If Notre Dame lands a 5 star running back, scratch that, a top 150 ranked running back with Autry Denson as their coach I will give echo and Pennick the password to my account. Not happening. Dude is an awful recruiter.
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The best players are most of the time... wait for it... the best players.
I don’t see any surprises. Only foskey would be the surprise. Will be an elite class, just wish they had a standout RB or WR in the class
They are missing that Dexter, Kevin Austin type of recruit at the skill positions. That being said, Kyren looks to be the real deal and Kelly has quite a bit of success with WRs/skill position guys who weren't highly ranked or recruited- Fuller, Stepherson, Josh Adams, Procise, Chris Brown, and Jafar come to mind.
Loss of HH, Quinn wasn't able to build the relationships, and the loss of HH as a bullet in the gun of elite recruiters from other schools, probably all contributed. Quinn now has product to stand on so hopefully we get a tick upward this cycle.
Good job. I like Irish Ontario as poster. Value his opinions but really think he's smoking something re. his opinions on this yrs OL class and NDs recruiting prospects for 2020. This yrs OL class is outstanding . Arguably the best in country. 4 solid 4 stars with 2 guys Carrol and Kristofic with realistic 5 star upside. Zeke Carroll was a huge want at OSU and a significant recruiting loss for Meyer to ND again on an instate big time OL recruit. If ND doesn't get blown out by Clemson ( which is unlikely) they'll kick serious ass on the recruiting trail for 2020. They'll land at least 1 5 star and several near elite high 4 star recruits. ND will solidly in the top 10 by the end of the 2020 recruiting period. Solidly ! Never does ND not see an upgrade in recruiting results when it performs at a top level on the field. 2020 recruiting will reap the dividends of the 2019 ND season. Unless they fall off the table in field performance next season. Bank on it... ND recruiting is trending up. I'm not sure how anyone can downplay that reality
Underwhelming overall especially at online and running back given recent success. As pointed out before its a sobering look at the state of the brand that they can not close on elite talent at these 2 positions over a 2 year period that has seen the production they have had and the record of the current team.
So wait... you don't think any of the top100 recruits that ND is landing could potentially turn out to be top100 players that blow up and become AAs? Why is that? Obviously if GT and HS were lower rated top100 players, not sure if anyone expected them to blow up either. What's different with this class?
Go back to some of Kelly's early recruiting classes. I think ND got burned by chasing highly rated recruits irregardless of fit. Since then, ND's recruiting classes have been in the 9-15 range. Solid classes with less attrition and fewer off the field issues.
ND is landing 1 composite 100 recruit... Kyle Hamilton.
Nobody said that ND's kids won't pan out. It's an excellent class that could be comprised of as many as 19, 4 star players... I just think it's a short a few future national award contending types. Now may 1 or 2 emerge from the group? Sure that can absolutely happen. I'm just seeing those guys this age like we did with 5 stars like Manti, Jaylon, Stephon, Michael, etc.
Nobody said that ND's kids won't pan out. It's an excellent class that could be comprised of as many as 19, 4 star players... I just think it's a short a few future national award contending types. Now may 1 or 2 emerge from the group? Sure that can absolutely happen. I'm just seeing those guys this age like we did with 5 stars like Manti, Jaylon, Stephon, Michael, etc.
Remember that year we got Clausen? Damn we rolled that year. What happened to the days when we’d pull in 4 5* players? I know Weis sucked at developing that talent but it’d be cool to recruit like that again.
dont get all the negativity on this class. '18 was a great class and '20 has a chance to be great to elite. We needed this class to be a solid "glue" type of class where there wasnt a large dropoff and we did that. I get being in the playoff & expecting 5* guys to follow but we may not start to see that until next year, especially since the map is pretty favorable with alot of midwest talent. Our defense has 2 4* recruits at every position, thats not exciting to you?Our Oline doesnt have any 5* guys but still has 4 4* recruits, thats not exciting? There's alot of guys in this class that will see alot of time at ND
I don't get where you see "All the negativity".... This is a narrative that seems to emerge on this board any time a poster says anything about Notre Dame that doesn't amount to "They are the best ever. Always".
I said Notre Dame landed a top 5 OL class that I happen to think is short a monster left tackle prospect, and somehow I'm shitting on the class in the mind of some... I could say "Notre Dame landed the best OL class in the country"... But I would be straight lying to you. Alabama did. Georgia was 2nd. Notre Dame's class enters the conversation after that.
So, are today's recruiting results the success expected from being 12-0, in the play-offs, BK stable in his job, great looking stadium, and a new football facility just about complete? Success breeds success. Is this what recruiting success looks like?
At Notre Dame, yes... A class that could be comprised of 17, 4 star players, most of whom had big time offers. No "holes" in the class. Balanced recruiting, with kids that didn't waiver during the process, 10 of whom (including 7 linemen) that will enroll early.
This is absolutely what recruiting success looks like at ND in the modern era... I would say this is Notre Dame recruiting at 85%-90%... A couple 5 star game changer / difference makers would put ND in the 95%-100% range relative to it's recruiting capabilities in this landscape, IMO.
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