This decomittment happened a while ago. I think the financials have been coming together before it was made official...and that took some time. JMO.
Deuce Knight De-Commit
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Goodbye and good luck, DK.
I have read that allegedly his parents now have jobs at Auburn. If true, maybe Auburn thinks this is insurance against a signing day surprise???
I have read that allegedly his parents now have jobs at Auburn. If true, maybe Auburn thinks this is insurance against a signing day surprise???
CJ Carr grew up two hours from South Bend. Deuce Knight grew up in Mississippi. Apples and Oranges.
Are you saying kids from Mississippi lack character and discipline, etc…? By all subjective conjecture, Carr should have been a Michigan lock and ND hater. Carr has been steady, locked in, extremely disciplined and committed to his craft and ND. Deuce has been erratic and largely dishonest, etc…. Which speaks to character. Deuce is an articulate worldly young man who knows better.
Why does no one seem to care when someone Flips to Notre Dame?
Do those kids lack character as well?
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The topic is Deuce Knight and how he's handled his commitment to Notre Dame.
There never was a commitment...there was a manipulation.
Prospects are like raffle tickets The more you have the better your chances are of hitting on one of them and the higher rated they are the more upside they probably have in terms of their potential production
We had a top 30 overall guy signed in our class and now he's gone (hard stop) these are the kind of losses on the rec trail that keep Notre Dame stuck somewhere in the back half of the tier 2 of teams in college football
Something's gotta change at Notre Dame with recruiting and it has to happen yesterday All this loss does is perpetuate the mediocrity
Notre Dame has way too much power clout money prestige etc to keep getting bullied out of the top talents in the country every cycle
When's the last time Notre Dame flipped a competitors highest rated recruit?
I think the last time was when we flipped Aaron Lynch from one of the top Florida schools back in like 2012
They flip up to ND(most of the time) from a clearly lesser football school … it’s rare to see nd flip a kid from a top power 4 school. It does happen though
Deuce flipped to a lesser program for what he believes in, that’s not ND
To not mention geography and stating that a born and bred Mississippi kid flipped to the SEC to a school much closer to home is simply disingenuous.
It doesn’t fit your bullshit narrative.
I get it. But DK coming to ND....it just never felt realistic.
-go to class
-live and play in the cold
-fight for PT from Day 1
-live in dorms.
That all works for some guys. I never sensed that it would work for Deuce Knight. I never envisioned him getting to year 2 or 3 at Notre Dame.
I hope you are joking. I'd leave the spot open and try to snag TWO elite QBs in the next class. You only get a certain amount of available slots on the 85 man roster for QBs. Most of them will flame out, even the highest rated ones. ND needs to stop being so conservative/risk adverse and start taking greater chances on all of the very best prospects at the position in the country, even if the dissatisfied ones shake loose and you are essentially playing musical chairs with the spots at QB on the roster. EMBRACE THE RISK. Who cares if you have a bunch of alphas on the roster that are coming and going? That's a good problem to have.
This goes beyond just the Quarterback position, and something ND should be doing with ALL of their position groups. Taking way more risk on the unknown, being ok with roster turnover at the position groups, valuing each available spot on the 85 man roster for the jewel that it is, and valuing the very scarce amount of star power at the top end of each recruiting cycle for the rarity that it is.
I feel like right now you can always get bodies freely in the transfer portal if you need to add some last minute warm bodies to the roster (you shouldn't be committing to 4-years on guys who you think will be potential back ups). You should be using your HS recruiting to mine as much upside/star power as possible and using the transfer portal to fill holes/keep the team afloat in the meantime as a last resort if you cant land the home run prospects on the rec trail.
ND isn't treating top end talent for the scarce immensely valuable asset in college football that it is right now. Instead ND is pulling in average to good talent from all corners: and then filling up all their 85-man roster with bodies and there's no room left for superstar talent at the top end. So yes NDs roster is deep from 1-85 but deep with little upside.
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What’s my narrative? Especially a BS one as you claim? I don’t even have one
Nd isn’t landing kids only from Indiana?
Underrated comment.
It makes you think, what does Auburn have that ND doesn't?
Better schedule, better conference prestige (SEC), more NFL eyeballs/scouts, more exciting games against tier 1 competition, more money maybe, more respect in the SEC, better facilities, etc.
THATS like a compass on what areas of the organization Notre Dame needs to improve going forward to really start chipping away at this talent gap.
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Warm weather. Beautiful campus. No academic expectations. Awesome party scene. Gorgeous girls. The 4 years at Auburn will simply be easier than the 4 years at ND.
Deuce isn't built for ND. It's clear to me.
Yes of course I’d rather we get a more talented QB. You’re a real genius for coming to that conclusion and writing 4 paragraphs on it. But there’s a good chance minchey AND angeli transfer before next season. Not guaranteed but it’s very possible. That would leave us with literally no scholarship QBs behind CJ Carr. I think it’s very important that we sign a qb in the 2025 class for this reason. And most likely it will be a low 4 star guy, it’s just the reality and timing of the situation.
One might think you'd be a little mothereffin' humbled right now, after ND's big brush with an elite 5-star QB recruit that meets your high standards ended in tears, with ND left at the altar yet again. But no, you're doubling down, naturally. We gotta go after even more elite recruits, we don't ever settle for three stars, or even four stars if they're not already committed to an elite program. We can get bodies anywhere. We have to get elite recruits, there's no alternative. We'll sell the buildings of the university itself to do it if that's what it takes.
For a troll holy shit are you committed to this routine.
This is the only path to ever winning a national title again (closing the talent gap), and yet ND is not even making slight progress, they are going backwards 🤦♂️
And fans love them some 9-3 status quo nothing-burger seasons, year after year after year after year after year like groundhogs day
I dont get it. I dont get why there aren't more fans frustrated with the situation.
I can't wait for 2025 to root for another 9-3 season with a garbage schedule and a 85 man roster void of any top end talent. Can't wait!
Just shows you the kid doesn't belong at ND.
The same 5 star that you were calling a low 4 star over the summer. You are worse than the WH
better...
If yes Then redundant with above.
No
Neaux
Doubtful
No
Doubtful
I am actually impressed that you made a plan for action. That is different from your usual lament. It's still completely imitative though. You are proposing that ND imitate whoever won lately.
I think there is merit on the quarterback room concerns. It is pivotal. It's possible that regardles of which quarterback starts...the other one or two could leave. In fact, I think it's likely that at least one will....regardless of who starts. The Achilles Heel at ND (quarterback) remains in place.
This gets thrown around a lot when ND loses a recruit to another school. Can anyone confirm that this is accurate or just conjecture? Because as a QB at ND you can make a lot of NIL money and it's been reported that ND is a top 10 school for NIL money. Whether that's true or not, i have no idea.
No intel. They are both starter level QBs though and will have been here for 3 seasons in Angelo’s case and 2 in Mincheys. If they get passed up by a younger player common sense says they will at least consider transferring. Maybe Minchey stays one more year to get his degree. But even then you kind of need a semi serviceable 3rd string guy to really feel comfortable. It’s unlikely a transfer comes here to be a backup so getting a 2025 kid is our best bet
Only 31 points for the number 2 offense in the country 🤣🤣
By recognized rating systems they are 30th in offensive yards per game.
"Only thing about this particular saga is I wish Freeman had the balls to kick Deuce to the curb the minute it was known he was taking visits to other schools."
As Weis said -- "if you're looking, we're looking!
Exactly, MF should have started recruiting another QB the second DK stepped foot on the Auburn campus. Didn't Freeman state a while back, if a committed recruit takes a visit they'll pull the scholarship?
They have been recruiting other QBs since the summer
