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ESPN leftist Kellerman says NFL (and all sports) inject politics into sports

Oh yes, I'm such a racist.

Poor, oppressed little guy. Such a snowflake.

It's great to see that you've decided that racism is okay....based on which race you're biased against.

Have to love the hypocrisy of the libs....by far the most racist major political group, but they love accusing others of being racist!

Keep up that hypocrisy and racism buddy!
(it probably doesn't have anything to do with why libs have been voted out of power at literally every single level of government)
 
It's great to see that you've decided that racism is okay....based on which race you're biased against.

Have to love the hypocrisy of the libs....by far the most racist major political group, but they love accusing others of being racist!

Keep up that hypocrisy and racism buddy!
(it probably doesn't have anything to do with why libs have been voted out of power at literally every single level of government)

Keep up that culture of victimhood, little guy. Just can't catch a break, those white men.
 
Keep up that culture of victimhood, little guy. Just can't catch a break, those white men.

Lol.
I love that the left has fully embraced open racism.

But the left just can't figure out how they've managed to lose any and all relevancy/power in election, after election, after election....

I bet the racism and hypocrisy have nothing to do with it. So stay strong!
 
If one hypocrite calls someone else a hypocrite, is it a double negative? Canceling out both, making them both paragons of virtue? Or just a couple grown men acting like schoolyard kids?
 
If one hypocrite calls someone else a hypocrite, is it a double negative? Canceling out both, making them both paragons of virtue? Or just a couple grown men acting like schoolyard kids?
Always great to get such sage analysis from Dr. Phil.
 
by playing the national anthem and pressuring attendees into standing. No leftist bias at ESPN.

If standing wasn't political, then kneeling wouldn't be political either. It is just the sort of political that has become so normal no one notices until someone declines.
 
HDK - "Why do we play the national anthem before sporting events?" That is a very good question that I've never really thought about. My assumption is that it provides everyone at the event, regardless of which team you support, to come together and acknowledge that at the end of the day we are all on the same team and pay respect to a country that stands for freedom. And yes that freedom includes the right to not stand. That freedom includes the right to disagree publicly with each other. I think an issue we have now is that we are identifying a disagreement in policy as a morality issue. We have the right all day to disagree on policy but that doesn't make someone necessarily a bad person. When a person converts that to "if you disagree with me, you are morally wrong", the person eliminates the ability to compromise. They also hold themselves up as the appointed decider of good and evil/right and wrong. Everyone has a right to their beliefs as long as they don't infringe upon someone else's right to their own beliefs. Good question though. I've truly never thought about it.
 
I'm surprised anyone actually cared about what she said.

I agree with you up to a certain degree. What bothers me is the blatant double standard. Ewing, No one could say SH!t about the anointed one Barrack Hussein Obama. 94% or 93% of the media are registered democrats according to Politico. The vitriol towards the Trump and his off spring is unprecedented. From his daughter being attacked by the Hunter college professor with his gay husband. His son being mocked. I would expect this hate from some toothless white trash KKK meeting towards the previous president. BTW I would love to not watch espn at all but sometimes your forced. Sunday game of the week. Monday night football. Count me in for the most part I'm radio silent with that station. The numbers bear that out.
 
My understanding is that ESPN HAS to make some changes because their business model isn't working. I read an article that stated ESPN's performance, or lack thereof, is hurting the parent company's stock price. I think you will continue to see changes in personnel and programming until they right the ship.
 
My understanding is that ESPN HAS to make some changes because their business model isn't working. I read an article that stated ESPN's performance, or lack thereof, is hurting the parent company's stock price. I think you will continue to see changes in personnel and programming until they right the ship.

They aren't going to be able to "right the ship".

The business model has changed, and the money in "cable programs" just isn't what it used to be, and it never will be.
It's like newspapers that are trying to "right the ship"

ESPN has started this sprint towards leftist politics as an attempt to retain a specific segment of the market that they think they can combat cord-cutting, on-demand options, and upstarts (Fox Sports, NBCSN, etc.) for.

It hasn't gone well for them though, and they've begun to step into an even worse free-fall....leading to multiple rounds of large layoffs (which push ESPN even further into leftist politics)

In my opinion, it's clearly heading towards a the point where ESPN is going to split and create spin-offs that try to capture each "identity politics" group, before it's ultimate death (purchase and/or rebranding)

It's a part of the "new media" business model that's just becoming less and less viable
 
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They aren't going to be able to "right the ship".

The business model has changed, and the money in "cable programs" just isn't what it used to be, and it never will be.
It's like newspapers that are trying to "right the ship"

ESPN has started this sprint towards leftist politics as an attempt to retain a specific segment of the market that they think they can combat cord-cutting, on-demand options, and upstarts (Fox Sports, NBCSN, etc.) for.

It hasn't gone well for them though, and they've begun to step into an even worse free-fall....leading to multiple rounds of large layoffs (which push ESPN even further into leftist politics)

In my opinion, it's clearly heading towards a the point where ESPN is going to split and create spin-offs that try to capture each "identity politics" group, before it's ultimate death (purchase and/or rebranding)

It's a part of the "new media" business model that's just becoming less and less viable

Netflix was able to reinvent itself. I think Disney and the rest still have time to figure things out.
 
What's interesting and quite funny is the local sports media types want in on the ESPN social club. They want to network. They want to be part of that crowd. Most times, on any given local radio or TV sports talk show, it's amateur hour in its purest form. Pick any Chicago radio sports talk show. Its three hours of name dropping, inside jokes, slobbering over the national sports media, talking over each other, pointless and uniformed points, facts be damned. Brutal. I don't even know who I can trust anymore with my sports info on the national level. In regards to the Irish, it's WSBT, Eric Hansen and Darin Pritchett and the sourced info I get here.
 
The sportscenter show at 6 is brutal to watch. Maddog Mattis wants to make it a weapon in order to get the captured to talk.
#espnunwatchable
 
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Netflix was able to reinvent itself. I think Disney and the rest still have time to figure things out.

Netflix business model is the key issue that ESPN is suffering from. ESPN's issues are fundamentally different from those of Netflix.

ESPN's sprint into leftist politics is simply a symptom of their death spiral.

They're going to need a completely new business model in order to avoid their demise.
 
Netflix business model is the key issue that ESPN is suffering from. ESPN's issues are fundamentally different from those of Netflix.

ESPN's sprint into leftist politics is simply a symptom of their death spiral.

They're going to need a completely new business model in order to avoid their demise.

The point is Netflix responded with a completely new business model to what they were originally. And Disney is HUGE and has plenty of resources to make any necessary shifts. Stock is now at 105 down from the all time high of 120.
 
Virtue Signal Alert ...

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Meet the new clown, same as the old clown, only the current clown has Americans first and refugees and illegals somewhere down the list. Sounds like a winner to me.
He has Americans first? Is that why he's pushing for a piece of shit health care bill that has a 17% approval rating?
 
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I think BK should tweet, in the heat of the moment, during an actual game.
If he were a loser like Trump his tweet would be along the lines of, "Chip Helton of USC is dishonest guy....faked a punt and ran it back for a touchdown....he's a disgrace to humanity."
 
Boy, for a lefty who's not sure why he's a lefty, you sure have a lot of hate in your lefty heart. Smash a store window. It might make you feel better.
 
by playing the national anthem and pressuring attendees into standing. No leftist bias at ESPN.

"ESPN LEFTIST" hahaha jesus. Have a beer and relax. ESPN is going under and desperate for ratings. You getting your panties in a bunch about it is EXACTLY why they aired it. All they air all weekday is arguing. They are all CAPITALISTS. Your emotional echoing of them helps their currency. If you think they are some organized agenda pushing socialists WOW you give them way more credit and idealism intelligence than they deserve.
 
He has Americans first? Is that why he's pushing for a piece of shit health care bill that has a 17% approval rating?
Look, the healthcare system is broken. It needs to be fixed (if that's even possible). To make an omelet, you have to break a few eggs.

The fix is going to hurt a lot of people, but it may be better off for future generations and this country in general.

I'm a conservative, but I'm not a heartless human being. People are going to suffer, but the system needs an overhaul. Is Trump's plan the RIGHT plan?? Who knows. But it's an attempt to right the wrongs of previous attempts - with an emphasis on what's best for the country - not what's right for me or you personally.
 
Look, the healthcare system is broken. It needs to be fixed (if that's even possible). To make an omelet, you have to break a few eggs.

The fix is going to hurt a lot of people, but it may be better off for future generations and this country in general.

I'm a conservative, but I'm not a heartless human being. People are going to suffer, but the system needs an overhaul. Is Trump's plan the RIGHT plan?? Who knows. But it's an attempt to right the wrongs of previous attempts - with an emphasis on what's best for the country - not what's right for me or you personally.
I'm fortunate enough not to be affected in the slightest by this health care measure. That being said, there's no justification for advancing what has been drawn up. Remember, Trump vowed not to just repeal and replace Obamacare, he also said he was going to implement something better. Based on his own statement, if this thing passes, it will be a promise broken. Now please, if you feel differently, bully for you, but I'm on here to talk football, other sports, and then entertainment.
 
Look, the healthcare system is broken. It needs to be fixed (if that's even possible). To make an omelet, you have to break a few eggs.

The fix is going to hurt a lot of people, but it may be better off for future generations and this country in general.

I'm a conservative, but I'm not a heartless human being. People are going to suffer, but the system needs an overhaul. Is Trump's plan the RIGHT plan?? Who knows. But it's an attempt to right the wrongs of previous attempts - with an emphasis on what's best for the country - not what's right for me or you personally.
If you acknowledge that one of the main problems with the ACA is that it is not economically sustainable, then its naive for anyone to believe that there was going to be no pain or no downside to fixing it. Some people who had no coverage before the ACA are going back to having no coverage again. That's inevitable. It's not a good thing at all, but it's inevitable.
 
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Aggravated? Who's aggravated? I just responded to a post you made about not being able to form an opinion because a person doesn't tune into the station where it was said. That's dumb. If you wanna see aggravated, just take a look at the left since the election. Aggravated doesn't begin to tell the story. They're unhinged, like you.
Dude you are coming off very defensive and aggravated. At the very least you were aggravated enough that you though it was necessary to say "F ESPN"... I think the point is, if ESPN is so terrible and you know its terrible why does it matter what they say?
 
If you acknowledge that one of the main problems with the ACA is that it is not economically sustainable, then its naive for anyone to believe that there was going to be no pain or no downside to fixing it.
Can you advance what you think the Republicans will do to "fix it"? From all I've read, and I used to work at an employee benefits publishing house, extending health care coverage to the masses has never been a GOP priority. The ACA was never given a chance to succeed. Repeated efforts were made revoke funding the minute the measure passed.
 
littlegiant, how exactly am I being "very defensive and aggravated" for responding to a statement about not being able to form an opinion on a comment made by a commentator of a channel I don't watch? That was dumb. If me calling that dumb makes me "very defensive and aggravated" in your eyes, so be it. I said F ESPN because I don't like the what's happened to the channel. Sorry if I offended you by ripping into ESPN. Seems like you're the one who's being defensive though. Excellent attempt to try and paint me as the "very defensive and aggravated" one, but like a lot of your posts, it doesn't hold water. Have a nice night.
 
It is better than the steaming pile left by Barry O.
LOL, your taste buds must love sandwiches made of mouldy bread and green meat. I take it that you're not one of the millions who would lose their coverage.
 
Can you advance what you think the Republicans will do to "fix it"?

Nope. I readily admit that I look at this issue from 30,000 ft because I have great benefits/insurance and if somehow I lost mine, my wife has them available to us. Both my kids are in their late 20s, both of them have good benefits/insurance. So its not an issue I get into the weeds on.

IMHO, I think what Americans want in this area is not feasible. They want the freedom of choice and structure of service that our current health system provides for most people, but they want everyone to have easy access to all of it like some of the European systems theoretically have. I think those two things are mutually exclusive, and you are going to have a hard time getting the 75% to 80% of Americans who are content with their healthcare situation (define "situation" as the relationship of the care the person has available and the economic cost of that care) to accept a worse situation so the 20% to 25% can have a better situation. And to think that you won't have to make that tradeoff is, IMHO, unrealistic.
 
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littlegiant, how exactly am I being "very defensive and aggravated" for responding to a statement about not being able to form an opinion on a comment made by a commentator of a channel I don't watch? That was dumb. If me calling that dumb makes me "very defensive and aggravated" in your eyes, so be it. I said F ESPN because I don't like the what's happened to the channel. Sorry if I offended you by ripping into ESPN. Seems like you're the one who's being defensive though. Excellent attempt to try and paint me as the "very defensive and aggravated" one, but like a lot of your posts, it doesn't hold water. Have a nice night.
What am I being being defensive of? I feel like this whole thread you are essentially just saying "No I am not you are..." to any type of criticism you have received.
 
LOL, your taste buds must love sandwiches made of mouldy bread and green meat. I take it that you're not one of the millions who would lose their coverage.
Those millions don't lose coverage they choose not to purchase coverage
 
Nope. I readily admit that I look at this issue from 30,000 ft because I have great benefits/insurance and if somehow I lost mine, my wife has them available to us. Both my kids are in their late 20s, both of them have good benefits/insurance. So its not an issue I get into the weeds on.

IMHO, I think what Americans want in this area is not feasible. They want the freedom of choice and structure of service that our current health system provides for most people, but they want everyone to have easy access to all of it like some of the European systems theoretically have. I think those two things are mutually exclusive, and you are going to have a hard time getting the 75% to 80% of Americans who are content with their healthcare situation (define "situation" as the relationship of the care the person has available and the economic cost of that care) to accept a worse situation so the 20% to 25% can have a better situation. And to think that you won't have to make that tradeoff is, IMHO, unrealistic.
No denying that it isn't an economically daunting challenge, but certainly the best way to address it isn't giving a giant tax cut to those who really don't need it. Moreover, this pie in the sky idea of radically improved and less expensive coverage is something that Trump promised. Perhaps all politicians are guilty of making unrealistic promises, but it's strange that the one with some of the most egregious reneging never gets called on it. I see the dangers of depleted health care severely imperiled by environmental deregulation. Contaminated water and dirty air will no doubt cause raise incidents of poor health. Let's not forget the "revitalized" coal industry.
 
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