2025 recruiting

[Get Nasty]

Anything?

Last 6 months have been the worst 6 months I can remember for a long time. We’ve landed a couple good players but missed out on some critical needs and have had some huge decommits.

Where does this class go? I know we’re chasing some descent wrs committed at low level schools and going after 2 stud lbs. do we land one or both of the lbs? I get we’re not selling the wr room and why no wrs want to come here.

 

[Golson5]

Faraimo will be deciding sooner than later. We should be in the lead.

NOB probably a December decision

WR recruiting is unknown. The Arizona commit officialed this weekend. There are others who will be in the next 2 months. Richardson the USF commit officialed last weekend. He may still visit Bama though

And the TE/Ath Waverly

No on the last 6 months comment

 

[Get Nasty]

Faraimo will be deciding sooner than later. We should be in the lead.

NOB probably a December decision

WR recruiting is unknown. The Arizona commit officialed this weekend. There are others who will be in the next 2 months. Richardson the USF commit officialed last weekend. He may still visit Bama though

And the TE/Ath Waverly

No on the last 6 months comment

I just can't remember a time where we've needed something (high end WR play) so bad, and lead for 3 really good possibly even studs, and miss on all of them, with no back up plan. Micah looks like someone that can step in and replace beaux next year, can CAM and KK step up as well. Cam has physical gifts no wr on the roster has. If Cam does NOT pan out, our WR room has no shot at being really good. Solid yes. Clearly, if WR wasn't a disaster my feelings on this class would be different even with our top two players in the class decommitting.

 

[Get Nasty]

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Antavious Richadson commits, I like his potential, but he has a long ways to go.

 

[Golson5]

I just can't remember a time where we've needed something (high end WR play) so bad, and lead for 3 really good possibly even studs, and miss on all of them, with no back up plan. Micah looks like someone that can step in and replace beaux next year, can CAM and KK step up as well. Cam has physical gifts no wr on the roster has. If Cam does NOT pan out, our WR room has no shot at being really good. Solid yes. Clearly, if WR wasn't a disaster my feelings on this class would be different even with our top two players in the class decommitting.

At the time you didn't think the 1 guy was a stud. Actually you didn't even like him. But he didn't commit and now you say stud

 

[Telx1]

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Antavious Richadson commits, I like his potential, but he has a long ways to go.

I love his potential, and not sure about such a long ways to go. The kid plays qb, and linebacker, and returns all punts and kicks. He’ll be either the fastest or minimally top three speed receiver at ND the minute he steps on campus. He has an overabundance of natural athletic talent, but we’ve never seen him play receiver. If he’s really coachable and dedicates himself to learning the position, and enrolls early, then I think we got ourselves one hell of a dynamic playmaker.

 

[Get Nasty]

At the time you didn't think the 1 guy was a stud. Actually you didn't even like him. But he didn't commit and now you say stud

I said the #1 guy didn’t have any good film… that changed and I changed … I gave credit for nd getting on him early, but they obviously couldn’t close once he actually had good film

I’ve changed tune a few times as film changes… price being another

More times than not, if you’re not great by jr year of HS you won’t be great sr year

 

[Golson5]

I said the #1 guy didn’t have any good film… that changed and I changed … I gave credit for nd getting on him early, but they obviously couldn’t close once he actually had good film

I’ve changed tune a few times as film changes… price being another

More times than not, if you’re not great by jr year of HS you won’t be great sr year

That was one of them but the other guy you didn't like was Robinson who went to Washington.

You didn't like him either. Is he now a stud?

We've had a lot of players that were okay juniors who were much better as seniors. Burress in this class is just one example

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

Nothing against Freeman and staff, as I'm sure they're recruiting their butts off. But once again, it appears they will have a very good/respectable class, but still missing out on the elite talent needed to compete. Losing Ivan Taylor really hurt. Missing out on top WRs Tayln Taylor and D. Meadows really hurt. Adding NOB and Faramio would be huge and soften the blow, but they're still missing the Nix/Tuitt/Tillery/Tuck type of d-lineman. They need to do everything they can to hold on to D. Knight for the class and beyond, as I suspect he'll be one step away from transferring.

 

[ZibbyQuinn]

Nothing against Freeman and staff, as I'm sure they're recruiting their butts off. But once again, it appears they will have a very good/respectable class, but still missing out on the elite talent needed to compete. Losing Ivan Taylor really hurt. Missing out on top WRs Tayln Taylor and D. Meadows really hurt. Adding NOB and Faramio would be huge and soften the blow, but they're still missing the Nix/Tuitt/Tillery/Tuck type of d-lineman. They need to do everything they can to hold on to D. Knight for the class and beyond, as I suspect he'll be one step away from transferring.

Not super concerned with Deuce, / won’t behoove the old rankings but there’s bigger gaps to fill on this team outside of QB..DL and WR stand out, super concerned about the future of the DL..Will Hinish/Onye start next year? Wh is in the 2 deep?

 

[Get Nasty]

That was one of them but the other guy you didn't like was Robinson who went to Washington.

You didn't like him either. Is he now a stud?

We've had a lot of players that were okay juniors who were much better as seniors. Burress in this class is just one example

Robinson I don’t feel is good or a stud wr, everyone else feels the same even him that’s why he’s going to play defense in college

 

[Get Nasty]

Nothing against Freeman and staff, as I'm sure they're recruiting their butts off. But once again, it appears they will have a very good/respectable class, but still missing out on the elite talent needed to compete. Losing Ivan Taylor really hurt. Missing out on top WRs Tayln Taylor and D. Meadows really hurt. Adding NOB and Faramio would be huge and soften the blow, but they're still missing the Nix/Tuitt/Tillery/Tuck type of d-lineman. They need to do everything they can to hold on to D. Knight for the class and beyond, as I suspect he'll be one step away from transferring.

Yes Dline is probably the most concerning position group going into year 4 of freeman next year (so pretty much means all his recruits) … unless we crush the portal at dl next year, that group could hold us back big time

 

[Golson5]

Robinson I don’t feel is good or a stud wr, everyone else feels the same even him that’s why he’s going to play defense in college

Who were the 3 studs you were referring to that we missed in the summer

 

[Golson5]

Yes Dline is probably the most concerning position group going into year 4 of freeman next year (so pretty much means all his recruits) … unless we crush the portal at dl next year, that group could hold us back big time

Traore Young Thomas Burnham Botelho (if he comes back) Junior is a very talented athletic long DE rotation. 6 man rotation

DT will be Onye Rubio Hinish Mukam Sevillano any other DTs on the roster who could develop like Vernon Mullins

We'll have a good talented DL next year if players come back and are healthy

We may go to the portal for 1 to 2 guys inside. Maybe 1 impact player and 1 solid role player

 

[Telx1]

Traore Young Thomas Burnham Botelho (if he comes back) Junior is a very talented athletic long DE rotation. 6 man rotation

DT will be Onye Rubio Hinish Mukam Sevillano any other DTs on the roster who could develop like Vernon Mullins

We'll have a good talented DL next year if players come back and are healthy

We may go to the portal for 1 to 2 guys inside. Maybe 1 impact player and 1 solid role player

Agree re ends. Should be better than our injury decimated ends this year, and better than the Oben bust. Re DT, Think maybe Rubio and Mukam will start. Onye is really good, but inconsistent. Anxious to see Sevillano get some meaningful play. Vernon is a bit of a quandary, and Hinish just lacks size. Cross has disappointed thus far, and Mills is playing about like last year…good but not elite. Overall, I don’t see any decline next year from this year’s DL, but that’s a lower bar due to injuries and less than what we expected from the middle this year.

 

[Get Nasty]

Traore Young Thomas Burnham Botelho (if he comes back) Junior is a very talented athletic long DE rotation. 6 man rotation

DT will be Onye Rubio Hinish Mukam Sevillano any other DTs on the roster who could develop like Vernon Mullins

We'll have a good talented DL next year if players come back and are healthy

We may go to the portal for 1 to 2 guys inside. Maybe 1 impact player and 1 solid role player

The ends can be good if Traore and Botelho are healthy, i don't think you can count on that coming off probably major surgery

The DTs haven't played well this year being rested with limited reps, or they're not good enough to play at all this year. I just don't see how our interior dline is good unless 2 of mukam, sevillano, maybe vernon become good. It's not going to be hinish, onye has a role but struggles vs the run a bit.

 

[Golson5]

The ends can be good if Traore and Botelho are healthy, i don't think you can count on that coming off probably major surgery

The DTs haven't played well this year being rested with limited reps, or they're not good enough to play at all this year. I just don't see how our interior dline is good unless 2 of mukam, sevillano, maybe vernon become good. It's not going to be hinish, onye has a role but struggles vs the run a bit.

Onye has been as good as Mills this year

 

[Get Nasty]

Onye has been as good as Mills this year

I agree on paper, disagree on impact. Mills is the only one on the interior DL that's pushing the line back giving our LBs gaps to make plays and stuff runs. onye hinish and cross are capable of shooting gaps better than mills, but they are getting blown off the ball a lot.

 

[Telx1]

getting blown off the ball a lot. Yes!!!

 

[Golson5]

I agree on paper, disagree on impact. Mills is the only one on the interior DL that's pushing the line back giving our LBs gaps to make plays and stuff runs. onye hinish and cross are capable of shooting gaps better than mills, but they are getting blown off the ball a lot.

Mills hasn't done much of anything. Onye is better in pass rush

 

[Get Nasty]

Mills hasn't done much of anything. Onye is better in pass rush

Yep, he's doing slightly better. But run D is our bigger issue, and it's at its worst when Onye/Hinish are in the middle.

 

[Telx1]

Faraimo will be deciding sooner than later. We should be in the lead.

NOB probably a December decision

WR recruiting is unknown. The Arizona commit officialed this weekend. There are others who will be in the next 2 months. Richardson the USF commit officialed last weekend. He may still visit Bama though

And the TE/Ath Waverly

No on the last 6 months comment

I’ve read we only plan on taking one more receiver. Personally, I would take both Mizell and Cooper if they want to commit, and strongly consider moving Bettis to safety if numbers is an issue. DB commit Zachary is having great year as both DB and WR. He might be an insurance policy if wr needs outweigh db needs in this class.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

Ford and Gobaira not working out really hurt. I thought they were huge gets in the recruiting trail and had Tuitt/Tuck potential. This underscores why recruiting is so tough. Just because you have a great year recruiting a position group, doesn't mean you'll have a great outcome. It just increases your chances of it.

 

[Get Nasty]

Ford and Gobaira not working out really hurt. I thought they were huge gets in the recruiting trail and had Tuitt/Tuck potential. This underscores why recruiting is so tough. Just because you have a great year recruiting a position group, doesn't mean you'll have a great outcome. It just increases your chances of it.

Agree on all fronts other than I didn't see tuitt/tuck out of either of them. I did think Gobaira was going to be a big time player, and maybe he would have been without the catstrophic injury. Ford didn't have the motor i'd like to see.

Also, you don't get your local 5 star Justin Scott who is getting some early PT and looks like a potential lock to start for miami in the future.

 

[IrishMike409]

Agree on all fronts other than I didn't see tuitt/tuck out of either of them. I did think Gobaira was going to be a big time player, and maybe he would have been without the catstrophic injury. Ford didn't have the motor i'd like to see.

Also, you don't get your local 5 star Justin Scott who is getting some early PT and looks like a potential lock to start for miami in the future.

Justin Scott wasn't going to ND. That was such an incredible long shot.

 

[Get Nasty]

Justin Scott wasn't going to ND. That was such an incredible long shot.

I don't know. He was going to commit and freeman told him not to because he didn't think he was ready.

It became an absolute long shot, but I also have no doubt we were his leader early on. It all changed on a trip Washington did or didn't make to visit him, can't remember the full story.

 

[Golson5]

I don't know. He was going to commit and freeman told him not to because he didn't think he was ready.

It became an absolute long shot, but I also have no doubt we were his leader early on. It all changed on a trip Washington did or didn't make to visit him, can't remember the full story.

When NIL and money came into the picture he was gone. Basically no shot.

Freeman was right. He wasn't ready and he would have decommitted later in the process

Chicago kid going to Miami as a 5 star tells you everything you need to know

 

[Get Nasty]

When NIL and money came into the picture he was gone. Basically no shot.

Freeman was right. He wasn't ready and he would have decommitted later in the process

Chicago kid going to Miami as a 5 star tells you everything you need to know

Interesting we can’t do that with qbs

 

[Golson5]

Interesting we can’t do that with qbs

Carr and Deuce are getting/will be getting a ton of money

 

[Get Nasty]

Carr and Deuce are getting/will be getting a ton of money

No I mean, no when the Batman is taking our recruit… it was obvious 3-4 months ago deuce wasn’t coming… the question is did nd have a backup ready, we will see soon

 

[BGI User 1596]

No I mean, no when the Batman is taking our recruit… it was obvious 3-4 months ago deuce wasn’t coming… the question is did nd have a backup ready, we will see soon

No

 

[dmaw]

Is this really NIL related? If so, why wouldn’t Notre Dame match their offer?

 

[Golson5]

Is this really NIL related? If so, why wouldn’t Notre Dame match their offer?

Do you know what it was? You can't just throw money around like that of someone wants to overpay. That's bad business and bad for the team

 

[Rockne's Rambler]

Is this really NIL related? If so, why wouldn’t Notre Dame match their offer?

Obviously because ND didn't think he was worth matching their offer.

 

[Golson5]

No I mean, no when the Batman is taking our recruit… it was obvious 3-4 months ago deuce wasn’t coming… the question is did nd have a backup ready, we will see soon

4 guys being talked about now. ND has been talking with them since the summer

 

[Get Nasty]

4 guys being talked about now. ND has been talking with them since the summer

I’m watching dude from NC… I’ve seen him play in person

 

[Golson5]

I’m watching dude from NC… I’ve seen him play in person

Who is that?

 

[Get Nasty]

Who is that?

Bryce Baker

 

[Telx1]

Bryce Baker

Probably number one on my list, not that it matters.

 

[Get Nasty]

Probably number one on my list, not that it matters.

Yep, seems like a good kid, about winning, talented, physically mature.