Bowen Drama Not Over
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My respect for Freeman's tenacity as a recruiter is growing by the minute. This guy doesn't take no for an answer and we need that kind of tireless perserverance on the trecruiting trail at ND right now. Weis had that, glad we got that in Freeman too.
We need to put away any emotions of being burned and realize that these top .001% football players are more in demand than ever. With all the pressures involved on their decision too, I can see how they might have some trouble with impulse sometimes.
I got my fingers crossed Freeman can seal the deal. Bowen's football skills, if he's somehow acquired in the 11th hour, will make ALL the decision anxiety worth it in the end even if we just get 1 season.
Bowen has the talent where even at #14 overall a lot of people think he's underrated. We need this player really badly.
We need to put away any emotions of being burned and realize that these top .001% football players are more in demand than ever. With all the pressures involved on their decision too, I can see how they might have some trouble with impulse sometimes.
I got my fingers crossed Freeman can seal the deal. Bowen's football skills, if he's somehow acquired in the 11th hour, will make ALL the decision anxiety worth it in the end even if we just get 1 season.
Bowen has the talent where even at #14 overall a lot of people think he's underrated. We need this player really badly.
Freeman just texted me and told me that he is so relieved that you are impressed with him.
Fair point and good perspective on Freeman. From the Bowen perspective, my distaste comes from how he has handled everything. Even as impulse, as I said in another thread, just handle it with class. You can be indecisive but still go out in style. This would be an example I would share with my kid on how to not handle a situation.
No. ND needs to shut the door. The kids a fruit cake. Bye.
Yeah, it's Christmas but you have been saying the same thing for years.
A poster repeatedly calling another poster a clown time after time in post after post should take a hard look in the mirror.
I've told you many times that you need to find another school to pull for. Again and again, you complain about ND's coaching, recruiting, NIL, monetary outlay, and myriad other things. Enough is enough.
Are his criticisms unwarranted? Don’t agree with all of his takes but he really doesn’t say anything crazy lol.
Yeah, they are. He approaches ND as a football franchise and not as an academic institution. He repeatedly complained about ND having 10 and 11 win seasons, failing to recognize that some athletes who choose to go to other schools are just not ND material. His latest complaint is that ND donors have not opened up their wallets to entice high school kids to matriculate at ND. He lacks an essential understanding of what ND is. And I am not the only poster who has pointed this out.
Nobody in their right mind has ‘emotions’ about this..which is indeed sad indictment on this board
As long as said poster posts the same drivel, day after day after day, it will elicit the same response.
chaseball is a clown poster.
I get it's frustrating, but let's be honest about this. Large sums of money are being thrown at these 18 year olds. Most of them coming from households struggling financially.
I'm sure deep down he wants to go to ND, but the upfront money is hard to pass up if it would help his family. That's alot of pressure for an 18 year old deciding whether to take the money that would benefit his family, the people he cares about most, or go to ND where deep down he probably wants to go.
I don't understand this stance whatsoever. Perhaps it's the childish tone that I'm having a hard time understanding.
I butt heads with @chaseball and the F+P+123 horeshit or whatever the **** he uses but he's simply a fan and wants to see our beloved be as good as they can possibly be.
Perhaps it bothers him you tend to have this carefree "however the season goes so be it" attitude?
I don't see him saying enough is enough how can you be happy getting trounced in the biggest of games, etc?
Ultimately he's a fan. If his expectations are higher than yours so be it.
It's not really a big deal. I promise you. If he'd like to see us compete with the very best again it doesn't impact you one bit. I'd even venture to say there are more of his ilk present day than yours. In other words 29 years since being truly competitive with the top brass in CFB is far too long. Embarrassingly too long.
Three decades.... and 35 years since a title?.?
Yeah I'd venture to say there is definitely some overdue sentiment from many passionate fans at this point.
Lastly...
The best and most important option...
And what I don't understand....
If he bothers you that much then don't read it.
I'll even raise you one in that you can simply ignore him so you don't accidentally see his messages.
Problem solved.......unless.....
You're just a negative person and can't help yourself but to read something you so despise.
So here you go...
Here's a link to Chase's account and all you have to do is hit the ignore button.
It's in your court now and it's put up or shut up time.
Ignoring is free. Can you...will you actually do it though?
Its not higher expectations- It’s a lack of understanding what Notre Dame stands for and values. His win at all cost attitude does not align with the ND mission and why 78 suggest he root for a team that is in alignment with his vision. I’d rather see ND take the Ivy league route than fall to this current landscape.I don't understand this stance whatsoever. Perhaps it's the childish tone that I'm having a hard time understanding.
I butt heads with @chaseball and the F+P+123 horeshit or whatever the **** he uses but he's simply a fan and wants to see our beloved be as good as they can possibly be.
Perhaps it bothers him you tend to have this carefree "however the season goes so be it" attitude?
I don't see him saying enough is enough how can you be happy getting trounced in the biggest of games, etc?
Ultimately he's a fan. If his expectations are higher than yours so be it.
It's not really a big deal. I promise you. If he'd like to see us compete with the very best again it doesn't impact you one bit. I'd even venture to say there are more of his ilk present day than yours. In other words 29 years since being truly competitive with the top brass in CFB is far too long. Embarrassingly too long.
Three decades.... and 35 years since a title?.?
Yeah I'd venture to say there is definitely some overdue sentiment from many passionate fans at this point.
Lastly...
The best and most important option...
And what I don't understand....
If he bothers you that much then don't read it.
I'll even raise you one in that you can simply ignore him so you don't accidentally see his messages.
Problem solved.......unless.....
You're just a negative person and can't help yourself but to read something you so despise.
So here you go...
Here's a link to Chase's account and all you have to do is hit the ignore button.
It's in your court now and it's put up or shut up time.
Ignoring is free. Can you...will you actually do it though?
Not saying all ND grads are in the same boat, but I can tell you that a ND degree is going to yield me about $16 million over the next 25 years. That’s just income, not including what I’ve already made in the past, and not counting investments. Not making that with an Oregon degree. ND isn’t some podunk school and there’s a reason people spend a lot to go there. Hope Bowen doesn’t tear an ACL or get too many concussions. But a lot of these bag guys will blow it on strippers and cocaine and won’t invest a dime.I get the argument that some families need the cash. I can tell you based on the in home visit Christmas photos the Bowen’s posted, they aren’t one of them. This decision was based on a whim of his. I truly believe Peyton Bowen has some issues.
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Rivals paying you $600K a year? Must be an influencer getting paid by the post.
Again...
What am I missing?
If he despises Chase's messages so much ignoring is free. It's easy too.
See where I come from if I truly don't like someone I don't associate with them. I don't talk, mingle...matter of fact I waste no time from my life thinking about them.
It's really a great thing...to be able to ignore something.
In this case he doesn't have to see Chase, read or interact with Chase about anything.
Right?
Unless he just can't help himself.
Now to your specific point...
I beg to differ.
The ND mission?
That got 86'd long ago.
I know there are a few that want to think this fairy tale holier-than-thou mantra continues...oh it does alright. Just chock-full of hypocrisy
Why? Because his MUM can clean a house? Maybe his father is in construction.
Ridiculous assunption you have there.
Moreover what you said regarding degree WAS....
Yes, WAS true to a point. (Although Phil Knight seems to be doing ok, eh`
The NIL obliterated that. Absolutely obliterated that with TNT 100x over.
A kid scoring six, seven figures straight out of high school is no longer a candidate of the 40 year plan sales pitch.
What's ridiculous about this is that ND despises the NIL right up to the point they have NIL players.
So let me get this straight...
ND will participate in the NIL but only a little bit because of the 40 year degree?
WTFE in huge neon lights and alarm bells are ringing here.
About your 16 million over 25 years....
Well shit sheriff some kid just got 8 figures in high school yet to take one college snap...
Yeah...
That 40 year degree is so important.
It WAS important alright...
10 million dollars ago to a high school kid and this is only the beginning
Practice what you preach then....
Here's Chase's link..
All is swell then, right?
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another one I wish would 'root' for some other teamI don't understand this stance whatsoever. Perhaps it's the childish tone that I'm having a hard time understanding.
I butt heads with @chaseball and the F+P+123 horeshit or whatever the **** he uses but he's simply a fan and wants to see our beloved be as good as they can possibly be.
Perhaps it bothers him you tend to have this carefree "however the season goes so be it" attitude?
I don't see him saying enough is enough how can you be happy getting trounced in the biggest of games, etc?
Ultimately he's a fan. If his expectations are higher than yours so be it.
It's not really a big deal. I promise you. If he'd like to see us compete with the very best again it doesn't impact you one bit. I'd even venture to say there are more of his ilk present day than yours. In other words 29 years since being truly competitive with the top brass in CFB is far too long. Embarrassingly too long.
Three decades.... and 35 years since a title?.?
Yeah I'd venture to say there is definitely some overdue sentiment from many passionate fans at this point.
Lastly...
The best and most important option...
And what I don't understand....
If he bothers you that much then don't read it.
I'll even raise you one in that you can simply ignore him so you don't accidentally see his messages.
Problem solved.......unless.....
You're just a negative person and can't help yourself but to read something you so despise.
So here you go...
Here's a link to Chase's account and all you have to do is hit the ignore button.
It's in your court now and it's put up or shut up time.
Ignoring is free. Can you...will you actually do it though?
I agree with this 100%. The way CFB is going, it would not surprise me if a group of 30 or so schools break away and form their own conference. They will be essentially an NFL minor league, where kids are paid salaries, and where there is not even the pretense that the athletes attend classes.
The remaining schools will still play football, but will agree to a system where such things as NIL are capped at modest ceilings and where there is an emphasis on education. My guess is that ND would be in the second group.
We will see.
It would appear that the Ivy League might be immune from the chaos created by NIL and the TP
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