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Marcus Freeman has become a Catholic. I thought this was an amazing bit of news. Jeez I hope this guy is successful. He has done everything right. While I and many of you don’t care what faith our head coach is, nevertheless it is a statement by him. A statement to become the same faith as his wife and children and the educational institution he represents.
I told my wife this and her comment was “He needs all the help he can get and having God can’t hurt”
 
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Are you kidding me? Is this is a joke??

If this is true, then the countdown on MF's demise at ND has unofficially begun. And nothing more needs to said.....
 
Yep, it's true....he started his conversion to Catholicism when he got to South Bend.
 
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DieHard_Irish said:
What does this mean??
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You're not really asking me this question. You claim to be a ND graduate, and thus no matter how stupid you might actually be, you can't possibly be so stupid that you would actually ask such a question in earnest. Human beings are not capable of being that naive....

ND's brand new coach, already brutally exposed as being in over his head and very possibly/probably won't last long as football coach at ND, the world's most famous Catholic university, and pundits and bloggers are already contemplating the scenarios of when he might ultimately be fired, including possibly with a few months time if things go poorly enough... Then, seemingly out of nowhere, HE ACTUALLY JOINS THE DAMN CATHOLIC CHURCH.... and you're asking me why....

I guess perhaps the way you see it, and naturally this wouldn't be lost on MF either, this might actually increase his job security! Right??? How you could not see this as anything other than a horribly ominous sign with regard to MF's future at ND, would be beyond me...
 
motkaboo said:
Yep, it's true....he started his conversion to Catholicism when he got to South Bend.
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Good god, this whole story just keeps getting worse and worse.... The MF saga, and I'm really starting to lose sympathy for the guy. He's like a effin' child or something. I don't mean he has boyish enthusiasm or some shit. No, he's like an actual child. No wonder we suck so bad.....
 
savvyandsassier said:
Good god, this whole story just keeps getting worse and worse.... The MF saga, and I'm really starting to lose sympathy for the guy. He's like a effin' child or something. I don't mean he has boyish enthusiasm or some shit. No, he's like an actual child. No wonder we suck so bad.....
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Becoming Catholic doesn't make him act like a child. It makes him act like a real man that supports his wife and children who are already part of the faith.
 
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Good god, this whole story just keeps getting worse and worse.... The MF saga, and I'm really starting to lose sympathy for the guy. He's like a effin' child or something. I don't mean he has boyish enthusiasm or some shit. No, he's like an actual child. No wonder we suck so bad.....
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Incredibly we find ourselves on the same side of an issue, WTH! Most everyday Catholics know very little of the behind the scenes history or biz of the R.C Church. Revelations to come.
 
hvillebill said:
Becoming Catholic doesn't make him act like a child. It makes him act like a real man that supports his wife and children who are already part of the faith.
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I honestly don't know how to respond, other than maybe to say that something like this is sort of a liquid perfect illustration of what 'ominous' means. And I don't just mean whether or not ND football is going to suck or not, which it probably will. This is almost like end of the world ominous. Like, a genuine portent of millenarian times ahead of us.

ND, who already had a catholic coach in BK, who was totally hated by the ND cult, and he's replaced by MF, who appears to be so desperate to stay on the good side of this genuinely vicious and vindictive fanbase, actually becoming a practicing Catholic.

Is ND even really even Catholic anymore? Any overly religious ND grads I've encountered despise the pope, and would probably like to see him overthrown in some sort of curia-coup. The university is home to far right-wing cults, legit cults like something Dan Brown would come up with, like the one that produced our latest Supreme Court justice, which I don't believe are officially sanctioned by Rome. I feel like the only thing keeping ND from breaking away entirely is that it would tarnish the brand. They need Roman Catholicism, and all the brand recognition and gravitas that it brings, or else they're just some rogue institution. But they're quite capable of otherwise going it alone, and probably would rather have it that way....
 
savvyandsassier said:
I honestly don't know how to respond, other than maybe to say that something like this is sort of a liquid perfect illustration of what 'ominous' means. And I don't just mean whether or not ND football is going to suck or not, which it probably will. This is almost like end of the world ominous. Like, a genuine portent of millenarian times ahead of us.

ND, who already had a catholic coach in BK, who was totally hated by the ND cult, and he's replaced by MF, who appears to be so desperate to stay on the good side of this genuinely vicious and vindictive fanbase, actually becoming a practicing Catholic.

Is ND even really even Catholic anymore? Any overly religious ND grads I've encountered despise the pope, and would probably like to see him overthrown in some sort of curia-coup. The university is home to far right-wing cults, legit cults like something Dan Brown would come up with, like the one that produced our latest Supreme Court justice, which I don't believe are officially sanctioned by Rome. I feel like the only thing keeping ND from breaking away entirely is that it would tarnish the brand. They need Roman Catholicism, and all the brand recognition and gravitas that it brings, or else they're just some rogue institution. But they're quite capable of otherwise going it alone, and probably would rather have it that way....
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Well, I have no idea how to respond to you either.

As was stated earlier, MF began this process when he got to SB. He didn't just lose a few games and decide to do that to save his job. If you're familiar with the process it takes some time. If you're a Catholic then you've heard of the RCIF program.

It appears to me that you're just grasping at anything to find fault with the guy.

Why don't you just let him live his life outside football as he wishes?
 
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hvillebill said:
Well, I have no idea how to respond to you either.

As was stated earlier, MF began this process when he got to SB. He didn't just lose a few games and decide to do that to save his job. If you're familiar with the process it takes some time. If you're a Catholic then you've heard of the RCIF program.

It appears to me that you're just grasping at anything to find fault with the guy.

Why don't you just let him live his life outside football as he wishes?
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I'm not. I like MF, everybody likes him. But color me unimpressed.
 
savvyandsassier said:
You're not really asking me this question. You claim to be a ND graduate, and thus no matter how stupid you might actually be, you can't possibly be so stupid that you would actually ask such a question in earnest. Human beings are not capable of being that naive....

ND's brand new coach, already brutally exposed as being in over his head and very possibly/probably won't last long as football coach at ND, the world's most famous Catholic university, and pundits and bloggers are already contemplating the scenarios of when he might ultimately be fired, including possibly with a few months time if things go poorly enough... Then, seemingly out of nowhere, HE ACTUALLY JOINS THE DAMN CATHOLIC CHURCH.... and you're asking me why....

I guess perhaps the way you see it, and naturally this wouldn't be lost on MF either, this might actually increase his job security! Right??? How you could not see this as anything other than a horribly ominous sign with regard to MF's future at ND, would be beyond me...
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First I don't "claim" anything. But that aside, I got exactly what I expected from you. More useless drivel. Thanks for playing.
 
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Well, I have no idea how to respond to you either.

As was stated earlier, MF began this process when he got to SB. He didn't just lose a few games and decide to do that to save his job. If you're familiar with the process it takes some time. If you're a Catholic then you've heard of the RCIF program.

It appears to me that you're just grasping at anything to find fault with the guy.

Why don't you just let him live his life outside football as he wishes?
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I'll tell you why he won't. Because he's a clueless, mindless asshole. Sorry to be so direct, but it was warranted. I mean can you even imagine someone being so stupid as to accuse MF of converting to save a job? You gotta be a complete zero to even think that way.
 
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DieHard_Irish said:
I'll tell you why he won't. Because he's a clueless, mindless asshole. Sorry to be so direct, but it was warranted. I mean can you even imagine someone being so stupid as to accuse MF of converting to save a job? You gotta be a complete zero to even think that way.
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I'd have more respect for the dude if that's why he converted. WAY more. In fact, it's out of respect for MF that I will assume that that is in fact why he has decided to become Roman Catholic and get baptized and all that shit as a grown-ass man. We'll just say it's because he wanted to fit in, since you're so squeamish about it. And unless you got some sort of absolute proof that says otherwise, I will assume that that's actually why he did it....

Either way, IMO, it's a very bad sign that the new and overmatched HC at ND has actually formally become a full-blown Roman Catholic. Whatever random denomination he was before this would have been just fine....
 
savvyandsassier said:
I'd have more respect for the dude if that's why he converted. WAY more. In fact, it's out of respect for MF that I will assume that that is in fact why he has decided to become Roman Catholic and get baptized and all that shit as a grown-ass man. We'll just say it's because he wanted to fit in, since you're so squeamish about it. And unless you got some sort of absolute proof that says otherwise, I will assume that that's actually why he did it....

Either way, IMO, it's a very bad sign that the new and overmatched HC at ND has actually formally become a full-blown Roman Catholic. Whatever random denomination he was before this would have been just fine....
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“All that shit” ?

You’re disgraceful, a total loser and a pathetic excuse for a human being.

The man decides to become a Catholic and you mock him, his choice and his religion.

And then you attribute his motivation to your own twisted and delusional reasons.

You’re a disgusting low life !
 
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I'd have more respect for the dude if that's why he converted. WAY more. In fact, it's out of respect for MF that I will assume that that is in fact why he has decided to become Roman Catholic and get baptized and all that shit as a grown-ass man. We'll just say it's because he wanted to fit in, since you're so squeamish about it. And unless you got some sort of absolute proof that says otherwise, I will assume that that's actually why he did it....

Either way, IMO, it's a very bad sign that the new and overmatched HC at ND has actually formally become a full-blown Roman Catholic. Whatever random denomination he was before this would have been just fine....
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You get to know God 1st; then you can find a church later (maybe). Sound doctrine is not easy to find in the major churches; Catholic or non-Catholic. Among believers, it is a topic discussed constantly.
 
theskibro said:
Marcus Freeman has become a Catholic. I thought this was an amazing bit of news. Jeez I hope this guy is successful. He has done everything right. While I and many of you don’t care what faith our head coach is, nevertheless it is a statement by him. A statement to become the same faith as his wife and children and the educational institution he represents.
I told my wife this and her comment was “He needs all the help he can get and having God can’t hurt”
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Amazing 🤔
 
d1042 said:
You get to know God 1st; then you can find a church later (maybe). Sound doctrine is not easy to find in the major churches; Catholic or non-Catholic. Among believers, it is a topic discussed constantly.
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Oh, is that how it works? Figures....
 
Swarbrick is an idiot. Freeman is a good dude but has no business being the head coach. He should be the Duke HC.
 
savvyandsassier said:
I honestly don't know how to respond, other than maybe to say that something like this is sort of a liquid perfect illustration of what 'ominous' means. And I don't just mean whether or not ND football is going to suck or not, which it probably will. This is almost like end of the world ominous. Like, a genuine portent of millenarian times ahead of us.

ND, who already had a catholic coach in BK, who was totally hated by the ND cult, and he's replaced by MF, who appears to be so desperate to stay on the good side of this genuinely vicious and vindictive fanbase, actually becoming a practicing Catholic.

Is ND even really even Catholic anymore? Any overly religious ND grads I've encountered despise the pope, and would probably like to see him overthrown in some sort of curia-coup. The university is home to far right-wing cults, legit cults like something Dan Brown would come up with, like the one that produced our latest Supreme Court justice, which I don't believe are officially sanctioned by Rome. I feel like the only thing keeping ND from breaking away entirely is that it would tarnish the brand. They need Roman Catholicism, and all the brand recognition and gravitas that it brings, or else they're just some rogue institution. But they're quite capable of otherwise going it alone, and probably would rather have it that way....
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I really state something like this … but you’re a damn idiot to think he became Catholic to save his job. He started to convert way before he became HC .
 
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“All that shit” ?

You’re disgraceful, a total loser and a pathetic excuse for a human being.

The man decides to become a Catholic and you mock him, his choice and his religion.

And then you attribute his motivation to your own twisted and delusional reasons.

You’re a disgusting low life !
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Well said!!!
 
jbm19 said:
I really state something like this … but you’re a damn idiot to think he became Catholic to save his job. He started to convert way before he became HC .
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I suppose not, but the timing just couldn't be any worse.

And so are you some authority on this particular little spiritual journey of his? You have access to his personal diaries?

I guess this would help explain his now even more questionable decision to force the team to go to church on gamdeays. One, we haven't won a game since... And two, since he's all hot to trot to go to mass himself, now that he's a catholic.... so now he's going to force the entire team to do it? That's even worse than simply pandering to the fans....
 
I am really pulling for this guy. Great character and obviously a great moral base. I dont see how his decision to become catholic has anything to do with his ‘coming demise’. I see it as him feeling close to God and experiencing that special sensation that the notre dame campus exhibits in so many.

Now to coaching. He is in an unexpected deep hole after 3 games. While the outlook looks very bad, consider 1. Oklahoma st was technically a sit in game. He had no time to put his system in place. 2. Ohio state. They were down 4 with 4 minutes left in the game. Hardly a horrible game unless ohio state sucks. 3. Marshall was a major letdown. You can expect let down games after a big game. Holtz lost to bc in ‘93, kelly should have lost to toledo last year and they were a hair from the playoff still. The california game should tell the tale of season and where they are ultimately headed.

i do think rees needs to be replaced, and sooner than later. Marcus needs to be a boss. I was never impressed with rees as a player or a coach. HH has been a conveyor belt to the nfl. Not sure whats up there - maybe his system is taking time for the team to adapt to. D is ok, but not as good as last year. New coach, need time for adjustments maybe?
 
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Maybe now Freeman will get more oomph out of lighting candles for ND's offense.

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This is all just incredibly classic. This whole situation is already a budding disaster just on the football field. And on top of that, our new totally wet behind the ears young and naive coach who very clearly should not have been hired for this top job, without any doubt at this point..... We're only two weeks into the MF regime, and all pundits and bloggers everywhere are panicking and fearing the worst, both in the ND media and the national media....

And this dude is actually formally becoming an official roman catholic right now.... Mid-season.... Getting baptized while Rome burns? Is that an acceptable pun??

Good grief, is all there is to say.....
 
savvyandsassier said:
This is all just incredibly classic. This whole situation is already a budding disaster just on the football field. And on top of that, our new totally wet behind the ears young and naive coach who very clearly should not have been hired for this top job, without any doubt at this point..... We're only two weeks into the MF regime, and all pundits and bloggers everywhere are panicking and fearing the worst, both in the ND media and the national media....

And this dude is actually formally becoming an official roman catholic. Mid-season.... Getting baptized while Rome burns? Is that an acceptable pun??

Good grief, is all there is to say.....
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Maybe that will bring him closer to a ‘Miracle’. Moses did part the red sea! Offense will similarly open huge holes in CA’s d this weekend! (If TR is not making the calls)

Nothing wrong with becoming Catholic!
 
kmass said:
Maybe that will bring him closer to a ‘Miracle’. Moses did part the red sea! Offense will similarly open huge holes in CA’s d this weekend! (If TR is not making the calls)

Nothing wrong with becoming Catholic!
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I guess there isn't. If you're going to do it then you gotta do it....

In all seriousness though, this would have been way better to have quietly taken care of in the offseason. I would say it borders on unprofessional. But I'm not sure what the best practices are, as to publicly and piously converting to a new religion right in the middle of the football season when you're the HC at a famously catholic school.....
 
savvyandsassier said:
This is all just incredibly classic. This whole situation is already a budding disaster just on the football field. And on top of that, our new totally wet behind the ears young and naive coach who very clearly should not have been hired for this top job, without any doubt at this point..... We're only two weeks into the MF regime, and all pundits and bloggers everywhere are panicking and fearing the worst, both in the ND media and the national media....

And this dude is actually formally becoming an official roman catholic right now.... Mid-season.... Getting baptized while Rome burns? Is that an acceptable pun??

Good grief, is all there is to say.....
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I've got news for you. Football may be important to Notre Dame , but ND is not a Football Factory. If that's what you want, there are plenty of SEC teams you can follow.
 
savvyandsassier said:
I'd have more respect for the dude if that's why he converted. WAY more. In fact, it's out of respect for MF that I will assume that that is in fact why he has decided to become Roman Catholic and get baptized and all that shit as a grown-ass man. We'll just say it's because he wanted to fit in, since you're so squeamish about it. And unless you got some sort of absolute proof that says otherwise, I will assume that that's actually why he did it....

Either way, IMO, it's a very bad sign that the new and overmatched HC at ND has actually formally become a full-blown Roman Catholic. Whatever random denomination he was before this would have been just fine....
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You’ve lost your GD composure
 
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