A moment in time in Notre Dame football history. Perse cgvr debunked.

[Bodizephax]

Notre Dame Holds Off Hawaii, 48-42
December 01, 1991|Associated Press

• • This was the last team the Irish played before the great Cheerios bowl win over Florida with the great Jerome Bettis. The Irish played no defense and barely beat a team they should have blown out.
  • Such is college football... Read this and learn Perse and cgvr and quit your BITCHING ABOUT THE TEMPLE GAME ~!! TEMPLE WAS UNDEFEATED AND RANKED YOU FOOLS !! IT WAS A GOOD WIN LIKE ANY WIN IS !!
  • 
    HONOLULU — Tony Brooks and Jerome Bettis scored two touchdowns apiece as 18th-ranked Notre Dame outlasted Hawaii for a 48-42 victory Saturday night in a game with nearly 1,000 yards in offense.

Trailing 48-28 after Bettis scored his second touchdown on a two-yard run with 5:15 left, the Rainbows (4-7-1) scored two late touchdowns, with reserve quarterback Ivin Jasper leading the charge.

Jasper scored on a 31-yard run with 3:42 left and Hawaii recovered an onsides kick at its 49. Seven plays later, Jasper passed seven yards to Eddie Kealoha for a touchdown with 1:38 left.

But Notre Dame (9-3) recovered Hawaii's ensuing onsides kick and ran out the clock.

The Irish amassed 499 yards in total offense, but surrendered 473 yards to the scrappy Rainbows.

Irish quarterback Rick Mirer completed 12 of 19 passes for 218 yards and receiver Tony Smith had a career-high nine catches for 140 yards.

 

[cgvr]

Notre Dame Holds Off Hawaii, 48-42
December 01, 1991|Associated Press

• • This was the last team the Irish played before the great Cheerios bowl win over Florida with the great Jerome Bettis. The Irish played no defense and barely beat a team they should have blown out.
  • Such is college football... Read this and learn Perse and cgvr and quit your BITCHING ABOUT THE TEMPLE GAME ~!! TEMPLE WAS UNDEFEATED AND RANKED YOU FOOLS !! IT WAS A GOOD WIN LIKE ANY WIN IS !!
  • 
    HONOLULU — Tony Brooks and Jerome Bettis scored two touchdowns apiece as 18th-ranked Notre Dame outlasted Hawaii for a 48-42 victory Saturday night in a game with nearly 1,000 yards in offense.

Trailing 48-28 after Bettis scored his second touchdown on a two-yard run with 5:15 left, the Rainbows (4-7-1) scored two late touchdowns, with reserve quarterback Ivin Jasper leading the charge.

Jasper scored on a 31-yard run with 3:42 left and Hawaii recovered an onsides kick at its 49. Seven plays later, Jasper passed seven yards to Eddie Kealoha for a touchdown with 1:38 left.

But Notre Dame (9-3) recovered Hawaii's ensuing onsides kick and ran out the clock.

The Irish amassed 499 yards in total offense, but surrendered 473 yards to the scrappy Rainbows.

Irish quarterback Rick Mirer completed 12 of 19 passes for 218 yards and receiver Tony Smith had a career-high nine catches for 140 yards.

Nice try.... I didn't bitch about the temple game. I accurately wrote that porky was outcoached by Rhule. He was also outclassed and out coached in the bc, va.....games. He stinks....
PS Did Holtz ever go to a lower tier bowl?
Music City champs.....yay for us....

 

[Bodizephax]

Nice try.... I didn't bitch about the temple game. I accurately wrote that porky was outcoached by Rhule. He was also outclassed and out coached in the bc, va.....games. He stinks....
PS Did Holtz ever go to a lower tier bowl?
Music City champs.....yay for us....

CHUMP, YOUR JUNK HAS BEEN DEBUNKED !

 

[cgvr]

Bodi, didn't your dad ever teach you? You can't reason with stupid! How can you reason with somebody who thinks Loserham or Davie was a better coach than Kelly? How can you reason with somebody who can't see beyond the stars beside a guy's name. Have you ever got stuck in the mud? Bodi, you're just wasting gas spinning those tires.

You're just a liar. I've never seen anyone on this board state that Willingham or Davie were better coaches than Mr Potato Head.

Keep building the straw men...it's all you got.

kelly stinks.

PS I did accurately point out that:

Prior to this year's draft kelly (4) is under performing willingham (4.66), davie (4.2) and outperforming weis (3.8) by .2 players selected in the NFL draft per annum.

He is almost 3 players per yer below Holtz (6.7)....

If he gets 6 players drafted this year he'll jump davie. With 8 he'll jump willingham.

Again, he stinks.

 

[Pennick44]

Bodi, didn't your dad ever teach you? You can't reason with stupid! How can you reason with somebody who thinks Loserham or Davie was a better coach than Kelly? How can you reason with somebody who can't see beyond the stars beside a guy's name. Have you ever got stuck in the mud? Bodi, you're just wasting gas spinning those tires.

Well said Ara. The Kelly haters are losers. ND is so lucky to have Kelly at the helm.

 

[Irishjohn68]

Bodi, didn't your dad ever teach you? You can't reason with stupid! How can you reason with somebody who thinks Loserham or Davie was a better coach than Kelly? How can you reason with somebody who can't see beyond the stars beside a guy's name. Have you ever got stuck in the mud? Bodi, you're just wasting gas spinning those tires.

Well said Ara. If someone hates ND as much as cvgr does, why bother following ND? He is very sad!

 

[BGI User 2604]

Notre Dame Holds Off Hawaii, 48-42
December 01, 1991|Associated Press

• • This was the last team the Irish played before the great Cheerios bowl win over Florida with the great Jerome Bettis. The Irish played no defense and barely beat a team they should have blown out.
  • Such is college football... Read this and learn Perse and cgvr and quit your BITCHING ABOUT THE TEMPLE GAME ~!! TEMPLE WAS UNDEFEATED AND RANKED YOU FOOLS !! IT WAS A GOOD WIN LIKE ANY WIN IS !!
  • 
    HONOLULU — Tony Brooks and Jerome Bettis scored two touchdowns apiece as 18th-ranked Notre Dame outlasted Hawaii for a 48-42 victory Saturday night in a game with nearly 1,000 yards in offense.

Trailing 48-28 after Bettis scored his second touchdown on a two-yard run with 5:15 left, the Rainbows (4-7-1) scored two late touchdowns, with reserve quarterback Ivin Jasper leading the charge.

Jasper scored on a 31-yard run with 3:42 left and Hawaii recovered an onsides kick at its 49. Seven plays later, Jasper passed seven yards to Eddie Kealoha for a touchdown with 1:38 left.

But Notre Dame (9-3) recovered Hawaii's ensuing onsides kick and ran out the clock.

The Irish amassed 499 yards in total offense, but surrendered 473 yards to the scrappy Rainbows.

Irish quarterback Rick Mirer completed 12 of 19 passes for 218 yards and receiver Tony Smith had a career-high nine catches for 140 yards.

I was at the game and remember it well. UH ran an option running attack that ND just couldn't seem to stop. The UH QB, Ivin Jasper, is now the OC at the Naval Academy. The UH OC at that time was Paul Johnson, now the HC at Georgia Tech. At the time of the '92 game with the Irish, Ken Niumatalolo was working as a graduate assistant for Johnson. I am sure all those names are familiar to Irish fans. Johnson left UH a couple of years later to take the OC position at the Naval Academy, where Niumatololo and Jasper eventually followed him. They are basically running the same offense at the USNA that UH ran back in 1992.

At the time, UH had a reputation of beating (or at least giving a tough game to) marquee football programs from the mainland. They would come out to Hawaii for a couple of days of sun and sand and think they could just show up to the game and get a "W." UH had a scrappy team and ran a quirky offense that gave teams trouble. Even though the Irish were physically superior to the UH team, we were lucky to get out of there with a win.

 

[scotchirishblood]

Well said Ara. If someone hates ND as much as cvgr does, why bother following ND? He is very sad!

John ..... while I don't have a dog in this fight and don't agree 100 percent with cvgr's take on Kelly I have to point out that I have seen no "ND hate" espoused by him. He simply thinks Kelly underachieves as ND's head coach. He thinks Kelly (not ND) stinks.

 

[cgvr]

Well said Ara. If someone hates ND as much as cvgr does, why bother following ND? He is very sad!

The only thing well said/entertaining ever from ara was his timeless droning about his upbringing.

"Ara was my surrogate father.... blah blah blah waaa waaa waaa"

That was the most "hysterical" posting on this site ever...

 

[cgvr]

John ..... while I don't have a dog in this fight and don't agree 100 percent with cvgr's take on Kelly I have to point out that I have seen no "ND hate" espoused by him. He simply thinks Kelly underachieves as ND's head coach. He thinks Kelly (not ND) stinks.

Small nit, I don't think it. I know it.

The guy lacks loyalty to my Alma Mater and should have been shown the door the minute "Eagles" came out of his mouth...

He's scheming to jump ship as I type, but no one wants him....

 

[onlyonenow]

cgvr is the type of 'fan' no team wants.

 

[FLballcoach1]

Lou fired Darnell and coached the defense for the Sugar Bowl against UF. Lou was one of the very few who was totally literate on both sides of the ball and could coordinate both sides of the ball better than anyone on the staff. He hired Minter and ND had elite defenses in 92 and 93.

ND's defenses were not dominate 94-96 because the personnel was not dominate. You dominate on defenses with future high draft pick NFL players on defense. EVERYWHERE. We have seen what Teo, Day, Lynch, Tuitt and J Smith can do.

Alabama plays 8 or 9 of those guys on defense every year. Every one on here talks "scheme" yet virtually no one here knows anything about scheme. Try the KISS principle. When ND is permitted to recruit elite defenders and play high round draft picks all over the field on defense. ND will play elite defense. Until then ND will have to continue scoring tons of points, play opportunistic defense, and catch a break on the injury front for a shot at the playoffs.

Could of happened last year but got decimated in the secondary before Stanford. The scheme to shut down McCaffery and the run worked perfectly. The players in back could not hold up in coverage.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Lou fired Darnell and coached the defense for the Sugar Bowl against UF. Lou was one of the very few who was totally literate on both sides of the ball and could coordinate both sides of the ball better than anyone on the staff. He hired Minter and ND had elite defenses in 92 and 93.

ND's defenses were not dominate 94-96 because the personnel was not dominate. You dominate on defenses with future high draft pick NFL players on defense. EVERYWHERE. We have seen what Teo, Day, Lynch, Tuitt and J Smith can do.

Alabama plays 8 or 9 of those guys on defense every year. Every one on here talks "scheme" yet virtually no one here knows anything about scheme. Try the KISS principle. When ND is permitted to recruit elite defenders and play high round draft picks all over the field on defense. ND will play elite defense. Until then ND will have to continue scoring tons of points, play opportunistic defense, and catch a break on the injury front for a shot at the playoffs.

Could of happened last year but got decimated in the secondary before Stanford. The scheme to shut down McCaffery and the run worked perfectly. The players in back could not hold up in coverage.

"Lou fired Darnell and coached the defense for the Sugar Bowl against UF. Lou was one of the very few who was totally literate on both sides of the ball and could coordinate both sides of the ball better than anyone on the staff. He hired Minter and ND had elite defenses in 92 and 93......."


Agree

 

[padams10]

Nice try.... I didn't bitch about the temple game. I accurately wrote that porky was outcoached by Rhule. He was also outclassed and out coached in the bc, va.....games. He stinks....
PS Did Holtz ever go to a lower tier bowl?
Music City champs.....yay for us....

Hey cgvr, didn't we have 4 turnovers a piece in both the Temple and BC games. You take away even half of those and those two games are blow outs. Also, against Va we lost our starting qb will almost a full half to play.

Your obsession with bashing Kelly is not only ridiculous but it's completely off base. You're obviously not a big college football fan or very knowledgeable about ND football because he's brought our program to the best point it's been since the early '90s. But go ahead and keep on bitching if it makes you feel good. By the way, when you call him Porky you sound like a 12 year old.

 

[ftnfan62]

Didn' we get 95 scholarships when Lou was there? Wasn't it more common for kids to play 4 years? Are we limited to 20 hours a week of practice?

Hard to compare on draft picks and bowls. BK would be one of the top 5 coaches today on anyone's rating. Saban has no academic requirements to meet. How many championships did he win at MSU?

Not saying any of us are over joyed without a championship but unlike the coaches since Lou, I feel we have a chance in every game.

 

[cgvr]

Hey cgvr, didn't we have 4 turnovers a piece in both the Temple and BC games. You take away even half of those and those two games are blow outs. Also, against Va we lost our starting qb will almost a full half to play.

Your obsession with bashing Kelly is not only ridiculous but it's completely off base. You're obviously not a big college football fan or very knowledgeable about ND football because he's brought our program to the best point it's been since the early '90s. But go ahead and keep on bitching if it makes you feel good. By the way, when you call him Porky you sound like a 12 year old.

Mr. Potato Head doesn't understand ball control, power, intellectual and physical brutality. He's dumb as a rock.

He doesn't understand fundamental football math either. Again, the little porker's dumb.

Perhaps you can explain this...

MSU Final AP ranking

2010 14
2011 11
2012 NR
2013 3
2014 6
2015 6

Notre Dame Final AP rankings

2010 NR
2011 NR
2012 4
2013 20
2014 NR
2015 11

MSU Rivals recruiting rankings
2010 31
2011 32
2012 42
2013 47
2014 22
2015 22
2016 18

Rivals recruiting rankings ND ’10-‘16

2010 ND 14
2011 ND 10
2012 ND 20
2013 ND 3
2014 ND 11
2015 ND 11
2016 ND 13

 

[perseverare]

it quiet clear to anyone with a brain that Bodi is 'brain desd'

But alas a thread for the galactically stupid and the 'mean girls'

Bodi, just pathetic. Continuous Biatch.

 

[ftnfan62]

If you play a week schedule, you can be top rated like Baylor.....I'd look at head to head..last 5 years....

ND is 4-1 vs Dantonio with Kelly......Equal recruits...Seems like BK gets the nod there..

 

[Irishjohn68]

Small nit, I don't think it. I know it.

The guy lacks loyalty to my Alma Mater and should have been shown the door the minute "Eagles" came out of his mouth...

He's scheming to jump ship as I type, but no one wants him....

Stop it. ND is not your Alma Mater!

 

[Epictitus]

cgvr, you really don't care how stupid you look on this board, do you?

 

[Irishstuie]

Pers still being pers I see....

 

[cgvr]

Stop it. ND is not your Alma Mater!

Hahaha, you don't have an ND degree and I do. Here's some kelly math for you. Now pay attention:

Rivals recruiting rankings ND ’06-‘15
2006 ND 8
2007 ND 8
2008 ND 21
2009 ND 2
2010 ND 14
2011 ND 10
2012 ND 20
2013 ND 3
2014 ND 11
2015 ND 11
2016 ND 12

Rivals recruiting rankings Stanford ’06-‘15
2006 Stanford 54
2007 Stanford 51
2008 Stanford 20
2009 Stanford 50
2010 Stanford 26
2011 Stanford 22
2012 Stanford 5
2013 Stanford 63
2014 Stanford 14
2015 Stanford 18
2016 Stanford 19

MSU Rivals recruiting rankings
2010 31
2011 32
2012 42
2013 47
2014 22
2015 22
2016 18

Notre Dame Final AP rankings (1 top 10 finish)
2010 NR
2011 NR
2012 4
2013 20
2014 NR
2015 11

MSU Final AP ranking (3 top ten finishes)
2010 14
2011 11
2012 NR
2013 3
2014 6
2015 6

Stanford Final AP rankings: (4 top ten finishes)
2010 4
2011 7
2012 7
2013 11
2014 NR
2015 3

Would you like to compare major bowl wins for each of these teams in that time frame?

Now repeat after me "kelly stinks".

 

[Irishjohn68]

Hahaha, you don't have an ND degree and I do. Here's some kelly math for you. Now pay attention:

Rivals recruiting rankings ND ’06-‘15
2006 ND 8
2007 ND 8
2008 ND 21
2009 ND 2
2010 ND 14
2011 ND 10
2012 ND 20
2013 ND 3
2014 ND 11
2015 ND 11
2016 ND 12

Rivals recruiting rankings Stanford ’06-‘15
2006 Stanford 54
2007 Stanford 51
2008 Stanford 20
2009 Stanford 50
2010 Stanford 26
2011 Stanford 22
2012 Stanford 5
2013 Stanford 63
2014 Stanford 14
2015 Stanford 18
2016 Stanford 19

MSU Rivals recruiting rankings
2010 31
2011 32
2012 42
2013 47
2014 22
2015 22
2016 18

Notre Dame Final AP rankings (1 top 10 finish)
2010 NR
2011 NR
2012 4
2013 20
2014 NR
2015 11

MSU Final AP ranking (3 top ten finishes)
2010 14
2011 11
2012 NR
2013 3
2014 6
2015 6

Stanford Final AP rankings: (4 top ten finishes)
2010 4
2011 7
2012 7
2013 11
2014 NR
2015 3

Would you like to compare major bowl wins for each of these teams in that time frame?

Now repeat after me "kelly stinks".

It bothers you that much that you have been called out as a fake! No I don't have a ND degree and neither do you!

 

[cgvr]

It bothers you that much that you have been called out as a fake! No I don't have a ND degree and neither do you!

The reality is that the only way you could/can get into ND is with a ticket.
PS I got in when you had to be smart.....
Lastly, please review the stats I provided and admit that porky stinks.

 

[FLballcoach1]

Pers still being pers I see....

So a frustrated wannabe coach who never had to stones to be part of football at any level other than this forum? I agree