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[sjb75]

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I'm just relating what other people in the business have said for years. He's been a coach for a long long time. Never once was he ever a serious candidate for a true OC position or a head coaching gig. His alma mater passed him over for the head coaching job after he went after it hard. Absolutely no one ever hired him for his ability to "teach" running backs. That's a pretty good group there you mentioned. Hard to screw that up. I think those players themselves deserve the bulk of the credit. I never said he was "bad". As a true coach he's mediocre. He's just not a teacher. Weis hired a bunch of guys who were really good recruiters but were average at best position coaches. Finding those guys who excel at both is key. Keep an eye on the young guy at Boston College. Lots of chatter about him coming to ND. Fit matters too and I don't think Alford would be a Freeman type of guy. Good chance I'm wrong . I just go by what I hear making my rounds.

"I just go by what I hear."

Whatever.

 

[Classic Irish]

I'm just relating what other people in the business have said for years. He's been a coach for a long long time. Never once was he ever a serious candidate for a true OC position or a head coaching gig. His alma mater passed him over for the head coaching job after he went after it hard. Absolutely no one ever hired him for his ability to "teach" running backs. That's a pretty good group there you mentioned. Hard to screw that up. I think those players themselves deserve the bulk of the credit. I never said he was "bad". As a true coach he's mediocre. He's just not a teacher. Weis hired a bunch of guys who were really good recruiters but were average at best position coaches. Finding those guys who excel at both is key. Keep an eye on the young guy at Boston College. Lots of chatter about him coming to ND. Fit matters too and I don't think Alford would be a Freeman type of guy. Good chance I'm wrong . I just go by what I hear making my rounds.

I assume you mean Savon Huggins, the RB coach at BC. I remember when ND tried to recruit him out of high school. I think Alford was his recruiter in fact. Boy, do I feel old.

 

[echowaker]

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"I just go by what I hear."

Whatever.

From people in the know. I talk to active high profile college football people nearly every day in my current position. I have also been very fortunate to know and be friends and acquaintances with many many college coaches in my 55 years of life.....whatever

 

[echowaker]

I assume you mean Savon Huggins, the RB coach at BC. I remember when ND tried to recruit him out of high school. I think Alford was his recruiter in fact. Boy, do I feel old.

Don't we all. Young Mr. Huggins is a fast rising name in the coaching world. Kind of like Max Bullough. I think he may fit the dynamic well that MF has established.

 

[Pennick4]

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"I just go by what I hear."

Whatever.

Brilliant stuff..🙄

 

[sjb75]

Brilliant stuff..🙄

Dude piling on Tony Alford. Again. Whatever.

 

[chaseball]

Obviously Lou Holtz saw the error of his ways, he realized what he had done, that he had erred very gravely, that he never had any business leaving the college ranks, and he wasn't a fool to do it, he was a jerk! You don't leave CFB, for the pros. What are you, nuts? Everybody knows that. You just don't do it. If there's one thing you don't do as a football coach it's that. You stay right where you are in the collegiate football ranks. And Holtz came hustling back with a quickness. Because he knew he was wrong.

Basically your post is a good template for what makes Jim Harbaugh so special/accomplished/legendary as a head football coach. Because you are right, you dont leave college for the pros when you are successful in college/at the top of the sport. But Harbaugh bucked the odds by getting it done in college (national title, rebuliding Stanford of all places), and got it done in the NFL by making it to the superbowl and multiple conference championship games.

 

[Pennick4]

Dude piling on Tony Alford. Again. Whatever.

Brilliant!

 

[savvyandsassier]

Basically your post is a good template for what makes Jim Harbaugh so special/accomplished/legendary as a head football coach. Because you are right, you dont leave college for the pros when you are successful in college/at the top of the sport. But Harbaugh bucked the odds by getting it done in college (national title, rebuliding Stanford of all places), and got it done in the NFL by making it to the superbowl and multiple conference championship games.

Dude, I was totally joking. I don't give a shit what some coach does, you do whatever you think is right. YOLO. And if you suck in the NFL, then whatever. Use your best judgement. I was mocking this ridiculous slap fight over the relative wisdom of college coaches going to the NFL, and coaching there. And it just felt like it needed to be mocked. And that's what I thought of off the top of my head.

JH is from a coaching family, and he played in the NFL for like, 20 years. He ain't scared of that shit.

 

[chaseball]

I assume you mean Savon Huggins, the RB coach at BC. I remember when ND tried to recruit him out of high school. I think Alford was his recruiter in fact. Boy, do I feel old.

LOL Savon Huggins looked so nasty on HS film, he was a borderline 5-star at RB and ND was a favorite during his recruitment. I think he was initially recruited by Weis, but then when BK took over, he took over Huggins' recruitment. I remember reading a Savon Huggins quote, and he said that during BKs home visit with him, Brian Kelly came off super cheesie promising to rebuild his entire system around him.

Dude, I was totally joking. I don't give a shit what some coach does, you do whatever you think is right. YOLO. And if you suck in the NFL, then whatever. Use your best judgement. I was mocking this ridiculous slap fight over the relative wisdom of college coaches going to the NFL, and coaching there. And it just felt like it needed to be mocked. And that's what I thought of off the top of my head.

JH is from a coaching family, and he played in the NFL for like, 20 years. He ain't scared of that shit.

Legit thoughts, jokes -- who cares? Your post sparked a thought that I had a strong opinion about.

 

[savvyandsassier]

LOL Savon Huggins looked so nasty on HS film, he was a borderline 5-star at RB and ND was a favorite during his recruitment. I think he was initially recruited by Weis, but then when BK took over, he took over Huggins' recruitment. I remember reading a Savon Huggins quote, and he said that during BKs home visit with him, Brian Kelly came off super cheesie promising to rebuild his entire system around him.



Legit thoughts, jokes -- who cares? Your post sparked a thought that I had a strong opinion about.

I don't know, maybe there is wisdom in staying college if you're a successful coach, the NFL is not exactly the same thing. But you gotta decide for yourself. If you're someone like Holtz or Nick Saban you might not win as much, because you can't recruit, and maybe coach players quite the same way. But for a position coach I'm not sure why it would matter too much.