Clemson has an easy defensive plan against ND
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huge advantage playing in south bend gotta fix this maybe expecting to much to many distractions kids are tired pep rally walks etc just go to mass and relax can’t expect it to change if you don’t make changes this is urgent as ****
the team that played Carolina an cuse wil beat clemson all depends if Marcus fixes the culture on Gameday at nd
In the words of Mike Tyson, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth
No...
We didn't HAVE to pass against Cuse..
We WILL HAVE TO pass against Clemson. Not all but chunk plays and convert some third and longs.
Moreover...notice how we ran roughshod through Syracuse...
Still didn't matter as like I've stated many times...
Rees absolutely positively can't help himself and will pass
Rees cannot throw the ball for Pyne. The receivers were open. If the intent is for Pyne to throw just a handful of times per game (like an option QB would), then they need to install more 2 and 3 back sets. Maybe we'll see some of that against Clemson.
.....I don't think the Clemson DC is losing any sleep game planning for Drew Pyne......and ultimately that is the problem....
Bingo. All day long. It could be ugly. What an opportunity for Rees to get creative. Will he? No evidence yet.
IT looks like UNC dodges Clemson in the regular season. With an upset win Saturday we will have basically locked up wins against the two teams playing for the ACC championship.
You say as if that is a bad thing.
Should be a great chance. It will look like an away game and the Clemson crowd will be louder than the ND fans. Marcus should just tell them its an away game. It will feel like it.
I don’t think they’ll do that to start. They’ll try to stop the run with light boxes. They have more than enough good players in their front 7 to do that
This isn’t quite the same Clemson team as in the recent years past. Still, they are very good. ND just needs to come ready to play. I do think Pyne will have to make some plays in order to win. Hopefully the receivers will make a few plays as well. ND showed what they are capable of doing at Syracuse. It wasn’t flashy, but it was very effective. Solid defense most of the game and lean on a strong run game plus good special teams. That is the key to their success. Hopefully the crowd will be loud as well. We shall see.
True, this may not be the same Clemson team as years past, but they are still good, and I just don't see this ND team hanging with them. As you say, hopefully the receivers will make some plays, but hopefully, Pyne will as well. I just don't see us gashing Clemson on the ground all game long like we did against Syracuse.
Ironically, if we do have a great success running the football, it will be the first time a Harry Hiestand offensive line has dominated a top opponent.
You are not going to run down their throat. They have a top DL. You can’t be 1D in top 5 match ups. We didn’t do that against OSU. We passed and mixed in the run as well.
You get 3 and outs with run only and your D gets gassed. ND will have to go hard play action early, screens or slants. Our profile is off tackle so you better break that early.
I would get Tyree on some wheels, he is a nightmare to cover with a backer.
You get 3 and outs with run only and your D gets gassed. ND will have to go hard play action early, screens or slants. Our profile is off tackle so you better break that early.
I would get Tyree on some wheels, he is a nightmare to cover with a backer.
They don't have to load the box. The dline is so good there they can rush four and let the lbs sit back in zone and read.
If Rees and ND don't get more creative with running the ball this game could be very ugly.
Agree. They will not load the box. They will play man to man, blitz the backers to hold our backs into max protect and double Mayer. Same thing OSU did and they have the athletes to cover us.
Not going to win this game in the power I.
These games we lose the last few years as the D wears out and we try to sustain long drives against the same talent. You need some 15 yarders.
Your are going to need some quick outs and screens. Your going to need crossing.
I just don’t see it with DP. Can’t win against a top 5 team with a 50% QB. It’s not possible.
Not going to win this game in the power I.
These games we lose the last few years as the D wears out and we try to sustain long drives against the same talent. You need some 15 yarders.
Your are going to need some quick outs and screens. Your going to need crossing.
I just don’t see it with DP. Can’t win against a top 5 team with a 50% QB. It’s not possible.
Notice we had that going against Syracuse...
2 backs....
And then...
Nope...
Can't help himself...he HAS to throw the ball.
If someone said to him ...
You can beat Clemson next week but you have to run the ball every single play do you think he'd accept that offer?
No way in hell.
He's a robot and does things just to do things.
He can't help himself
Pynes gotta get rid of the ball quickly sat or he going to get eaten and we will see angeli cole in bc Pyne is getting a ct scan
"We WILL HAVE TO pass against Clemson. Not all but chunk plays and convert some third and longs"
And target receivers NOT named Mayer
Clemson's defense has been uncharacteristically vulnerable to giving up big plays this year. Unfortunately, those occasions were accompanied by offenses who could generate those big plays. ND has to run the ball....but needs to stretch Clemson's D. Maybe Angeli can come in a few times and heave it down the field?
I disagree that this is the game we lose. I actually think this is the game we've won in the past due to the fact clemson offense if far from elite.
clemson is a great, not elite team. they almost lost to cuse and wake. they are beatable and in my view, out of Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, Tennessee, and Michigan, they are the least scary team to play. the bigger issue to me is that we play them at home. notre dame is a scary opponent for clemson depending on which team shows up. notre dame is one of those unranked teams that can play with anyone if they get up for the game. nd is a dangerous team poised as a spoiler team. i think nd is the most dangerous unranked team in america. qb stinks but it was enough to route cuse and unc something i doubt clemson can do. there are not many other unranked teams that i can think of that vegas would have as a -3.5 vs clemson.
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maybe you should send your resume in to Freeman, show them how to run the offensive side of the ball l. 🤣
this is the type of team that we've beat with a good D but not the best offense. A michigan/MSU type team (when MSU was good). This isn't the clemson offense under lawrence or watson.
I'm not guaranteeing a win, but this isn't a team we have typically been steam rolled by.
Worst case this would be like the 2017 georgia team we SHOULD have beat at home.
Nah we didn't beat any top 5 teams under BK outside of Clemson without TL. Maybe this is similar to Oklahoma 12 team but outside of that, no
We've played them close but havent won these type of games.
A win against Clemson would probably be our 2nd or 3rd best win since BK and MF era. We usually lose these games
Well.... just my observation. Tyree is flexible position wise. And he's not large. He needs more lead blocking or plays in space.
I don't disagree that we can win the game by throwing < 10 times. However, that assumes multiple formations in the backfield that we have not seen to date (e.g., similar to what Holtz did several times -- like the 1996 Orange Bowl against Florida State). At this point in his coaching career, I do not see Coach Freeman doing that. In fairness to the coaching staff, it must be extremely difficult to play "3 yards and a cloud of dust" when receivers are wide open down the field.
oklahoma is a good reference, but this team is very similar to msu/um teams we have beat. They are undefeated due to somewhat easy schedule. They don't have the QB or WRs that have crushed us in the past. At least the ones playing aren't them.
This to me feels like 2018 vs UM. Both teams with strong defenses and offenses with some talent but trying to find their way.
It's really do we eliminate bonehead mistakes.
