F+ shouldn't be judged by individual match ups week to week. But rather how well the system does on aggregate vs the spread in every game from week to weekWhy watch the game? Baylor will win easily. F+ is always right.
If he doesn't get CTE first from the beatings hes sustaining trying to stay in the pocket in this Colorado offenseSanders CU-QB is a legit top QB talent. He's having a really good game.
And they'd still beat the brakes off of all non TAMU teams ND has played on their schedule so far.They're still Baylor.
They will win 5 or 6 games this year. And after after Qb leaves this year, they are screwedNOW THAT is what you call an ascending football program.
Just 2 seasons ago this was literally one of the very worst teams in college football and they just knocked off a legit top 50 team in F+.
They couldn't beat the breaks off North Dakota state....And they'd still beat the brakes off of all non TAMU teams ND has played on their schedule so far.
With the hype/media circus/ratings/sellouts surrounding coach Prime, and with the development of his son into a first round QB talent, and with all of the WRs they attract there, it wont be long before they have a top prospect/elite transfer at the position.They will win 5 or 6 games this year. And after after Qb leaves this year, they are screwed
And Northern Illinois is Northern Illinois.They're still Baylor.
Yes it will. They recruit terribly. And they have no one on the roster behind him that's any good. They are in trouble next year. I'm not sure Deion will be there. He knows what's coming.With the hype/media circus/ratings/sellouts surrounding coach Prime, and with the development of his son into a first round QB talent, and with all of the WRs they attract there, it wont be long before they have a top prospect/elite transfer at the position.
Why are you such a hater on Deion Sanders?Yes it will. They recruit terribly. And they have no one on the roster behind him that's any good. They are in trouble next year. I'm not sure Deion will be there. He knows what's coming.
Winning 4 and 6 games with 2 fist rounders. They won't be able to get anyone as good as those 2. He's lucky he has his son
If Colorado has a good season, coach prime will probably be extended or at least leverage his fast turnaround of the Colorado football program into a better job elsewhere.Yes it will. They recruit terribly. And they have no one on the roster behind him that's any good. They are in trouble next year. I'm not sure Deion will be there. He knows what's coming.
Winning 4 and 6 games with 2 fist rounders. They won't be able to get anyone as good as those 2. He's lucky he has his son
Like N Dakota State? Or CSU?And they'd still beat the brakes off of all non TAMU teams ND has played on their schedule so far.
I'm not. I'm just being honestWhy are you such a hater on Deion Sanders?
He's not attracting any high school Qbs and there won't be a qb in the portal nearly as good as his son.If Colorado has a good season, coach prime will probably be extended or at least leverage his fast turnaround of the Colorado football program into a better job elsewhere.
But if he stays he'll attract top QB talent there especially with a good season that he can sell as "ascending program" on the recruiting trail.
I also think Coach Prime is using an entirely different approach to his roster building (HEAVY use of the transfer portal, mixed in with elite prospects on the recruiting trail). His program at HBCU was similar, they had a bunch of FBS castoffs/imports on their roster there, who turned their careers around quickly. I think he's doing the same thing at Colorado. I think coach Prime prefers a roster full of veteran players that can get wins NOW compared to commitment of developing 18 year olds over 4 years.
Despite the ho-hum recruiting (which could be by strategy), Coach Prime has improved the overall talent on the roster in team talent composite from 80s in 2022 to 35 in 2023 to 31 in 2024 because of the talent they've gotten in the transfer portal.
I think a team that is tenured in their scheme/system/program is better equipped to win football games than a team mashed together with total randomness. So in year 1, i think you take the talent improvement win at Colorado, but not necessarily hold the program up to competing to the level of its talent in a year 1.He's not attracting any high school Qbs and there won't be a qb in the portal nearly as good as his son.
If you are going by his roster talent, wouldn't you then agree going 4 and 8 with the 35th most talented roster was a bad coaching job?
So his talent is now at 31. What is an acceptable season for you? What would be a bad yearI think a team that is tenured in their scheme/system/program is better equipped to win football games than a team mashed together with total randomness. So in year 1, i think you take the talent improvement win at Colorado, but not necessarily hold the program up to competing to the level of its talent in a year 1.
I also think you gotta give Coach Prime a little leash to adjust to the P4 level. He's literally in only year 2 at the highest level of college football. His previous coaching career was at youth level to HBCU level. He's also learning on the job and its unclear what his potential as a HC is.
I think you evaluate coach prime like you would any other head coachSo his talent is now at 31. What is an acceptable season for you? What would be a bad year
Agree. Why some people have such a hate fest on Deion is odd.Credit where credit is due. Colorado is not a great team, but they are 3-1 at the moment. I figured they'd lose this one.
So 6 and 6 in year 2 with 31 overall talent and 2 top 10 nfl draft picks.... that's ascending. We agree to disagree. Because he's not going to get a better duo than these 2 at ColoradoI think you evaluate coach prime like you would any other head coach
Is there progress from year 1, to year 2, to year 3, etc. ?
I thought he might be able to coach Colorado to a bowl game last season, but that was probably not realistic. He improved the program from 1 win in 2022, to 4 wins in 2023. I think a bowl game (6 win season or better) would be a good sign that the program is ascending.
I think the talent is much closer aligned once you get past the top 20ish teams or so .. there's not a whole lot of separation between prospects that are ranked in the 2-3-(low 4 star) range (nor is there much separation between the teams ranked in the 30s/40s/50s etc.) so the correlation between talent rankings and performance rankings (F+) starts to get more skewed in the mid range of teams in college football.So 6 and 6 in year 2 with 31 overall talent and 2 top 10 nfl draft picks.... that's ascending. We agree to disagree. Because he's not going to get a better duo than these 2 at Colorado
Let me expand on my point some more:I think the talent is much closer aligned once you get past the top 20ish teams or so .. there's not a whole lot of separation between prospects that are ranked in the 2-3-(low 4 star) range (nor is there much separation between the teams ranked in the 30s/40s/50s etc.) so the correlation between talent rankings and performance rankings (F+) starts to get more skewed in the mid range of teams in college football.
In my opinion, the ways in which you would evaluate a blue blood at the highest levels of the sport is different than how you would evaluate a low-tier P4 team.
I also forgot to mention, re: deion sanders sonHe's not attracting any high school Qbs and there won't be a qb in the portal nearly as good as his son.
If you are going by his roster talent, wouldn't you then agree going 4 and 8 with the 35th most talented roster was a bad coaching job?
Beats losing at home to Northern IllinoisGreat win tonight at home Vs Baylor and their 3rd string QB.
Baylor LOST this gameWhat a meltdown from Baylor. They missed a FG that would've won it, gave up the hail Mary, and then fumbled in OT at the goaline.
Deion's kid made a good Hail Mary throw but the Baylor defense played that terribly. They got caught watching the ball when they should've shifted toward that side of the end zone when Sanders was flushed out of the pocket. I was impressed the throw went as far as it was as I didn't think he had enough time to throw. Baylor made the right call to blitz but the safeties didn't do a good job on their end.
Colorado's fans rushing the field for beating a mediocre team is why they are hated so much. It's like when they rushes the field after beating Colorado State last year.