Seems his recruiting "mojo" is starting to bear fruit....yes? We need a rep like Harry's.......on the DL!!!
All Irish baby!!!
All Irish baby!!!
Coach Gilmore
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BGI...Thought Gilmore was an important hire at the time. We don't talk a lot about it after the fact, but he did a great job recruiting our three incoming freshmen DEs; and I agree, his recruiting chops are showing this year even more so.
hope you are right! front 7 needs an impact recruitor.
added Ewell today! good DT pickup. composite .9364
added Ewell today! good DT pickup. composite .9364
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Add that to his player development skills. Great hire by BK.
Add that to Hayes and Kareem who were both 93+ last year and Okwara who was right around a 90. Add a pair of 93+ DE's in the cycle and the DL is building towards a top end group.
adding the complimentary DE's is the key. If ND can snag a couple of guys and put togeter 2 seasons of excellence on the DL then continued recruiting the positions will be easier. Success brings success.
Ive said since day 1 that the Gilmore hire would be the best thing for this defense. Everyone harps on BVG but needs to remember that the dline coach is fairly new at ND, just like the secondary coach. Gilmore built a foundation last year with good players and has followed up this year with good players. He's going to take a swing at some 5 star des this year, but we might still be a year away from luring the real difference makers. When his guys develop ND will be very stout up front. I do still have some questions regarding scheme and secondary coaching, but Gilmore is phenomenal at locating and developing talent. heres to hoping the solid recruiting leads to a serious pass rushing de noticing the opportunity that exists over the next three years.
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
Jarron Jones is a Monster ! And a field goal blocking machine !
I really hope he stays healthy. I bet Gilmore is really excited about the Dline this year !
A Monster !! AllAmerican this year !!
I really hope he stays healthy. I bet Gilmore is really excited about the Dline this year !
A Monster !! AllAmerican this year !!
Agree Bodi, but the one I am most curious about is Tillery. Not sure he has the level of dedication and singular focus needed to be great, but seems to have that potential. Interesting young man with many interests outside of football.
We can't pressure the qb which stresses our secondary..... Get back to me on the sack totals under uncle rico.Jarron Jones is a Monster ! And a field goal blocking machine !
I really hope he stays healthy. I bet Gilmore is really excited about the Dline this year !
A Monster !! AllAmerican this year !!
PS I do like Jones and Tillery, but the dc and hc both stink.
^ when you say you like...but because "
what are your expectations; sunshine pumping idiotic predictions aside, ND is getting players just below the top 8ish teams. Not all ND fans are oblivious to the reality that the other teams recruit also! ND is good enough in '16 to get to 10 W's. MSU, Stanford and USC are the top teams on the schedule and if ND beats 1 of them that get 9-10 W's; 2 W's gets a top tier bowl. If one has realistic expectations then you won't be disappointed.
what are your expectations; sunshine pumping idiotic predictions aside, ND is getting players just below the top 8ish teams. Not all ND fans are oblivious to the reality that the other teams recruit also! ND is good enough in '16 to get to 10 W's. MSU, Stanford and USC are the top teams on the schedule and if ND beats 1 of them that get 9-10 W's; 2 W's gets a top tier bowl. If one has realistic expectations then you won't be disappointed.
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
His main interest better be football or else Cage and Mountain Dew Treadway will take all of his snaps and get all the girls !!
I have been reading where Cage and Mountain Dew are the real deal. Mokwua and Tiassum are far behind.
We lost major pieces on D to the NFL. Our signal caller on D was a walk on due to the indecipherable scheme. bvg is a major problem. I am hoping that Lyght and Burris rein him in. Adding those NFL legends and former first round NFL picks is a big plus. In addition, Burris knows a thing or 2 about depth chart engineering. I am expecting a better jumbo package.
You continue to demonstrate stupidity. Sack totals are the most irrelevant Stat in football. Pressures are what coaches seek.
We were #114 in fumbles gained.
We were #92 in int. gained.
We were #110 in total int and fumbles gained.
That's some pressure especially when you combine it with sacks....
If you think the hc stinks, your idea of a good hc is extremely limited, maybe 10-15 max.
what perplexes me on your call to 'get a new head coach', is it sets the program back into a restaff, re-recruit, re-teach, re establish relationship mode. At ND that process takes 4-5 years; this is not the same situation as Meyer or Harbaugh came into where they could restructure without institutional restraints.
So you idea to improve the program is first destroy it then try to gamble that the new guy can get the program - to about where it is today!
ND is not going to get much closer to the Top Tier 6 unless the NCAA enforces rules, and 'fringe' benefits are eliminated in recruiting. A staggering stat, posted on TOS, that should shock fans into reality: 5*' signees since 2014: Bama 18 ND 1. Even if not exact the stat is close enough in proportion to indicate that the problems are more about getting enough elite players than it is the head coach! There are no magic plays or schemes to overcome such a discrepancy in roster talent!
Consider when you were a youth, if you were in the playground and chosing BB teams and the best player and the worst player were the capts. the best player then gets the next 4 choices and the rest went to the other side.
Who do you think will win a preponderance of the time?
What is going on in college football is a bit like that. For ND this is not a coach problem.
So you idea to improve the program is first destroy it then try to gamble that the new guy can get the program - to about where it is today!
ND is not going to get much closer to the Top Tier 6 unless the NCAA enforces rules, and 'fringe' benefits are eliminated in recruiting. A staggering stat, posted on TOS, that should shock fans into reality: 5*' signees since 2014: Bama 18 ND 1. Even if not exact the stat is close enough in proportion to indicate that the problems are more about getting enough elite players than it is the head coach! There are no magic plays or schemes to overcome such a discrepancy in roster talent!
Consider when you were a youth, if you were in the playground and chosing BB teams and the best player and the worst player were the capts. the best player then gets the next 4 choices and the rest went to the other side.
Who do you think will win a preponderance of the time?
What is going on in college football is a bit like that. For ND this is not a coach problem.
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Kelly is in it for the long haul. For the first time in decades we have a hc taking an institution building approach. Davie didn't need too because ND still had some shine to recruits when he took over. By the time Ty took over ND still had some talent but had lost a lot of it's recruiting appeal. Ty coupled that with uninspired coaching and recruiting. By the time Charlie took over all shine was gone. He also had a revolving door of defensive coaching which destroyed defensive recruiting. Constant changes to scheme and coaches made ND extremely unappealing to defensive recruits. Like him or not coach Kelly has established a very sound defensive identity (since moving to the 4-3). He has coaches on the d side of the ball that recruits are listening to and that coach within bvg's system. Changing HC would have huge consequences to recruiting unless we got a huge coach... ex) urban or saban and they aren't interested. NFL coaches with no college experience ie dungy or gruden are not going to help recruiting. I like seeing ND built from the ground up and love the coaching changing Kelly has had to make. Gilmore and Sanford are studs.
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Agreed, in more muted tones! I would not discount the "Studliness" of Lyght , Denson, And Hiestand either! [smile]
There are various ways to get pressure on the quarterback. Although edge pressure is the first thing that comes to mind for most part, ND's 2016 team will be better suited to pressure up the middle of the defens.. Much of that starts with Jarron Jones and his health / workload capacity. Go back to 2014 and there we're tines when he was flat out unstoppable and collapsed the pocket all game long. I think the ND defense will build off of his return and focus on their inside pressures. Expect to see Isaac Rochell down at 3 tech quite a bit this season, especially on passing Downs when ND chooses to stay in their base rather than go to Nickel. Jones and Rochell will make teams work hard on the inside and will open up lanes for the likes of Morgan, Onwualu and Tranquill to zone-blitz the middle of the pocket and force QB's to move their feet to get out of trouble. ND is facing a lot of new QB's in 2016 and the last thing young QB's like to do is move their feet and feel uncomfortable in the pocket.
People keep asking where the pressures are going to come from . Here is my prediction. I don't have any delusions of this being a top defense, however, I do think they're going to be a more timely defense and get off the field more often... I doubt any ND defender has more than 6-7 sacks in 2016, but I have several at 4+.
People keep asking where the pressures are going to come from . Here is my prediction. I don't have any delusions of this being a top defense, however, I do think they're going to be a more timely defense and get off the field more often... I doubt any ND defender has more than 6-7 sacks in 2016, but I have several at 4+.
Let me repeat it so it might permeate your concrete block of a head. Sacks are irrelevant. It is QB pressures that defensive coaches want.
Notre Dame, coach Brian Kelly agree to 6-year contract extension
Let me make this easy for you. Would you rather have a "pressure" or a sack?
Lastly, here's how we dialed up pressure at a most critical time. Please note Okwara's assignment....
Feel free to contact Mario Williams agent/banker with your thoughts......
ah, more low hanging fruit. your knowledge of football can be be etched on a pin head.
I'm not buying that at all. In addition, you and everyone else on this board has failed to explain the discrepancy in our results versus Stanford. Right now they have stolen our smash mouth, physical, historical blue print and are enjoying an extremely high and consistent level of major bowl and ranking success. They have an identity. We have none. Our recruiting dwarfs their efforts. "this is not a coach problem." It certainly is....
'bama is who they have always been when at the top... a bunch of meatheads that can be taken down.
Right now arguably one of the worst coaches in CFB history "el fatso" was within a bush push of NC consideration. southern cal then had an epic collapse versus Texas when Young displayed perhaps the greatest 6 minutes in NC game history. The morbidly obese one also had a 40% appearance rate in major bowls. Mr Potato Head is now at 33%.
Recruiting is helped by winning big games. The purple gnome has dialed up some gems...Oklahoma, fsu/loss... come to mind.... He lacks consistency. He lacks coolness under fire. He lacks leadership.... among other things...
Can he evolve... one can only hope...
Winning statement games helps recruiting. A big Bowl win would be a start.... Music city... pathetic...
The tell tale sign will be to watch the turnover situation. If the defense is getting pressure, that usually translates into turnovers or takeaways, whichever you prefer to call it.
Keeping Rochelle, JT, and Jones, as well as Cage healthy is the defensive key to the season. After those 4 there is a significant drop off.
A thought about D Hayes: he comes in in great shape at around 238, but at that weight he might start as an OLB or RS.
He can still rush the passer from the OLB spot but to play DE at that weight might make him a target for opponents run attacks. If he is a contributor that is huge.
Keeping Rochelle, JT, and Jones, as well as Cage healthy is the defensive key to the season. After those 4 there is a significant drop off.
A thought about D Hayes: he comes in in great shape at around 238, but at that weight he might start as an OLB or RS.
He can still rush the passer from the OLB spot but to play DE at that weight might make him a target for opponents run attacks. If he is a contributor that is huge.
replacing the established head cosch of 7 years, an excellent staff, hiring a new coach to entirely restablish a style, relationships etc etc etc etc is an insane proposition; especially when all the pieces all set in place for a successful Top 15 season and with things breaking "Irish", possible greater success.
The floor looks lime 9W's and 10/11 are not outlandish possibilities.
Why in the world would you turn your back on that potential?
The floor looks lime 9W's and 10/11 are not outlandish possibilities.
Why in the world would you turn your back on that potential?
kelly will never run smash mouth football. get over it. for the millionth time, major bowls are dead as far as relevance goes.. if you don't make the 4 team playoff the others don't matter. football NIT. i'd say the quality of opponent is much more important than the so called "major bowl". poo-poo the music city bowl all you'd like but it was a win over a quality opponent.
Mario Williams blows. Overrated and that is why he has been sought out by crappy teams like Bills and Dolphins.
Still waiting for the "jumbo package"? Dumbo waiting on jumbo. You have a better chance of seeing the single wing from Kelly.
Notre Dame, coach Brian Kelly agree to new deal through 2021
Notre Dame announced a new six-year deal for coach Brian Kelly.
I like Daelin Hayes as a 15 snap per game situational pass rusher in his freshman yea,, much like what they did with Kolin Hill. Fortunatel,, Hayes is a substantially better player than Hill and his athletiscm and versatility will allow ND to "bring him" from all over the field . 4-5 sacks and several other key pressures is certainly realistic.
I think you can figure it out. It's the one you and pennick are obviously avoiding....
https://notredame.rivals.com/news/denbrock-defines-notre-dame-football
Notre Dame's 31-28 Music City Bowl win versus LSU last December was head coach Brian Kelly's finest moment as a play caller in his five seasons with the Fighting Irish for at least three reasons:
• It was the 16th time in his 65 games Notre Dame didn't have a turnover. The Irish are 16-0 in such contests under Kelly, and 29-20 otherwise.
• Against an upper-tier defense, Notre Dame rushed for 263 yards and 5.2 yards per carry. It was able to keep the ball on the ground nearly twice more (51 plays) than pass (26 times) because it controlled the line of scrimmage.
• The passing game was efficient, with the Irish completing 18 of 26 attempts (69.2 percent) for 186 yards while using the skills of both Malik Zaire and Everett Golson at quarterback. LSU had to defend both the read option and the pass, helping spread it too thin.
An argument can be made that the game was an anomaly. With no game to play until another nine months, Notre Dame could tailor a specific game plan to LSU. Fighting Irish associate head coach Mike Denbrock disagrees.
"No, I hope it wasn't game specific," Denbrock said after Notre Dame's ninth practice this spring, prior to Easter break. "It's the way Notre Dame should play football every Saturday: Line up, physicality, leaning on the big boys up front to create space for the running backs and getting the ball in space to some skilled receivers. ... Playing sound, fundamental football. When I think of Notre Dame football, that's what I think of and that's really what we're trying to get to.
"It's a beginning. I wouldn't pigeonhole it by saying every game's going to look like the LSU game, but I would say we definitely want to enter every week and every game with the mentality that we're going to physically take the fight to our opponent and we're going to match ourselves up and see what good can come of it."
Over the past 10 years, every national champion but one rushed for more than 200 yards per contest during its march to No. 1 (as did most teams in the major bowls). In this year's final Associated Press top 10, nine of them rushed for more than 200 yards per contest, most notably national champion Ohio State with a 264.5 average. The lone exception was Florida State, who as the 2013 nation champion averaged 203.1 yards rushing per game.
What helps define "Notre Dame football" that Denbrock speaks of? One is if the running game dips under that 200 mark, the program doesn't seem quite the same. The rushing figures at Notre Dame often reveal the trajectory or success of the football program.
Is a 200-yard rushing average the elixir or silver bullet to football prosperity? By itself, no. It takes more: Defense, special teams, passing balance, coaching, recruiting to a system …
But it's not a coincidence that the pattern in the past, present and most likely in the future supports Denbrock's contention that "Notre Dame football" is much more often at its best with rushing excellence.
whats your point ? kelly has always had balance in his offenses. that said he is not gonna have the stacked I or two tights and a fullback as the foundation of his offense. i'm sorry if you can't comprehend the differences in offensive philosophies. balance is the key.
they were a quality team for sure. just because you don't think so doesn't make it so. being ranked going into a bowl game is pretty good to me.
