A Notre Dame Degree

[stu4don]

Is priceless!

"The average NFL career lasts 3.3 years, according to the NFL Players' Association; 78 percent of players go broke within three years of retirement and 15.7 percent file for bankruptcy within 12 years of leaving the league, according to a paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research."

This should be in all of our mailers to potential recruits!

 

[chaseball]

the only recruits that care about this kind of rhetoric are mediocre ones

those high 4 star/5 star guys have a really high percentage of making an NFL roster and scare tactics are not going to resonate with them.

 

[Irish Duck]

the only recruits that care about this kind of rhetoric are mediocre ones

those high 4 star/5 star guys have a really high percentage of making an NFL roster and scare tactics are not going to resonate with them.

That is nonsense. The 4 star/5 stars certainly have better odd of making in the NFL but the average NFL career is very short - even for the 4 star/5 star guys. I appreciate that they think they are invulnerable and will be the guy that becomes a superstar but they should have a parent or mentor that is watching their back and helping them to understand that they have the opportunity to make a lot of money, even if for only a couple of years. Live reasonably and bank some money.

I was at Target last night and was pleased to see one of the Portland Trailblazers shopping there with his wife/girlfriend. As the guy makes millions per year, he knew he could save a few bucks by going to Target. Good for him. I suspect that he realizes that he has a limited window to make the big bucks.

 

[NDSMC78]

That is nonsense. The 4 star/5 stars certainly have better odd of making in the NFL but the average NFL career is very short - even for the 4 star/5 star guys. I appreciate that they think they are invulnerable and will be the guy that becomes a superstar but they should have a parent or mentor that is watching their back and helping them to understand that they have the opportunity to make a lot of money, even if for only a couple of years. Live reasonably and bank some money.

I was at Target last night and was pleased to see one of the Portland Trailblazers shopping there with his wife/girlfriend. As the guy makes millions per year, he knew he could save a few bucks by going to Target. Good for him. I suspect that he realizes that he has a limited window to make the big bucks.

Of course it is nonsense. It is typical for the poster at issue to focus on the number of stars one has to the exclusion of all else. Very few athletes make the NFL. For those who do, even a lengthy NFL career is short in terms of years. Most people want to do something productive after age 35. Having gone through at least some of the rigors of academia allows one to do this.

 

[stu4don]

Chase -- that is why it is key to educate these kids. Not everyone is a protected QB with a long NFL lifespan. I was at an ND Film School event here in LA two weeks ago and had a chance to have a beer with Darius Walker (3,249 rush yards, 693 carries, 4.68 average, 23 rush TD, 109 catches, 816 receiving yards, 3 receiving TD still holds the record in catches for RB) and Darrin Bragg. Darius was real good one and he had what 3 years in the NFL. He is doing very well as an ESPN broadcaster. Said he did some college games last year and is loving it. Spent time doing all kinds of sports games. Great kid. Darrin is working as a writer for a comedy show. He's pursuing acting. Great guys. Both doing very well.

Both still supporting their alma mater and giving support to undergrads who are pursuing a career in film/tv.

 

[South Bender]

the only recruits that care about this kind of rhetoric are mediocre ones

those high 4 star/5 star guys have a really high percentage of making an NFL roster and scare tactics are not going to resonate with them.

Uh... the "mediocre" ones (3*/low 4*) represent the vast majority of recruits.
5 stars are the minority.

So yes, this message would be beneficial to a lot of recruits. A lot.

 

[chaseball]

Uh... the "mediocre" ones (3*/low 4*) represent the vast majority of recruits.
5 stars are the minority.

So yes, this message would be beneficial to a lot of recruits. A lot.

The top programs in the country, favored to win the national championship year in and year out, don't recruit mediocre players. They have rosters full of nationally rated/top 150 types (The types of kids ND struggles mightily to get; the type of kids destined for an NFL future.)

I believe the messaging is part of the reason why. 'Bama sells kids on how they can prepare them to buck the odds, and have lucrative NFL careers. The typical nationally rated recruit with 30+ offers doesn't want to be sold on a degree in economics where he can work in a comfy cubicle on wall street for 40+ hours a week for the rest of his life. He wants to know he's maximizing his opportunity to cash in on his very rare and very lucrative athletic skill set.

 

[NDSMC78]

The top programs in the country, favored to win the national championship year in and year out, don't recruit mediocre players. They have rosters full of nationally rated/top 150 types (The types of kids ND struggles mightily to get; the type of kids destined for an NFL future.)

I believe the messaging is part of the reason why. 'Bama sells kids on how they can prepare them to buck the odds, and have lucrative NFL careers. The typical nationally rated recruit with 30+ offers doesn't want to be sold on a degree in economics where he can work in a comfy cubicle on wall street for 40+ hours a week for the rest of his life. He wants to know he's maximizing his opportunity to cash in on his very rare and very lucrative athletic skill set.

You are full of crap. Every player at Alabama is not a five star player. Every player at Alabama does not go to the NFL. Ditto for Clemson. And Ohio St. And Florida St. I wonder if you even believe the crap you write.

 

[Pennick44]

You are full of crap. Every player at Alabama is not a five star player. Every player at Alabama does not go to the NFL. Ditto for Clemson. And Ohio St. And Florida St. I wonder if you even believe the crap you write.

Chase is a star gazer. He is clueless about ND.

 

[echowaker]

the only recruits that care about this kind of rhetoric are mediocre ones

those high 4 star/5 star guys have a really high percentage of making an NFL roster and scare tactics are not going to resonate with them.

High percentage ? Have any facts to back that up ?

 

[South Bender]

The top programs in the country, favored to win the national championship year in and year out, don't recruit mediocre players. They have rosters full of nationally rated/top 150 types (The types of kids ND struggles mightily to get; the type of kids destined for an NFL future.)

I believe the messaging is part of the reason why. 'Bama sells kids on how they can prepare them to buck the odds, and have lucrative NFL careers. The typical nationally rated recruit with 30+ offers doesn't want to be sold on a degree in economics where he can work in a comfy cubicle on wall street for 40+ hours a week for the rest of his life. He wants to know he's maximizing his opportunity to cash in on his very rare and very lucrative athletic skill set.

^^and these same nationally rated recruits you mention would undoubtedly make up the majority of the 78% of players who are broke after their NFL careers are over, as reference by the OP.

Maybe these kids don't want to hear it, but their parents sure may. ND can offer things the other football factories can't in that regard. They would be crazy not to use that as a recruiting tool.

 

[IRISHJD98]

Is priceless!

"The average NFL career lasts 3.3 years, according to the NFL Players' Association; 78 percent of players go broke within three years of retirement and 15.7 percent file for bankruptcy within 12 years of leaving the league, according to a paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research."

This should be in all of our mailers to potential recruits!

Its also been a long standing statistic that NFL players who obtain their degrees average longer careers in the NFL.

 

[South Bender]

High percentage ? Have any facts to back that up ?

Facts??? Let's not clog up this discussion with facts.