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Do you think he will be the number 1 option at WR this season for your team?
Wouldn’t be surprised if Johnson or watts ends up being the third receiver. Also I expect Mayer and tremble to be on the field together quite a bit. Don’t see a third receiver being much of a factor this year.No. I think Kevin Austin Jr will be the #1 option. Lenzy and Skowronek will be the #2 and #3 options. In which order, I'm not sure.
IIO- what former ND WR would you compare Austin to? How good can he be?No. I think Kevin Austin Jr will be the #1 option. Lenzy and Skowronek will be the #2 and #3 options. In which order, I'm not sure.
IIO- what former ND WR would you compare Austin to? How good can he be?
I like the sound of that!Not IIO, but he is not a pure burner, so the routes heruns might be like the routes MF used to run.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Johnson or watts ends up being the third receiver. Also I expect Mayer and tremble to be on the field together quite a bit. Don’t see a third receiver being much of a factor this year.
IIO- what former ND WR would you compare Austin to? How good can he be?
No talk of keys at all? I hope he steps up and the top 4 pass catchers are Austin, keys, Lenzy, tremble.... also think it will be hard to keep Mayer off the field.
Tough to stretch the field if the QB can’t demonstrably throw an accurate long ball. Hopefully there has been some development.I am thinking that Lenzy will be used to stretch the defense a lot. Send him long to get defenders out of the area then target him when they relax. He will be the explosive option as opposed to a possession guy. In the process he will have the chance to earn more targets.
I think Rees will call more high percentage throws for guys like Austin, Tremble, Keys and Skowronek. Maybe McKinley, Watts and Johnson make some noise. Heck, Avery Davis could emerge.
Need to get Book up to 65% completion average.
Mike Floyd, Tyler Eifert, Will Fuller, Cole Kmet, Chase Claypool, Kyle Rudolph, Troy Niklas are probably happy they came here. 1st and 2nd rd draft picks.Some of these answers are funny...
Let's put it this way...he will be the number 1 receiver from a playmaking perspective.
He can't jump out of the stadium and he won't win many corner fade routes in the back of the endzone but he certainly is the biggest threat that the opposing defense will respect the most.
He's the player than can take a 6 yard crossing route and if caught in stride take it 45 yards for a score.
I can't stress to y'all enough just how much the threat of those big plays will aid an offense. Yes even our anemic offense. The key here is will BK actually utilize his thoroughbred?
The elites have no problem getting their playmakers involved immediately even as freshmen. It's what great teams do. Your best athletes don't start and play every down immediately but they sure as hell get involved with some plays immediately. Important plays and at key moments.
Bk....if and when he finally plays the material it will first be in a mop up role whilst beating some weak teams leading by 40 points.
Clemson, Bama, OSU all get their best athletes involved immediately. Perhaps they don't know the entire playbook and or assignments but it's your job as the coach to simplify certain things for them so you can enjoy the use of their athleticism.
BK doesn't believe in that on the offensive side of the ball and it really hurts playing a tough team.
Dexter was the best back we've had in a long time here. The apologists will say every excuse in the world why BK didnt play him but regardless the best player was sitting. The difference maker was spectating.
Lenzy should've been involved a lot earlier than he was. Unfortunately BK made him sit ir only play in situations where the game was already decided.
P.s.
Why would any offensive playmaker want to come here?
The answer?
They don't.
Golden Tate tooMike Floyd, Tyler Eifert, Will Fuller, Cole Kmet, Chase Claypool, Troy Niklas are probably happy they came here. 1st and 2nd rd draft picks.
Kelly didnt coach him. But I forgot Kyle RudolphGolden Tate too
No talk of keys at all? I hope he steps up and the top 4 pass catchers are Austin, keys, Lenzy, tremble.... also think it will be hard to keep Mayer off the field.
I don’t think people understand how good Mayer is. Kid is already physically able to compete, runs like a receiver, and has incredible ball skills. He will play A LOT this year.
Oh boy...again please follow along.Mike Floyd, Tyler Eifert, Will Fuller, Cole Kmet, Chase Claypool, Kyle Rudolph, Troy Niklas are probably happy they came here. 1st and 2nd rd draft picks.
Another tight end.Kelly didnt coach him. But I forgot Kyle Rudolph
Will Fuller is probably one of the best field stretchers in college football historyAnother tight end.
Another player not stretching the field.
Still waiting for the list of field stretching offensive players.
You actually said, why would any offensive playmakers come here.Another tight end.
Another player not stretching the field.
Still waiting for the list of field stretching offensive players.
Again...You actually said, why would any offensive playmakers come here.
I named 7off playmakers that got drafted in first 2 rounds.
Many other off players got drafted. That's a reason to come here. Get drafted and play in the league. Tj Jones, Riddick, Eq, etc
Will Fuller is probably one of the best field stretchers in college football history
Chase Claypool was a field stretcher but had 2 qbs who couldn't throw accurately down field.
Michael floyd stretched the field, but they didn't run it a ton because he always had safety help over the top. Chase was very similar in how teams covered him.
ESB was a field stretcher.
Kevin Stepherson was a field stretcher
Hopefully Lenzy and Austin can stretch it.
Just going by what you said. Offensive playmakers. They were all off playmakers. Great reason to come here, get to the leagueAgain...
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Will Fuller stretched the field. One player in a decade?
Lenzy is one...but he doesn't get to play until he turns 27 years old.
Dexter was one...but he wasn't allowed to play because well...apparently he couldn't remember a blocking assignment. Amazing how he's smart enough to get in the school that y'all say doesn't accept anyone but future heart surgeons but too stupid to remember a blocking assignment.
See BK doesn't get the perimeter players needed to succeed on the grand stage and when he does he refuses to play them until he's good and god damn ready to put them in.
BK...the king of the pipe dream.
Stepherson played his frosh year.Will Fuller is probably one of the best field stretchers in college football history
No argument there
Chase Claypool was a field stretcher but had 2 qbs who couldn't throw accurately down field.
I'd take him. Good football player but was not a field stretching receiver. Not elite quickness.
Michael floyd stretched the field, but they didn't run it a ton because he always had safety help over the top. Chase was very similar in how teams covered him.
Similar to Chase. Big body, great hands..better than Chase. Not elite speed.
ESB was a field stretcher.
He was a basket case
Kevin Stepherson was a field stretcher
Great athleticism. Did BK play him immediately? Nope. Another top athlete spectating immediately.
Then what happened?
Hopefully Lenzy and Austin can stretch it.
Lenzy could be but this will depend on Book and the philosophy. If we continue living on the 3 yard curl route and sit diwn...nope.
If we get Lenzy in space he will help drastically
No matter how you slice it it's wrong. Not enough explosive material and when given the material BK won't allow them to have meaningful participation for 2 years.
The scheme is wrong and the recruiting is lackluster
But hey...we got a good line coming back.
Fuller stepherson Floyd Boykin Claypool Jones EQ could all run. WR is not the problemStepherson played his frosh year.
Not sure what you call elite speed, low 4.4 speed is elite, and that is Floyd and Chase. If you think Sub 4.4 is elite, ok, but there's only a couple in the draft every year. ND's problem is they haven't had a QB who can throw the deep ball other than Kizer. WR at ND has not been the problem.
If Kizer had been the QB last year my lord with Chase and Boykin out wide. Both actually could stretch it but Book couldn't and wouldn't even attempt down field throws to the field side.
We can differ on how to get there but regardless what's being implemented is wrong.Stepherson played his frosh year.
Not sure what you call elite speed, low 4.4 speed is elite, and that is Floyd and Chase. If you think Sub 4.4 is elite, ok, but there's only a couple in the draft every year. ND's problem is they haven't had a QB who can throw the deep ball other than Kizer. WR at ND has not been the problem.
If Kizer had been the QB last year my lord with Chase and Boykin out wide. Both actually could stretch it but Book couldn't and wouldn't even attempt down field throws to the field side.
You just changed narrative. I don’t support the 3 points. That’s on the coaches and then book. D was ready for the game, offense was not, mostly book. Wimbush should have went in starting second quarter when it was clear book was not ready mentally. Or at minimum second half.We can differ on how to get there but regardless what's being implemented is wrong.
I'm not sure how you can defend 3 points in a playoff game or other drubbings that have become the BK staple.
It's great playing the weak. It's a whim and a prayer against the strong.
Did I say WR?Fuller stepherson Floyd Boykin Claypool Jones EQ could all run. WR is not the problem
Woulda, coulda, shouldaYou just changed narrative. I don’t support the 3 points. That’s on the coaches and then book. D was ready for the game, offense was not, mostly book. Wimbush should have went in starting second quarter when it was clear book was not ready mentally. Or at minimum second half.
Is Book the player, recruiter, coordinator and head coach?You just changed narrative. I don’t support the 3 points. That’s on the coaches and then book. D was ready for the game, offense was not, mostly book. Wimbush should have went in starting second quarter when it was clear book was not ready mentally. Or at minimum second half.
Dexter was never a field stretcher. Good vision and could make a guy miss. Average speed. It's a shame it took him nearly 4 years to realize that hard work can pay off. He cheated all ND fans.Did I say WR?
I said perimeter playmakers.
Does Dexter qualify as that? Most certainly. Slot, out wide...it doesn't matter. Are they explosive? Yes or no?
Fuller, yes
Stepherson, yes.
Dexter, yes.
Those three can play with anyone on the oerim
Woulda, coulda, shoulda
It's the same old song with BK on the grand stage.
Lopsided result. That's the pattern.
You said offensive playmakers. I named a bunch. Didnt even mention Prosise and Adams. Off playmakers is not the problemDid I say WR?
I said perimeter playmakers.
Does Dexter qualify as that? Most certainly. Slot, out wide...it doesn't matter. Are they explosive? Yes or no?
Fuller, yes
Stepherson, yes.
Dexter, yes.
Those three can play with anyone on the oerim
Woulda, coulda, shoulda
It's the same old song with BK on the grand stage.
Lopsided result. That's the pattern.