Culture of negativity

[kellyirish35]

BTW - FL Irish

If in the future you find me having any dialogue w Purse - CVGR - Turnover etc please say a prayer for me and know I have lost any sense of real judgement .

 

[sullytipp]

Well, below is my earlier reply in its entirety. I hope you find it satisfactory. Imo this poster may actually be the purplefaced one..... He sure is shrill enough...

"We went into the Clemson game w a first yr QB". That's a crock. He has been in the program for 2 years.

What did Winston do as a RS Freshman? What did Cardale Jones do as a third string. I think he was a junior....

Turn off your kelly force field for a moment and stop putting down people as if you're some football sage. A lot went wrong in that game and the HC shoulders a big part of the responsibility. The play calls for the first 3 quarters contributed to Kizer's inaccuracy and our being bogged down whether you like it or not.

The fact is if kelly had gone to the high percentage routes earlier we may have won. Fuller, Brown, Hunter and others in space short were deadly..... Clemson had no answer. kelly didn't discover and exploit that soon enough. (now blame the assistant coaches)

That 4th quarter was a helluva a tear....sadly it was too late and we ran out of clock....

Also, some of kelly's sideline "teaching opportunities" continue to be an ongoing embarrassment. His tirades do not instill confidence. That's very evident.

46 cgvr, Tuesday at 9:24 PM

That was some brilliant analysis of Kelly's playcalling."the calls Kelly made in the passing game,contributed to Kizer's inaccuracy???????? Let's see if you can comprehend this--- The qb gets a playcall,and then its his job to throw to the receiver!! Got it?? The hc.oc,or qb coaches can't go out there and make the throw! You can disagree about the call,but the qb is responsible for putting the ball where it belongs. Also,if Kelly had given up on the run game as you suggested he should have, then it's"he gave up on the run and threw it all over the place". I'm just sorry you weren't coaching the team that night,since you obviously have more coaching knowledge than Kelly and his 25 year career!

 

[PHJIndy]

Curious that after a loss how significant portions of posters attack the coaching staff but after a win nary a word .

Frustrated jocks I suppose that in the invisible world of cyber space fantasize that if they were the coach the team would do better .

BTW just as a reminder to those sages to whom I refer , you do realize you have the benefit of hindsight ?

Starting with Knute Rockne - Bud Wilkinson thru Vince Lombardi not one of those guys after the fact would have called the same play over again if they knew it wouldn't work - not one time . Also in a 6-0 game vs army ND's offense didn't score on 90% of their possessions does that make Knute a horse's ass when it comes to offense ?

In the age of the internet ,when Wilkinson lost to ND ending his 50 game win streak there would have been infantile FUBARS in their basements blasting away on their keyboards taking shots at his play calls that day .

In my world I'm grateful that ND is now relevant again nationally and I tip my hat to Kelly , the staff and most importantly the players . Kudos - I find those that take pot shots over a 2 pt conversion decision or a fumble characterless . Just my opinion of course . What I do know is this , for ND to have been in a position to win that game Sat nite speaks volumes to the condition of our program and it's players talent level and tenacity - kudos guys !!

Big picture -- Big picture !

GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[cgvr]

That was some brilliant analysis of Kelly's playcalling."the calls Kelly made in the passing game,contributed to Kizer's inaccuracy???????? Let's see if you can comprehend this--- The qb gets a playcall,and then its his job to throw to the receiver!! Got it?? The hc.oc,or qb coaches can't go out there and make the throw! You can disagree about the call,but the qb is responsible for putting the ball where it belongs. Also,if Kelly had given up on the run game as you suggested he should have, then it's"he gave up on the run and threw it all over the place". I'm just sorry you weren't coaching the team that night,since you obviously have more coaching knowledge than Kelly and his 25 year career!

Pre- game, in light of the weather forecasts, it was suggested by me and other posters that we should take advantage of our speed underneath with short routes/shots. That turned out to be the successful "formula" deployed in the 4th quarter.

Lastly, on numerous occasions our "play calling" is a chinese fire drill that results in a timeout or some other unforced error....

 

[cgvr]

Actually "we" for you (Cant Get Very much Right) CGVR is a sad attempt to link yourself to a sport you were never man enough to play and a ND Football Program that wouldn't allow you to mop out the bathroom stalls. And you know it.

"We" is for sad little boys like you that gave us things like the Participation Trophy.and the ITG (Internet Tough Guy). You're
A 21st century cliché and a coward hiding behind a keyboard in your mom basement.

If you ever attempted to spew your drivel in the direction of another man face to face...the only thing we'd see is the back of your head and a trail of urine as you ran away. You are the quintessential pussy.

You calling anyone an "internet tough guy" is very funny. 'roid rage is great theater. Again, you display an inability to refute a word I wrote therefore you attempt to make things personal on an anonymous message board...too funny.

Lastly, the highest position of authority as it relates to CFB's NC game is chaired by a number of key individuals. I am certain you are very impressed with Condeleeza Rice's/others football experience. Again, you are a smoldering dope. Lastly, you have no idea about my background in anything, but keep making things up. It's quite the entertaining show of imbalance.

 

[cgvr]

You see Fl lirish what your dealing with is a very real image of yourself grabbing Can' Get Very Much Right by the throat and jacking him against a wall and deciding which part of his face your going to pummel first -- I feel your frustration .

Last nite in one of the most pathetic attempts at trying to sound analytical he said C Weis put us on the national stage --

Let's look at some facts in evaluating CVGR's dysfunction

Weis was fired from ND after going 9-15 his last two seasons and then Kansas in what arguably was the worst personnel decision in the history of american sports hired him to implode in Lawrence .
Kelly while all this was going on was going 23-1 @ Ucinn garnering Coach of the Year honors and was a blown call inthe Neb Tx game from going to the national championship game -- fast forward

Kelly was hired to coach ND and midway through his first season out of total frustration threw his whole team under the bus stating that he had not recruited this rabble and they were not competing . After Manti Teo threw a fit on twitter something must have registered and ND mysteriously started winning football games . In Kelly's third yr he goes on a 12-0 run ending the season w ND ranked #1 in the country all of this with a freshmen three star QB , for his efforts Kelly wins his second Coach of the Year award in four yrs .

Last season in spite of losing his leading receiver , CB as well as their best pass rusher to an academic scandal Kelly took his 6-0 nationally ranked team into Tallahasse vs #1 team in the country and coached and managed his team to an apparent victory that would have catapulted ND into the #1 ranking AGAIN but of course as we all know we were cheated that nite by a red neck referee from our return to the the top of the polls . Unfortunately we were then bitten by the injury bug losing half our starting defense . With all that and Golson deciding to mail it in Kelly taps Malik Zaire and we get some of our guys back on D and finish the year with an upset win over LSU gaining 150 more yds and scoring 15 more points than Alabama did vs LSU

2015 - ND starts 4-0 in spite of the fact they lose their top 2 running backs to injury and an academic issue and losing their starting QB to injury as well as their starting DT and nickel back .

In spite of all this adversity ND goes into Clemson ranked #6 in the country and due to weather related ball security issues still manages to coach his team to be in a position to win the game late in the fourth qtr but Brown, Sanders , Kizer miscue's with the football would have the Irish fall a play short .

What is tragic is that there are anonymous eunuchs who have no clue none what it is like to compete in sports and even less of a clue as to the real workings of a major college football program.They come on here and take pot shots at one of the best coaches in college football,and what are they criticizing ? A blown execution of a perfectly designed 2 pt conversion - see Corey Robinson wide open and Kizer air mailing a CYO easy 5 yd pitch and catch

In closing anyone with this back drop of information re Kelly's resume who focuses on this decision and blames him for it I have no regard nor respect for and in fact consider those fools quintessential douche bags of the lowest order .

Hope all is well with you Fl Irish let's hope for an Irish W today . Enjoy the game -- I will be back after the W to get after the negative trolls .

You are just stupid. Thanks for the laughs.
Wow, you're going to get after the negative trolls.... You mean nothing to Notre Dame.
Never have never will......

 

[deadirishpoet]

Actually "we" for you (Cant Get Very much Right) CGVR is a sad attempt to link yourself to a sport you were never man enough to play and a ND Football Program that wouldn't allow you to mop out the bathroom stalls. And you know it.

"We" is for sad little boys like you that gave us things like the Participation Trophy.and the ITG (Internet Tough Guy). You're
A 21st century cliché and a coward hiding behind a keyboard in your mom basement.

If you ever attempted to spew your drivel in the direction of another man face to face...the only thing we'd see is the back of your head and a trail of urine as you ran away. You are the quintessential pussy.

Interesting comments.

Have you served your country in a time of war?

Have you ever had another man shoot at you with all the hate and malice one can muster?

Have you EVER had to carry a dead brother and imagine his family does not know yet?

You throw words like "pussy" in regards to play football GEEZ! Grow up Peter Pan. It's just football!

 

[HDK]

Actually "we" for you (Cant Get Very much Right) CGVR is a sad attempt to link yourself to a sport you were never man enough to play and a ND Football Program that wouldn't allow you to mop out the bathroom stalls. And you know it.

"We" is for sad little boys like you that gave us things like the Participation Trophy.and the ITG (Internet Tough Guy). You're
A 21st century cliché and a coward hiding behind a keyboard in your mom basement.

If you ever attempted to spew your drivel in the direction of another man face to face...the only thing we'd see is the back of your head and a trail of urine as you ran away. You are the quintessential pussy.

That description seems to describe you perfectly. You've got a lot of anger for someone whose own football expertise is your self-described career as a high school assistant coach. This is a message board, where people vent. Some of the criticism is well thought out, some is knee-jerk reaction. We don't need you to police our thoughts. Go bully the kids you coach--who probably talk about what an asshole you are behind your back anyway.

 

[no1e]

Actually "we" for you (Cant Get Very much Right) CGVR is a sad attempt to link yourself to a sport you were never man enough to play and a ND Football Program that wouldn't allow you to mop out the bathroom stalls. And you know it.

"We" is for sad little boys like you that gave us things like the Participation Trophy.and the ITG (Internet Tough Guy). You're
A 21st century cliché and a coward hiding behind a keyboard in your mom basement.

If you ever attempted to spew your drivel in the direction of another man face to face...the only thing we'd see is the back of your head and a trail of urine as you ran away. You are the quintessential pussy.

Just curious..... where did you graduate from?

Also, you never did answer to what subject you teach at the HS you claim to coach at.

Thanks in advance.