8pm, ABC at Clemson

[FSUTribe76]

My bad I was terribly wrong. Since 2008 (When Dabo took over) the average is just under 4. Vs the 2 that I said. And in all of those finishes 1 team finished in the top 5, and 2 finished in the top 10.

Huge difference.

Also how many Top 25 teams is a Power 5 conference supposed to have? Last time I checked 25/5 is 5. And there's usually a couple of nonPower Five teams sneaking into the lower top 25. Right now there's 2 (Notre Dame and BYU) but hovering right outside the Top 25 is Toledo, Houston, Temple and Memphis so once they rack up more wins they'll be in. In 2014 there were 4, 2013 there were 3, 2012 there were 6, 2011 there were 5, 2010 there were 5, in 2009 there 8, and in 2008 there were 6. So explain to me again why a P5 conference getting in 4 teams in the Top 25 every year is a bad thing?

 

[FSUTribe76]

Wait Florida state isn't always Florida state? Now your ego about them is so big that they count as a different school?

GTech and FSU are the only 2 I was talking about. Guess you were in a little too big of a hurry to be that guy.

Que?

You should reread what you put down, I have no clue what you're talking about here. You said there were only one top 5 finishes (there were two) and only two top 10 finishes (there were six) since 2008. I literally have no clue what you're talking about now.

 

[IRISHJD98]

Again facts.....shakes head. 2 FSU teams finished in the top 5 and six not 2 in the top 10 since 2008. The ACC was definitely down when FSU was in its Lost Decade but there's no reason to be so well outside the land of facts. I'd almost accuse you of being an Argus persona but you haven't started referring to people as "it" in a creepy serial killer style and gone completely off into lalaland.

The creepy serial thing is weird. But Argus's most annoying quality is that he constantly hijacks threads by unnecessarily talking about FSU.

That's really annoying, because there's an FSU board he should post on if he wants to talk about FSU.

 

[twalsh]

You guys pretty much have two weeks as well, I don't really think you are preparing much for Umass, but I could be wrong. Either way, I do agree we have the advantage with no game this week and it being at home.

UMass just lost on a last second field goal to a team that killed Penn State two weeks ago. Yes, we do have to prepare for them. I think/hope we will win handily, but we do have to prepare.

 

[TimmyBobby]

How anyone could even argue that Dabo Sweeney is in the same category of coaches as Brian Kelly is laughable. Simply comparing records as win/loss does not take into account that ND has played a far more difficult SOS over the same period of time. Brian Kelly is rated by most as a top 5 CFB coach along with Saban, Meyer, Snyder and Stoops while I don't see Dabo as anywhere near the top 10.

Dabo being viewed as a joke is fine with us. We have beaten LSU, Ohio State, and Oklahoma in our last three bowls. Dabo has beaten some pretty good teams and coaches. He is one hell of a recruiter and players coach. Last but not least he is a good man.

 

[twalsh]

To the Clemson fans who have been frequenting this thread, can any of you recommend a parking lot for next Saturday's game? It would be great if you could direct me to a lot where there will be some tailgating and where we could meet some of the Clemson faithful. Thanks in advance.

'78, most all of the lots close to the stadium are controlled by IPTAY, Clemson's booster club. Passes only, and will be 99% Clemson fans. Many of the visiting fans end up in what they call the YMCA lot, west of the stadium across the lake. You can walk to the stadium, say 10 minutes, or take a shuttle from there. Much easier to walk back after the game, shuttle line will be brutal.

 

[twalsh]

The creeping serial thing is weird. But Argus's most annoying quality is that he constantly hijacks threads by unnecessarily talking about FSU.

That's really annoying, because there's an FSU board he should post on if he wants to talk about FSU.

He's also very down on the ACC in general, primarily because his obsession, FSU, is in the ACC.

 

[NDSMC78]

'78, most all of the lots close to the stadium are controlled by IPTAY, Clemson's booster club. Passes only, and will be 99% Clemson fans. Many of the visiting fans end up in what they call the YMCA lot, west of the stadium across the lake. You can walk to the stadium, say 10 minutes, or take a shuttle from there. Much easier to walk back after the game, shuttle line will be brutal.

Thank you for the information.

 

[ilovemyself7]

I suggest you guys check out Greenville SC downtown area Friday night. There is an annual event taking place all weekend called Fall for Greenville. Great crowd, beer, restaurants in a small walkable area. It's only about 30 minutes from Clemson.
Saturday, get up early. Get to your spots early. Walk around and enjoy the small college town, shops, etc. When Brent Mussberger coined the hill the most exciting 15-25 seconds in college football he had fell in love with the atmosphere. He visited the Esso regularly which is the restaurant/bar near the stadium.
The last time you guys visited, we led the game until the 4th when Joe M led you back late. Pretty cool. We then won in 79' at your place.

Welcome and have fun.

Fall for Greenville is actually the following week, but I agree all traveling Irish fans should plan to spend time in Downtown Greenville on Friday night or Saturday/Sunday Morning

 

[Yooper Irishfan]

Early thought on this game is that it will be a dandy. It will be strength on strength when we have the ball, as they are best at shutting down the run. Kizer will be tested for sure, but he seems like a very calm and cool kid, and Kelly has historically had his teams ready to go for big road games, so I expect him to do pretty well. We will have to run it effectively though to take the pressure off of him. I also expect to see a lot of bubble screens/swing passes to loosen up the pressure and give Kizer some confidence.

Should be good. This week against UMass will give us a little more context for our pass defense.

 

[funkbott]

People forget that back in 2003 and 2004 when the best of the Big East came over to join the ACC that all of the media was trumpeting how "unfair" it was for the ACC to have that much talent. They had yet to go full force on their SEC love fest and most of the articles were how about the new ACC would dominate the rest of the conferences. But that was only a couple of years into FSU's "Lost Decade" where we were trapped in mediocrity under Bobby Bowden's loyalty to old coaches that weren't hungry and nitwit son plus we had years of subpar training as one player died due to an unseen heart condition and we overcompensated so the media assumed FSU would be right back to our rightful spot in the Top 5. Miami lost its Stadium next door in the old Orange Bowl and lost of all its mojo almost overnight. Clemson and the rest of the old guard ACC never picked up FSU's slack to really take advantage of the situation and Virginia Tech never found an offense outside of Michael Vick and now it's stuck in its own version of FSU's Lost Decade.

So by having FSU and Miami drop off simultaneously when both were supposed to be challenging every year for the national title not just ACC title, Virginia Tech never finding a valid offense other than one of the year's FSU won it all and the old guard ACC never living up to their potential and taking advantage of the absence of a dominant FSU and Miami, the ACC lost a ton of respect.

I think the ACC is slowly getting its way back there as the talent has always been there (if you look it up its always SEC and ACC #1 and #2 in NFL talent sometimes flip flopping), it's been a coaching deficit more than anything.

North Carolina comes from one of the most populous states with a lot of great HS talent and SHOULD be top 20 if not top 10 every year but hasn't found a coach since Mack Brown decades ago.

Virginia SHOULD be in the top 25 every year as well for the same reasons as UNC although Virginia Tech is a bigger obstacle to them than NC State and Duke is to UNC.

Pitt is a big state school in a powerful HS football state that SHOULD be taking advantage of Penn State's giant mess and cleaning house in state but that hasn't been the case because of poor coaching and recruiting.

Syracuse SHOULD be a perennial too 25 team as well as its the only school of substance in the NE besides BC and worthless Rutgers and UConn. They should be wrapping up the admittedly limited NE HS football prospects but that's probably good enough for 20-25 year in and year out with an occasional burst to top 15.

Georgia Tech is definitely second banana, but it's second banana in a relatively populous state that actually beats Florida in division 1 recruits per capita. Georgia produces twice the talent as Alabama so at a bare min Georgia Tech SHOULD be equivalent to an Auburn year in and year out ie usually top 25, half the time top 15 and every 5-10 years a run at a MNC.

Miami has been laughably bad for its talent level for almost a decade now. I just read an article noting the huge NFL talent its produced the past five years and how statistically that should equate to a 10+ win type of team ala FSU. But that hasn't happened because of two reasons. 1) Horrible fan support, their home games are basically away games when facing a decent team like FSU and nonexistent when there's a mediocre or worse team. That affects the teams psyche. And more importantly 2) Horrible Coaching. Even now, it's talent level is comparable to its old heyday where it wasn't quite always top 5 like FSU every year but was top 5 then top 20 then top 5 again then back to top 20. Until they dump Golden and find a quality coach and get a near campus stadium, they're going to be also rans severely underperforming their talent.

Clemson...is actually the only team right now in the ACC basically maximising its potential along with FSU. Speaking as an outsider, your team will never be Top 5 every year, year in and year out. South Carolina is just too small of a state to produce the talent necessary for it. You're probably acting at full potential which is top 25 every year with periodic forays into the top 10. Maybe even picking up a MNC every decade or two. So I have zero issues right now with Clemson.

Clemson, FSU and Duke are the only three schools (maybe GT and BC) that have coaches that are truly maximising the potential of each program. NC State and to a lesser extent Wake Forest and Virginia Tech are just slightly underperforming. But Miami, UNC, Virginia, Syracuse and Pitt are HORRIBLY underperforming due to horrific coaching. When more of the schools beyond FSU and Clemson are maximising or at least closing in on their potential, you will see the ACC get its due.

First off, you are delusional if you think Syracuse should be a top 25 mainstay.

I also think you are wrong about Clemson when you say we should only expect "random, brief stints in the top 10." No, SC doesnt produce enough talent to feed a continuous top 10 program...which is why we recruit GA, FL, and NC so well.

Im assuming you have never been to Clemson before, or maybe you would understand why we are able to pull recruits from all over...we currently have players on the roster or commits from SC, GA, FL, TN, AL, NC, VA, MD, NY, CT, NJ, DE, KS, AR, TX, and even Hawaii. Clemson has become a national brand over the past few years and can now attract prospects from afar

 

[FSUTribe76]

First off, you are delusional if you think Syracuse should be a rop 25 mainstay.

I also think you are wrong about Clemson when you say we should only expect "random, brief stints in the top 10." No, SC doesnt produce enough talent to feed a continuous top 10 program...which is why we recruit GA, FL, and NC so well.

Im assuming you have never been to Clemson before, or maybe you would understand why we are able to pull recruits from all over...we currently have players on the roster or commits from SC, GA, FL, TN, AL, NC, VA, MD, NY, CT, NJ, DE, KS, AR, TX, and even Hawaii. Clemson has become a national brand over the past few years and can now attract prospects from afar

I've been to Clemson probably a dozen times over the decade and every team selects players from all over the place, our incoming QB is from California. But most of the core of your team is going to come from your region. For FSU that's Florida and southern Georgia too ultra rich sources. For you its South Carolina and northern Georgia which while decent (which is why I said you should always be in the top 25) it's not on the same level and you'll probably beat us about every third or fourth game now that we're both maximising our talent (you beat us 6 out of 10 during our Lost Decade but we've gone 15-2 against you outside of our Lost Decade) , but as an outsider you're fooling yourself by thinking Clemson should be top five or even ten year in and year out.

Frankly, you should think of it as a complement, I think Dabo is a good if not great coach who has your program operating at its peak. And you might even beat us this year. Beat ND first and then I'll worry about it.

 

[tothmaster]

To the Clemson fans who have been frequenting this thread, can any of you recommend a parking lot for next Saturday's game? It would be great if you could direct me to a lot where there will be some tailgating and where we could meet some of the Clemson faithful. Thanks in advance.

Definitely the YMCA lot. It's right by the lake and is a nice spot for tailgating. Most visiting teams have large tailgates set up at the YMCA. It is a cash to enter lot and is directly beside the largely visiting RV lot. FSU fans and other well traveling fan bases usually have a local club event set up here. You will generally see several thousand visiting fans in this lot. There is a free shuttle from the YMCA to the bottom of Lot 3, about 100 yards from the Esso Club. It runs frequently. You'll likely have a good time tailgating there, and then take the shuttle into downtown Clemson for some bars and atmosphere just before the kickoff.

Otherwise, you could try to get a Lot 13 pass, which is in the rugby field by the baseball stadium. It is the largest and probably most rowdy lot. Clemson fans are generally pretty nice to opposing fans, but you're bound to see some drunk assholes in this lot given that it is not reserved. In any event, it is probably the best and most cost effective way to get a true taste for Clemson tailgating if you don't want to hit up the YMCA lot.

If you want to drop some more money, get a Lot 2 pass. This is right behind the North Stands and has some higher dollar tailgates. You'll probably get the most free food and cigars in this lot, for the price, but less flip cup than Lot 13.

I'll be in Lot 4 with plenty of bourbon, beer, shrimp and HDTV to go around. Swing on by if you like.

Safe travels. Welcome to Clemson. Hope we have a hell of a game and a close Tigers win. Can't wait to make the trip up to South Bend for the next one.

 

[BionicTiger]

If you wanted to park closer to the stadium and be in the action downtown, there are pay lots in the residential areas downtown. They are usually $20-30. They start on the corner of North Clemson and Wiggington (google maps to get there). People essentially just charge for people to park in their large yards. You're right behind downtown and steps from bars/the esso club. It's also about a 10 minute walk to the stadium, probably a little less. It's easy to get out post game as well.

 

[NDSMC78]

Tothmaster and bionic tiger, thanks to both of you for your advice.

 

[CousinClem]

I don't know if it is true or not, maybe a Notre Dame fan can confirm, but I was told that the Notre Dame boosters had rented out The Smoking Pig for game day. Anyone know if that is the case?

 

[NDSMC78]

I don't know if it is true or not, maybe a Notre Dame fan can confirm, but I was told that the Notre Dame boosters had rented out The Smoking Pig for game day. Anyone know if that is the case?

What is The Smoking Pig?

 

[tothmaster]

What is The Smoking Pig?

Really awesome BBQ joint.

 

[continually35forever]

Brian Kelly better than Dabo Swinney??? Not buying that. Kelly may be more experienced, but I wouldn't say he is a better coach by any measure. Kelly is 48-20 at Notre Dame .705 winning percentage. Swinney is 64-26 at Clemson .727 winning percentage. This is a pretty equal record with a slight advantage to Swinney. In the last few years Dabo has knocked off the following Elite Coaches: Steve Spurrier, Bob Stoops, Mark Richt, Les Miles, Urban Meyer, and Gus Mahlzahn. Kelly has knocked off Les Miles, Mark Dantonio, and David Shaw.

Notre Dame has a top 10 type of team, but Kelly is not a better coach than Swinney. Swinney is one of only just a handful of coaches who have won 10 or more games the last 4 years in a row. I do think that ND is better on both the OL and DL and that usually spells trouble. If ND wins, it will be because ND controls the line of scrimmage and wins the turnover battle. It won't be because Kelly is a better coach, but that is just my opinion.

If Kelly had the same academic playing field as clemson he would have an 80% winning percentage - minimum

academics are a huge issue

ND Clemson -- apples and oranges

 

[NDSMC78]

Really awesome BBQ joint.

Hmmm. I may have to check it out and see how it compares to Van's Pig Stand in Norman, Oklahoma.

 

[acmnni]

"
If Kelly had the same academic playing field as clemson he would have an 80% winning percentage - minimum

academics are a huge issue

ND Clemson -- apples and oranges "

59 continually35forever, Today at 9:54 AM

This is the same school where the starting QB got caught cheating and wasn't expelled? Rigorous standards up there!

 

[CousinClem]

If Kelly had the same academic playing field as clemson he would have an 80% winning percentage - minimum

academics are a huge issue

ND Clemson -- apples and oranges

Academic smack? Clemson is a top 25 public university. They are usually top ten in player graduation rates and due to strict credit transfer guidelines we cannot accept juco's. Dabo left a WR that starts now for the Steelers home from the LSU bowl game because he skipped a study hall. I assure you our players have to work in the classroom as well as the football field.

 

[melstew]

Mel,
Seahawks makes Clemson seem like a ghost town except for Saturday morning. Where will you be staying? Greenville is an awesome town.. Great bars and great restaurants. Clemson will be live starting Friday through the entire weekend. If you are tailgating on Saturday definitely hit up the Esso Club on Friday night. Plenty of other bars to hit in downtown CLemson. So many different things I would recommend to you but its all determined on what your plans are like I mentioned earlier. When are you getting into town? Are you staying "in" Clemson? Plans for the game? Barhopping tailgating, etc..

Concur with NDSMC. Thanks to all for the great advice. We are staying in Greenville (arriving Friday AM), and really have no concrete plans beyond doing some walking or running on Friday so we can drink and eat Sarturday with a guilt free conscience.

 

[6forcu]

melstew, Lake Jocassee is north of Clemson. The foothills trail is great but
Clemson is a kind of dead town except for Game Time, it's electric ORANGE ! Hike and Camp.

https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&hl=en&tab=ew&gws_rd=ssl#hl=en&q=jocassee+gorges+hiking
Go Early Saturday and cruise the tailgate areas. The food will be fantastic and peeps will welcome you. Especially if you come out of the mountains looking Leprechaun

RE:
My plan is to do some hiking early Friday, and try to take in the atmosphere Friday evening and Saturday. This will be my first trip to Death Valley. Any recommendations or thoughts?

Clemson will not be a dead town that weekend. Clemson is laid back so just chill and enjoy it. Go to the Esso club.

 

[6forcu]

'78, most all of the lots close to the stadium are controlled by IPTAY, Clemson's booster club. Passes only, and will be 99% Clemson fans. Many of the visiting fans end up in what they call the YMCA lot, west of the stadium across the lake. You can walk to the stadium, say 10 minutes, or take a shuttle from there. Much easier to walk back after the game, shuttle line will be brutal.

The Y beach is the best deal in town. 20 bucks to park plenty of room to tailgate and a shuttle.

 

[6forcu]

Don't go bother on a S.Car website (Fighting Gamecock Forum is their rivals website).. If you don't think S.Car wins the national championship every year you're either: 1. A tater (what they call Clemson fans), 2. A delusional fan, 3. A Spurrier hater, 4. A tater, 5. Fake Gamecock fan, 6. Cuss you out, or 7. Ban you.. Did I mention they call you a tater? It's quite amusing actually. Most of them honestly thought they were going to stroll into UGA and beat them. Halfway through the game they had a very different opinion though.

All aside, I hope those making the trip down to the Valley have a safe one. I'd stay away from anywhere in downtown Clemson unless you have the money AND patience. The campus comes alive on football weekends! Lots of traffic all around and many restaurants will be packed as well. If you have the option, tailgate before the game.. It's a much better alternative in my opinion.

Why would you tell anyone to stay away from downtown??? Money? What? Are you trying to take away from the merchants that depend on football sat. to make a living? That's just a dumb post. Money???? LMAO

 

[6forcu]

We can disagree, that's fine. Swinney inherited a great program and has done some nice things while there. Kelly is the better, more complete coach. Swinney's offensive philosophy is really Chad Morris' and his defense was better avg until Brent Venables came in. Dabo is an elite recruiter and an awesome all around face for the Clemson face base. Kelly is both of those as well but he also is his own man. I get the feeling Dabo gets out of the way of his assts while Kelly expects his assts to run things the way he wants them run. Two totally different ways of thinking but Kelly is more proven, has own at every stop (Dabo succeeding whike at Central Michigan and Cincinnati is laughable to me. No way he could do it) and hasn't had the benefit of 2-3 cup cakes every year to pad his record. Frankly, i assumed Dabo's winning % would be higher.

Dabo inherited a great program???????? Is that why we fired our coach mid season? Make no mistake everything runs with Dabo. If you don't have good to great assit. you lose and that's part of being a good head coach. You think Dabo walked into a better program than what kelly was handed?? Unreal

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

Clemson has the most hospitable fan base I've ever been around.

 

[HRC08]

Dabo inherited a great program???????? Is that why we fired our coach mid season? Make no mistake everything runs with Dabo. If you don't have good to great assit. you lose and that's part of being a good head coach. You think Dabo walked into a better program than what kelly was handed?? Unreal

Sensitive bunch... yeah i think Clemson is a good program. Better then the two programs Kelly started with before earning his place at Notre Dame.

 

[clemson_dude04]

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To the Clemson fans who have been frequenting this thread, can any of you recommend a parking lot for next Saturday's game? It would be great if you could direct me to a lot where there will be some tailgating and where we could meet some of the Clemson faithful. Thanks in advance.

I'm a serious tailgater that puts in the time with big groups with TV's, music, etc. and enjoys having a good time on gameday. One thing we do right in Clemson is tailgating. If you are making the trip, invest in getting an IPTAY parking spot (hangtags that have lot #'s or names on them) near the stadium. I would recommend trying to get a spot in Lot 1 or 2. They are grass lots with lights that will be on at night. Lots 3, 3A, 4, 5, 6, Heisman, Centennial, Williamson, etc., are all good lots also. There are others as well. The lots that are close to the stadium are going to be fun. Some lots are "area" lots which means you can park anywhere in the lot and some have specific numbers on them which means you have an assigned parking space. From a person who likes to have fun at tailgates, if you are parking at Y beach or some outer lots, you will completely miss the Clemson tailgating experience. It is worth every penny to get a premium spot here, if you are making the trip. There are more people who tailgate than go in the games and hardly any of those people choose Y beach or parking downtown (you can't tailgate downtown). Public parking near the stadium is scarce and few tailgate in the public lots. Plus, the public lots are a good 20-30 minute walk to the stadium. There are going to be a whole lot of people in Clemson for this game. Do yourself a favor and buy one of these parking spots. Here's a link to the IPTAY parking map.

 

[dcox33]

How anyone could even argue that Dabo Sweeney is in the same category of coaches as Brian Kelly is laughable. Simply comparing records as win/loss does not take into account that ND has played a far more difficult SOS over the same period of time. Brian Kelly is rated by most as a top 5 CFB coach along with Saban, Meyer, Snyder and Stoops while I don't see Dabo as anywhere near the top 10.

Let's be serious.

2-0 against these 2

 

[FSUTribe76]

2-0 against these 2

You can safely ignore that handle, it's one of the Argus clones an infamously crazy (in a serial killer not hahafunny kind of way) individual who creates multiple persona to pretend that people actually agree with his views. He's probably most famous for three things: 1) multiple personality disorder, 2) horrible grammar and 4) a psychotic hatred of FSU which extends to an almost as fervent hatred of the ACC. So no point in arguing with him. Other Irish here are far less insane and might listen to arguments.

Frankly, I think Dabo is a great coach. I think Clemson has far less to work with than FSU so I think he's done a magnificent job.

For example for the last 5 years (so 2010), Jimbo Fisher leads the nation on wins at 61 while Saban is a close second at 60. Number 3 is not Meyers as he took years off due to his own form of craziness, but is Michigan State's Coach at 56. Dabo is a very respectable 51 and Brian Kelly has 48. Considering I think Notre Dame at least has the recruiting resources of Clemson if not better I think Dabo has done a better overall job.

 

[Devildog1983]

Clemson fan all the way.

For those of you who come to Clemson next weekend we hope you have a great time. Tailgate with the best tailgaters in the world, enjoy our beautiful campus, enjoy the beautiful sights and sounds. You will see more beautiful women than you will be able to process.

We say yes sir and yes ma'am. We invite folks to our tailgates and are respectful of them. We take pictures and share them with you for years to come. It truly is "God's Country" and we look forward to seeing you guys here next week.

But make no mistake when the lights come on and those young men get on that bus and ride around the stadium to get off at the top of the hill you will witness the GREATEST 25 SECONDS IN ALL OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

We will fight you with everything we have. Fairly, squarely by the rules but we will do whatever we can to win the game. To be the victor!!!! At the end of the game no matter the outcome we will shake your hands with good sportsmanship.

But be aware.........when we win the game our fans will storm the field like they are giving gold bars away. Our fans are passionate, very passionate and they will create a very HOSTILE environment for you once you are in Death Valley.

Looking forward to a great college football game.....If it gets any better than this I haven't seen it yet.

As we say it here in the south looking forward to seeing YA"LL

 

[TigerNick76]

Clemson fan all the way.

For those of you who come to Clemson next weekend we hope you have a great time. Tailgate with the best tailgaters in the world, enjoy our beautiful campus, enjoy the beautiful sights and sounds. You will see more beautiful women than you will be able to process.

We say yes sir and yes ma'am. We invite folks to our tailgates and are respectful of them. We take pictures and share them with you for years to come. It truly is "God's Country" and we look forward to seeing you guys here next week.

But make no mistake when the lights come on and those young men get on that bus and ride around the stadium to get off at the top of the hill you will witness the GREATEST 25 SECONDS IN ALL OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

We will fight you with everything we have. Fairly, squarely by the rules but we will do whatever we can to win the game. To be the victor!!!! At the end of the game no matter the outcome we will shake your hands with good sportsmanship.

But be aware.........when we win the game our fans will storm the field like they are giving gold bars away. Our fans are passionate, very passionate and they will create a very HOSTILE environment for you once you are in Death Valley.

Looking forward to a great college football game.....If it gets any better than this I haven't seen it yet.

As we say it here in the south looking forward to seeing YA"LL

Couldn't have said it any better.. ND fans, y'all will love it!

 

[HRC08]

Academic smack? Clemson is a top 25 public university. They are usually top ten in player graduation rates and due to strict credit transfer guidelines we cannot accept juco's. Dabo left a WR that starts now for the Steelers home from the LSU bowl game because he skipped a study hall. I assure you our players have to work in the classroom as well as the football field.

Concur. Clemson's a good school. Top students only need apply. A guy I work with has a daughter that is 4th in her class at Bluffton High School and she's sweating getting into Clemson. It's a good school. Move along.