article particulars you turned a blind eye to. I provided one of many links that refutes everything you say.

And fourthly I'm not attacking ND. I'm attacking your hypocrisy and pathological lying by refuting your made up stories with actual facts. Facts that continue to confuse the hell out of you.

Give it up argus. You are digging a hole to China.
 
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The ignore function is a wonderful thing. I can only imagine what insane rant elicited this response.
You're the best & you don't want to know.

cliff note version: Shembo killing a dog has more honor/isn't worse than winston being accused of rape....it gets worse. The full body of work is what you would expect from someone that sees counting to 3 as a challenge.

I had his and other handles on ignore, but got drawn back by the ongoing lies that did not portray ND or ND fans in an honest way. It's the double edged sword.

I don't understand why board ops allows it. I am guessing that posts = hits on their daily/weekly/monthly report. However, what they may be missing is that folks/posters are giving up on this site do to dubs'/epic's/big's other aliases hatred for ND.

It's obvious he is hell bent on taking this site down the tubes.

He gets tossed from other boards and finds safe haven here... Go figure.
 
No it doesnt. It doesnt change the facts of that case. Dang you're ignorant.

Well at absolute minimum, Shembo beating a dog to death does certainly call into question his integrity and thus his version of the story in the Seeburg incident. Before he killed a dog, you could certainly give him the benefit of the doubt in a he said/she said case, but now, you have to wonder if a guy who is capable of beating a little defenseless animal to death is telling the truth about what happened with Seeburg.

Me personally, I had always given him the benefit of the doubt, even if I felt there was probably more to the story than he was telling. But now, I have to say, I can't look at him and immediately wonder if he didnt do something really monstrous to that girl, just like he did that dog. He's lost any credibility with me, so I just assume the worse with a guy like that.
 
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Well at absolute minimum, Shembo beating a dog to death does certainly call into question his integrity and thus his version of the story in the Seeburg incident. Before he killed a dog, you could certainly give him the benefit of the doubt in a he said/she said case, but now, you have to wonder if a guy who is capable of beating a little defenseless animal to death is telling the truth about what happened with Seeburg.

Me personally, I had always given him the benefit of the doubt, even if I felt there was probably more to the story than he was telling. But now, I have to say, I can't look at him and immediately wonder if he didnt do something really monstrous to that girl, just like he did that dog. He's lost any credibility with me, so I just assume the worse with a guy like that.

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Well said Fatty. Exactly. Shembo has lost any support This is not about if ND did the right thing. This is about Shembo

And Turnover Machine you have zero cred on this board and have been called out countless times. Now that you of all people have called me ignorant I can join the majority of posters here in recognizing you as a pos
 
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Well at absolute minimum, Shembo beating a dog to death does certainly call into question his integrity and thus his version of the story in the Seeburg incident. Before he killed a dog, you could certainly give him the benefit of the doubt in a he said/she said case, but now, you have to wonder if a guy who is capable of beating a little defenseless animal to death is telling the truth about what happened with Seeburg.

Me personally, I had always given him the benefit of the doubt, even if I felt there was probably more to the story than he was telling. But now, I have to say, I can't look at him and immediately wonder if he didnt do something really monstrous to that girl, just like he did that dog. He's lost any credibility with me, so I just assume the worse with a guy like that.
Turnover is just a smarter No1e/cgvr with a bit more credibility.

Please make sure epic and bigf chime in. Your recent losing track of who you are was really funny.
 
Nole, it's hard to imagine a post that more clearly defines you as the one in which you expect ND fans to circle the wagons for Shembo despite these apparently horrific acts. There is a word for that and it's "projecting". If things are as they appear, and they almost certainly are, he is a very disturbed guy that needs to be accountable for this atrocious act.
 
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Nole, it's hard to imagine a post that more clearly defines you as the one in which you expect ND fans to circle the wagons for Shembo despite these apparently horrific acts. There is a word for that and it's "projecting". If things are as they appear, and they almost certainly are, he is a very disturbed guy that needs to be accountable for this atrocious act.
Actually you couldn't be more wrong .... in a sense.

I have the utmost respect for the vast majority of ND posters and the remarks and attitude regarding and vilifying this horrific act is exactly what I expected from most. The classy folks with integrity didn't disappoint.

I didn't project anything from those posters. If I projected then it was only from experience with one poster (with 22 + different usernames) who has always made excuses for any bad behavior stemming from ND or its players. Since he defended Shembo while at ND and went as far to say he would have no problem trusting Shembo and his fine character (saying either Lizzie was a liar or mentally imbalanced) with his own daughter I just assumed status quo with this incident.

I agree... he needs to be held accountable and it was an atrocious act.
 
Turnover is just a smarter No1e/cgvr with a bit more credibility.
LOL .... YOU mentioning the word smarter and or credibility in any post is the height of hypocrisy. How many times do you need to be reminded of this before you get it?
 
IF he did such a thing he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Unlike others who No1e have defended, and lied for, no one should avert justice by not investigating, no one should lie and hide evidence, all those involved should cooperate with police, even if the police are also corrupt and the authorities are trying to hide the truth.

It is amazing to me that No1e spouts his credentials for protecting dogs, but fails to acknowledge that the guy he defended has two women who have said he attacked them, yet No1e defends them.

It is kind of funny how that works when you lack basic moral integrity like No1e!
Is there any thread that you can't turn into an fsu bash?
 
Is there any thread that you can't turn into an fsu bash?


There can be only one poster to whom this question is addressed. That poster is mentally ill. He is a cancer to this board in particular and to society in general. He should be institutionalized, if not incarcerated.
 
There can be only one poster to whom this question is addressed. That poster is mentally ill. He is a cancer to this board in particular and to society in general. He should be institutionalized, if not incarcerated.
I can't for the life of me figure out why he has safe haven here. According to perse's recent posturing/menacing he is part of board ops. Why hasn't he done something? It is beyond ridiculous.
 
Agreed! No1e should be executed as well'

He's talking about you idiot ! But then you know that.

I have never brought FSU up at this site one time in 8 years. I respond to your illness which seems like 95% of your posts. Because it is.
 
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OMG^^^^^^^^. You have never brought up FSU!

That may be a bigger lie then you saying FSU never cheated. Wow, what a serious POS.
 
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OMG^^^^^^^^. You have never brought up FSU!

That may be a bigger lie then you saying FSI never cheated. Wow, what a serious POS.
Not once ..... not ever!

Contrary to your belief this is a ND message board. I never have and never will bring up FSU here.

If you bring FSU up (fat chance of that happening...:rolleyes:) or if a poster asks a question about FSU then I will certainly respond accordingly. But I have NEVER initiated a post talking about FSU....... and no matter how many times you lie saying I have it will not alter the truth. Just like the lie you just told saying I said FSU never cheated. Continuing to tell that lie will never turn it into the truth either.

You are pathological.
 
Nole, you said "I am sure one of our Notre Dame Defense Ministers will try to rationalize this behavior." If you meant Argus, then you came over here to start trouble with him (something which you claim you never do). Plus he proved you wrong. In other words, you came over looking for trouble and our resident buffoon kicked your ass. Ouch.
 
Nole, you said "I am sure one of our Notre Dame Defense Ministers will try to rationalize this behavior." If you meant Argus, then you came over here to start trouble with him (something which you claim you never do). Plus he proved you wrong. In other words, you came over looking for trouble and our resident buffoon kicked your ass. Ouch.
You have a vivid imagination. But you are entitled to that.
 
No1e, you don't have any imagination, intelligence or decency. You are simply a stone cold liar, who lies on one post and then refuses to admit you ever said something on the next.

As stated by many, you are one sick POS.
 
No1e, you don't have any imagination, intelligence or decency. You are simply a stone cold liar, who lies on one post and then refuses to admit you ever said something on the next.

As stated by many, you are one sick POS.
There you go again with the hypocrisy. Calling others names that you have written the book on and become a Rivals Message Board poster boy for.

Clean up your own act before worrying about the truth that I tell. Again, name one lie I have ever said without telling a lie in the process. You can't. There are none.

Or better yet, provide a link to anything I have ever said and refuted later. Even another poster (other than your aliases) that will back you up. Excuse me if I don't hold my breath worrying that you'll ever find one.

Just more stuff you have the sick need to make up.

Put the shovel down. The hole is getting deeper and deeper for you and your multiple bat crazy personalities.
 
No1e, you don't have any imagination, intelligence or decency. You are simply a stone cold liar, who lies on one post and then refuses to admit you ever said something on the next.

As stated by many, you are one sick POS.

Any news on whether Brent is still seeing the porn/k star?
 
Perse impersonated a moderator? Nice.

Yep, and not very well. This is a problem that we/ND have/has. As an alum message boards offer a lot as far as social fan/information exchange. One thing they do is provide a window to expose our/others fan bases behavior.

I can see more clearly what drives bitter animosity/hatred towards us. This is something I never understood as a student. However, over time I've come to conclude it's the phonies/ND wannabes like perse, argus, others.... who ruin things...

"lemme tell you something; you 2 carry on trashing the board callously, but unlikethe previous version of this forum, the IP addresses are notated here. If an ID gets banned, ALL the ID's from that IP address will be shucking corn!
You might want to learn to post with some degree of respect and civility. I have no reluctance to send you packing."
20perseverare,Saturday at 7:42 PM
 
How do you impersonate someone doing nothing?

That's funny. Well one way you do it is by threatening posters with banishment...

Maybe perse is argus' relative....

"lemme tell you something; you 2 carry on trashing the board callously, but unlikethe previous version of this forum, the IP addresses are notated here. If an ID gets banned, ALL the ID's from that IP address will be shucking corn!
You might want to learn to post with some degree of respect and civility. I have no reluctance to send you packing."
20perseverare,Saturday at 7:42 PM

slow on the uptake? implying?
then if you lose this access ...

22 perseverare, Saturday at 9:08 PM
 
Yep, and not very well. This is a problem that we/ND have/has. As an alum message boards offer a lot as far as social fan/information exchange. One thing they do is provide a window to expose our/others fan bases behavior.

I can see more clearly what drives bitter animosity/hatred towards us. This is something I never understood as a student. However, over time I've come to conclude it's the phonies/ND wannabes like perse, argus, others.... who ruin things...

"lemme tell you something; you 2 carry on trashing the board callously, but unlikethe previous version of this forum, the IP addresses are notated here. If an ID gets banned, ALL the ID's from that IP address will be shucking corn!
You might want to learn to post with some degree of respect and civility. I have no reluctance to send you packing."
20perseverare,Saturday at 7:42 PM

I can remember going through that enlightenment. As a student in the pre-sports talk radio/pre-internet/pre-social media/pre-SEC Lovefest age, I was totally oblivious about how much some people around the country loathed us. Now it's pretty easy to see, when you consider that someone dealing with a dickhead like Argus might actually see him as a representative of ND.
 
I can remember going through that enlightenment. As a student in the pre-sports talk radio/pre-internet/pre-social media/pre-SEC Lovefest age, I was totally oblivious about how much some people around the country loathed us. Now it's pretty easy to see, when you consider that someone dealing with a dickhead like Argus might actually see him as a representative of ND.


I'm sure a lot of people think exactly that. Not only is he an insufferable nuisance, but he degrades ND and its reputation every time he posts on this board.
 
I can remember going through that enlightenment. As a student in the pre-sports talk radio/pre-internet/pre-social media/pre-SEC Lovefest age, I was totally oblivious about how much some people around the country loathed us. Now it's pretty easy to see, when you consider that someone dealing with a dickhead like Argus might actually see him as a representative of ND.

You are spot on. I've said this before, I was with an ND Five Star player's family and the # 1 recruit at his position at the Fiesta Bowl. There was an ND fan that was the most vile pos you've ever heard sitting near us. The jackass was vulgarly picking on OSU folks that could be grandparents. Anyway, he and his Rosie O'Donnell knock off wife/girlfriend got tossed and I spent a portion of the game apologizing on behalf of the school.

PS The Yankees have the same problem. There are so many di**head fans looking down there nose at others it makes people hate the team.

That ND family includes alums/sub alums/fans/othrs that represent the core Catholic values which ND is tied to.... My mom and grandmother adored/loved Notre Dame (three of my sisters have Mary as part of their name). However, due to the all male status they could never attend. Does that make them any less connected or supportive of the school?

Of course not....

PS In the past the Yankees had Billy Martin as manager. Plenty of people disliked his personality and how he represented himself. That did not make them any less fans of the Yankees. I say that because kelly has rubbed some folks the wrong way too....
 
I'm sure a lot of people think exactly that. Not only is he an insufferable nuisance, but he degrades ND and its reputation every time he posts on this board.
Bingo.
 
You should know a thing or two about stupidity, after reading some of your posts!!
Sorry. After all these years and all the publicity of the alleged incident I have no choice but to feel that anyone who brings up Shembo's "rape charge" in a thread is just plain stupid.
 
Having worked with our local Humane Society and initiated and still run a fundraising program called "Cause For Paws" which helps and treats abused animals this is beyond unbelievable. This is flat out criminal and to kill an animal which likely had no way of protecting itself in this fashion is pathetic. If guilty I hope they throw the book at him.

I'm sure one of our ND Defense Ministers will rationalize the behavior. Can't wait to hear the spin.
Can not rationalize animal crualty. Heck i can not watch the peta ads
 
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