Elite 2025 TE Nate Roberts is Irish
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I am in the middle. I do think we can say we are losing some kids to NIL. That’s a no brainer. I do believe pre NIL Freeman gets some of these kids like Scott and Dante.
Same rate, we are still keeping some kids with big $ offers. Depends on the kid and thinking Roberts is a Dante type kid just bc he’s a likely 5 star is just far far off. They couldn’t be more different with more different families. Again, we are talking about a Catholic small town kid that has visited every major campus with a family of college athletes. There’s very unlikely a leach dad or uncle seeking a new car, gold chain, and a free monthly pair of Air Jordan’s.
Same rate, we are still keeping some kids with big $ offers. Depends on the kid and thinking Roberts is a Dante type kid just bc he’s a likely 5 star is just far far off. They couldn’t be more different with more different families. Again, we are talking about a Catholic small town kid that has visited every major campus with a family of college athletes. There’s very unlikely a leach dad or uncle seeking a new car, gold chain, and a free monthly pair of Air Jordan’s.
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Blows up? He already blew up. He was/is a 5 star.
Carr and Williams are tier 1 elite players. The money is already out there for them
They are tier 1 prospects no doubt. The issue is that we have 2 of them, our competitors have 5-10 of them. The other issue is that ND has a really poor track record securing commitments from tier 1 prospects in recent times, especially in this NIL era. We can't count our chickens before they hatch.
3 schools will get 5 to 10 tier 1 prospects
Georgia, Bama, OSU
Thats it.
We're never going to recruit at their level or at least not consistently.
We need to recruit very very good classes (which we are doing) and land the elite qb (Carr) and surround him with talent.
Follow that model and win a playoff game or somehow win a title then the recruiting floodgates can open more.
Theres a few more tier 1 type guys on the board we need to land
"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it."--George Bernard Shaw.
Right now it's Georgia, Bama, OSU, TA&M
5+ years ago it was Bama, OSU, LSU, Clemson, Florida
10 years ago it was USC, Florida State, Texas, Bama, etc.
15 years ago it was OU, Texas, USC, Florida
Point being, it's a revolving door of elite programs over a long period of time that has dominated/monopolized the talent pool.
Bottom line there are 10-15 programs now on aggregate that ND has been behind on in recruiting for much of the last 15 years.
And there's only 1 example of a team winning first with mediocre talent and then getting tier 1 recruits instead of the other way around. And that program (Clemson) had other unique selling propositions at the time (loaded coaching staff making millions in salary across the board -- they were way out in front on this -- it wasn't just an elite QB that changed their fortune). That ship has sailed and is a very low probability model to cling to.
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I really wish that MF had a couple of seasons as HC at ND to recruit, before nil . I really believe those classes would have been legendary
I'm simply happy for Brian Kelly's 44-6 run from 2018-2021, that included two undefeated regular seasons and two CFB Playoff berths.
44-6 run with like an 0-6 record vs anybody relevant. Funny enough, despite the really impressive W-L record, Kelly's best run was in the early part of his tenure with Weis' recruits when you adjust for schedule & luck (F+).
NDs best team in the last 25+ years was that 2012 season where ND finished with a #6 F+ ranking. But even his 2010 and 2011 teams were much better than their record indicated when you looked under the hood. Next best was 2015 when ND had 8 legit NFL prospects/players on their offense and finished with a top 10 offensive season. Since then it has been a lot of "blah" (which reflects the level of talent that has come through here since then)
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Which ended in complete beatdowns by superior teams almost every season
Like I said 3 teams
Texas am is not in that group. They had 1 great class and about 10 of those guys already transferred
3 teams
Again. "Never wrestle with pigs. The pig likes it and you just get dirty."--George Bernard Shaw
It's this insistence/mentality/narrative (downplaying the issues) among the ND beat/fans/community that is continuing the perpetuity of mediocrity at Notre Dame
We don't need slight tweaks around the edges at ND, we are waaaaay behind the tier 1 (which has been a number of programs over the last 25+ years), and need to cut off the head of the snake at ND and rebuild the whole thing back up.
I'm *really* hoping the recent changes at AD and HC is a sign of ND admins taking a big step in that direction.
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I'm REALLY hoping you find another team to be a 'fan' of.
I would typically agree here as we all know things can change in a hurry. But, I will say things seem to be different when kids announce their dream is to play at ND. These are the kids we can never let slip away. A commitment is the best we can do today and as far as I can tell, it seems truly firm.
Welcome Nate!
Carter Nelson might see the light too. If he does it means he bought into how he can be used with Roberts. What a duo that would be. Either way, Roberts is so advanced at his age he could be Kelce upside.
Probably LB. Not safety. But he's a TE for us for sure
If you're going to tell people the truth, you better make them laugh; otherwise they'll kill you.
— George Bernard Shaw
One should stay silent and appear intelligent rather than speak and prove himself a fool
You prove that with every post
Sounds like Baylor might send in a bid.
Chaseball.
BTW the Chase-bashing has gotten excessive on this board. People have opinions, that's why we are here.
I aint tripping it's mostly a vocal minority. There's a reason nobody speaks frankly about these issues, people aren't welcome to speak frankly about these issues around the ND community (nor am i). But having anonymous strangers pile on on the internet doesn't bother me.
Morons are not a source of anything worthwhile and to be blunt you have posted your share of garbage.
HE is nothing but an attention whore.
Likely flipping to OU sooner than later. Apparently ND (Parker) stopped recruiting him after he committed and lied saying they were only recruiting him. War Daddy killing it with tight end recruiting. OU media reporting he’s done with ND.
and this is why you don't get overly excited about verbal commitments -- yes, it is an accepted risk that all schools take
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Report: Notre Dame’s top 2025 verbal might not be firmly committed
The Irish are fighting to keep the commitment
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