Coach Prime recruiting and developing Travis Hunter into Badnarik winner.
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It should go to Boise St.'s RB. And I'm certain there are far better, more impactful defensive players than Travis Hunter. His claim on the Heisman would be the rarity of being a two way impact player, which could be interpreted to be deserving of the Heisman. You wouldn't give him the individual offensive or defensive player of the year award.
See what you’re doing here 😂 the media has already handed him the trophy. Should go to Jeanty
Travis Hunter IMO is the greatest player in all of CFB for 2024. He’s my vote for the Heisman.
I just want to add that a lot of players could be two way players, and put up good, even big numbers at WR, and also be good, even standout starters on defense. Like if every team in the P4 was required to have a full time two way player, you would see lots of Travis Hunters, to varying degrees of statistical success. He's not achieving this because other players try to do this, and fail, because it's just too much for them, thus making it some inconceivable achievement. It's because coaches don't want to do it, and so they don't. So it's a little illusory in that sense, IMO. Even though TH is a badass athlete and talent and can be an impact guy on both sides.
I still think old boy from Boise should win it. He's had a near historic season in terms of yards, and has carried Boise all the way to the playoffs, almost beat Oregon.
I still think old boy from Boise should win it. He's had a near historic season in terms of yards, and has carried Boise all the way to the playoffs, almost beat Oregon.
If AshtonJeanty played for Alabama he would be the winner
What I'm stating is savvyandsassier is correct, and that his post wasn't garbage
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IMO the post was garbage, like everything that poster writes.
Again. Garbage.
If you disagree, great.
Travis Hunter playing both sides is not the feat itself, it's the fact he played so many plays both ways exceptionally. The kid is truly a talented throwback!
I don't believe that's question, but I don't believe Hunter is an anomaly, I just think the mass majority of coaches don't want to risk a key position player.
Sander had nothing to lose playing him both ways and Sanders in a natural public relation figure
The Las Vegas Raiders choose at 1 right now. If I see Tom Brady I will ask him.
Say you don't have an opinion what postion he'll be drafted to play?
Shocker!
Jeunty should win it, hands down. But the popularity contest that is the heisman (more than ever before) will award the “most popular” player. Hunter is a great player, no doubt, but it’s far and away jeunty’s if we were to really give it to the player that had the best overall season. I think hunter will be a great player in the nfl but this season, jeunty was the clear choice.
Wrong. Watch the dude play. It's is obvious he's a football junkie because dude is never out of position on defense. You don't get like that unless you spend a lot of time watching film. Then he has the best instincts I've seen from a defensive back since Eric Berry from Tennessee. And lastly, he's an elite of elite athlete. When you put that all together you have a unicorn football player.
Haven't heard the name Eric Berry is quite a while, he was excellent.
I think Hunter is slightly overrated.
I think Hunter is slightly overrated.
That's totally false, other players could do what he does. They just don't. Because coaches actively prohibit it, and thus it's not a thing. I don't know why in TH's case, his career took this path or whatnot, probably because he plays for 'Coach Prime', who himself dabbled in two-way playing, heck he even did two sports. And so he indulged it and encouraged it, and the rest is history. It's funny too, because I think LSU signed a player who should do that, and I hope he does. His name is DJ Pickett. He's a DB, that's what he's going to be. But not surprisingly, he's a badass WR as well at the HS level, and could easily be a WR at the college level and quite possibly a star and a five star WR prospect. And so he should totally play both, thanks to TH reviving the tradition, which used to be commonplace, like 80 years ago or whatever. And they still do it in HS all the time, because if you have a badass talent on the team, you want to maximize his potential, and I think players like playing both ways. But coaches don't want to do it at the higher levels, and they so just stopped doing it. And it's that that makes him a unicorn.
But he is really good. Like, he was the #1 prospect in the nation, so it stands to reason that he might be better at it than most other, lesser DB/WR types, who nevertheless never attempt to do it. And if they did actively try, like I'm hoping Pickett will, it wouldn't be rare. But like I said, we don't do that anymore, and that's why football rosters are so huge.
There isn't an athlete on any of the playoff's rosters who is as twitchy as Travis Hunter is. And the kid the LSU signed is not like Hunter. Hunter already has proven on the field that he is elite at two different positions. He is a top 10 draft pick at either corner or wide out. None of us has seen that.
How many players have you heard of doing what Hunter has done the last 2 seasons?
We have different definitions of anomaly and that is ok my guy.
That's not true. You are simply declaring on your own say so that TH has some remarkable gift and nobody else could possibly match it, when the actual truth is nobody else attempts to match it. I don't know what's so threatening about that. And it doesn't take away from the achievement. It's impressive that he's a star player on both sides of the ball. But the fact remains that other players could easily do it but they just don't. And if they did, you could compare all the numerous different two way players, and then you could decide who the best of them was. You could have a special award for it. And then leave the Heisman out of it. Or at least don't award special points just for playing two ways.
How many coaches have you heard that would allow a player the opportunity the way Sanders has
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The only fact is that Travis Hunter has been an elite player on offense and defense this season. You keep saying no one else has attempted to match it. It couldn't possibly be because they don't have a player good enough to do it could it?
Let's look at ND's roster real quick. Watts a now 2 time All American came to ND as a wideout. That didn't pan out but the man put in work and became one of the best safeties in the country and turned himself into a future NFL guy. I got another 1 for you who's no longer at ND. Lorenzo Styles! It didn't work out for him at wideout and he decided to switch positions cornerback but still hasn't been able to crack the depth chart at OSU. There are several more examples of this on all the rosters of college football.
Yeah, but Watt didn't try to play both ways. He didn't want to do it, and beg the coaches to let him do it, and then they said no, but it's only because you're just not good enough, otherwise we would totally let you do it happily. They just don't let players do that, and it's not an option. Why does this mothereffin' have to be explained? Why do you insist on deeming this admittedly impressive achievement, as some superhuman, herculean feat that nobody else could ever do, even if they actively tried and wanted to which isn't the case, for the reasons I've already stated and are not controversial. Instead of just enjoying it for what it is, especially when his coach is Deion Sanders who played two ways himself, though not full time, and definitely has shown himself willing to buck coaching norms. And this would not have happened if he had gone to Bama, let's say. Or anywhere. Even though he could have theoretically played both ways at any school, if the coaches allowed it and encouraged it like 'Prime' did.
Anyway, I think we've argued enough on this. I cut through the hype with my typically trenchant commentary, even though it's not a terribly astute comment. It's just true, that's all it is. Other players could definitely do it too, but they don't, essentially because players are not allowed to. And coaches don't approve it. So just a little perspective is all.
Congrats to Travis Hunter! Nice to see someone who plays defense get it for a change. Question I have is... does he play one side or both at the next level???
