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2022 Notre Dame Recruiting (Long)

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This is my second 2022 recruiting update. My first one was a "names to know" type post. This time, however, I want to focus on some of the players that I think ND has a better than 50/50 chance of landing at this point. This is really early in the 2022 cycle and a lot of things can change. Visits won't be happening until the spring at the earliest, and might not even be allowed until the summer, or when games start up next year. That said, it's always cool to take an early look at some guys and look back later to see if I guessed with any degree of accuracy. I expect the 2022 class to be small in nature. My expectation is that the NCAA is going to institute the one time transfer policy, with immediate eligibility. Because of that change, I expect teams (Notre Dame included) to lose guys more often, and more importantly, take more developed players, from lesser programs, on the regular. We'll see how that plays out, but I think ND will prepare to supplement their roster in that way.

Here is a list of some guys to know...

QB Steve Angeli (Westfield, NJ, Bergen Catholic): Angeli has a host of early offers, including Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan, LSU, Miami, Penn State, etc. He's already a big kid at 6'2-6'3 and 200+lbs, he has a well above average arm and he has enough athleticism to move the pocket, makes some plays in space and move the chains with his legs as a last resort. He's not the runner Ian Book is in terms of change of direction, but picture a player in the mold of Joe Burrow. A pass first player, at his best in the pocket, who can run when the the situation calls for it. While I don't think he's going to make public a decision anytime soon, ultimately, Angeli, who Rees is targeting aggressively, is the guy I see ND landing as their 2022 pivot. A really nice follow up to Tyler Buchner as Notre Dame strives to create more competition in the quarterback room. I've long said that I'm not a fan of Drew Pyne's game and I ultimately expect him to transfer, however, I was wrong about Ian Book, so I might be again. Regardless, Angeli has the skill set and appears to have the intangibles to be an eventual high end starter.

OG Joey Tanona (Zionsville, IN, Zionsville): Tanona is already committed to Notre Dame and I don't see that changing. at 6'4-6'5, 290+lbs, he has the type of frame you're looking for. Expect Tanona to be another one of the ND OL that plays at 310+lbs. At the time he committed to Notre Dame Tanona had all the regional offers you want to see. Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Iowa and Wisconsin were all in pursuit and he was beginning to become a national recruit as well, with schools like LSU and Tennessee throwing their hats in the ring. While he plays tackle in high school, he's an obvious fit at OG in Notre Dame's system. Brian Kelly loves to take high school offensive tackles who lack elite athleticism and move them inside. Once in a while you get a freak like Quenten Nelson, or Aaron Banks, who could play guard or tackle at a high level, but that's not Tanona. He's a nasty guard through and through. If you want a player comparison, he reminds me a lot of former ND OL Christian Lombard, before the injuries. A guy with NFL upside if he stays healthy and isn't recruited over. He should definitely contribute during his ND career and projects as a potential starter on the interior.

OT Jake Taylor (Las Vegas, NV, Bishop Gorman): Taylor is classic ND type OL. He comes from an excellent football school, has ideal measurables to play right tackle and could easily slide inside and play guard as well. ND loves these types and I think they'll do everything they can to get Taylor in the class. Listed at 6'5, 275lbs, Taylor has quite a bit of work to do in the weight room before he could compete among ND offensive linemen, but he's well coached and he would likely show up in South Bend much more advanced than most of his competition. Taylor reports early offers from schools such as Notre Dame, Michigan, Oklahoma, Penn State, USC, as well as pretty much the entire Pac-12. In watching his film he strikes me as a kid that is currently underrated, despite being a mid range 4 star. I think he has tremendous upside and he actually kind of reminds me of Jarrett Patterson, who was also physically overwhelmed earlier in his ND career, but is proving to be an excellent player after a few seasons in the weight room with Matt Balis. I'm not sure who the primary competition is going to wind up being for Taylor. Maybe Oklahoma and USC?... Regardless, this is a kid that I want ND to take as a part of any 4 man class. There are a lot of guys ranked higher than him currently that I'd take Taylor over without hesitation.

OT / OG Ty Chan (Groton, MA, Lawrence Academy): Chan profiles perfectly for Notre Dame. The Irish offered early and he's an excellent fit academically. The only thing that I think could stop Chan from committing is if Notre Dame decides that he is exclusively a guard and chooses another prospect over him as the second interior player in the class along with Tanona. That said, at 6'4+ and approximately 270lbs, Chan also looks like he could project as a top flight center prospect. Although he plays tackle in high school, I think he's a reach to play that position at the next level. Maybe he winds up able to play RT, but I definitely don't see a LT here. Chan's offer list is what you'd expect from a Mass kid. Notre Dame, Michigan, Penn State, Boston College, Duke, etc. Maybe not some of the national powers that you'd like to see, but if you're taking a 4 man class and you're recruiting Chan the be the 4th player in that class, he's a more than acceptable take, with quality upside. I struggled to add this name to the list because ND recruits really well on the OL and think he winds up being a backup option as Notre Dame goes hard after top 100 types Zack Rice, Gunner Givens and Jacob Allen, but I'm going to leave him here for now, until I see some positive movement from one of those guys. Don't count Chan in at this point, but I like where ND stands should they push.

OG Grant Bingham (Paintsville KY, Johnson Central): Bingham is a guy who has recently soared up ND's list of targets. Listed at 6'6 and over 300lbs, he's already a big kid and his film shows weight that isn't poorly distributed at this point. Bingham projects to me a mauler of a guard and he has the frame to play in that 310-320lb range. I really like where ND stands with him already. Bingham has a lot of good things to say about Notre Dame and is really impressed by the OL that ND produces, seemingly every year. In state Kentucky will probably be the biggest challenger in the Bingham recruitment, but he also reports offers from Michigan and a smattering of SEC and ACC schools. He already visited Notre Dame last year, so he's been to campus and knows what he would be getting into. Right now I see him as a stronger run blocker than pass protector and he's not a guy that I think would play early. What you would be hoping for is a better version of Dillon Gibbons, and the #4 man in a 4 man class. In my opinion, I wouldn't take Bingham and Ty Chan in the same class, therefore, it could come down to these two for that coveted 4th spot.

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TE Jack Nickel (Alpharetta, GA, Milton): Nickel is committed. Nickel is a Georgia kid. I love Georgia kids. I'll take allllllllll of the Georgia kids because they play such a high level of high school football that they almost always show up in college much more advanced than players from a lot of other regions. That said, I'm not as pumped about Nickel as some are. I'm saying I don't think he's a good player, I'm simply a believer that Notre Dame should be able to get an elite tight end in nearly every cycle and I don't see Nickel as that. What do I think he is? I think he projects to be much like current ND TE Brock Wright, a kid who is an above average blocker and capable pass catcher, but lacks the elite athleticism of a Michael Mayer and doesn't possess the 6'6-6'7 frame that you'd like to see out of a kid who isn't an explosive type (see Mitchell Evans). Nickel has some quality offers, there is no doubt about that. Schools such as Notre Dame, LSU, Miami, Florida State, Oregon and Wisconsin have all offered him a spot in their class, therefore, it's fare to say that he's a national recruit. That said, I think Notre Dame winds up recruiting over him and he eventually becomes a quality depth player / #3 TE type. I hope I'm wrong and he proves to be a beast. I'll be the first one on here eating my crow. His film simply does not wow me and there were some excellent TE's at the top of this class that I had hoped ND would go after. JMO.

WR Reggie Fleurima (Naperville, IL, Naperville Central): Fleurima is probably the biggest question mark on this list because Notre Dame hasn't offered yet. At his point Notre Dame has other WR higher on their list, but I'll be shocked if the Irish legacy doesn't wind up in the class eventually. Fleurima reports early offers from all the Big 10 schools with the exception of Michigan and Ohio State, but has not yet become a national recruit. At 6'2, 200+lbs an apt comparison for Fleurima in terms of frame and skill set, is Javon Mckinley. He's very well put together, is a weight room junkie and he projects to be a boundary receiver at Notre Dame. Do I think Fleurima will ultimately be a difference maker? I'm not sure. I didn't think Miles Boykin would be and although it was only for one year, he ultimately proved me wrong. Fleurima projects as an excellent rotation player, who could wind up working his way into a key role. If Notre Dame is taking 3 WRs every year, I'm ok with them taking a guy like this. Jaylen Thomas and Jay Brunelle were those types in previous classes. If Fleurima is the #3 man in the 2022 class, ND will have landed an excellent group. Given where Notre Dame is with some of the other top WRs on the board, I'd offer today and accept his commitment as soon as he offers it. This is a kid that is going to fit the ND culture perfectly and he'll be an excellent team guy.

DT KJ Miles (Jersey City, NJ, St. Peters Prep): Miles is a really interesting prospect because plays a lot of defensive end, but projects to be a big time defensive tackle in college. ND is going back to the St. Peters well yet again and the 6'3+, 260+lber is worth the effort. Miles reports offers from schools such as Notre Dame, Michigan, Alabama, Tennessee, Wisconsin, etc, but I ultimately think he has too many ties to Notre Dame and will end up being the lone interior player that Mike Elston recruits in the class, unless he pulls his head out of his butt on Caden Curry, who is going to go to Ohio State and dominate. Getting back to Miles, I think he'll be an excellent addition to a deep DT / NG group at ND. I don't know that I ever think he'll be a full time starter, but the ND defensive staff loves to rotate 4-5 bodies through the interior each game and I'm more than comfortable projecting Miles into that group down the road.

SDE Tyson Ford (St. Louis, MO, John Burroughs High School): Ford has early offers from schools such as Notre Dame, Michigan and Texas A&M. While he plays WDE in high school, at 6'4-6'5, 240+lbs he's going to outgrow the position in short order. Ford's frame will remind you a lot of Isaiah Foskey and he's a similarly excellent athlete. The big offers are going to continue to pour in for Ford, However, Mike Elston made him a key target early and I think he's going to wind up being the jewel of what I project to be a smaller, 3 man DL class that includes 1x SDE (Ford), 1x WDE and 1x DT / NG. Ford is the type of player that has the skill set to play early. Don't be surprised if he's a rocked up, 260lb'er as early as his sophomore year. He's one of those guys with a dream frame for Matt Balis.

Rover / Buck Sebastian Cheeks (Evanston, Illinois, Evanston Township): Cheeks is one of my favorite players in the 2020 cycle that I think ND has a really good chance of landing. Notre Dame is going to sell him on being the next JOK and that's going to be powerful in his recruitment. Cheeks stands approximately 6'2 and is listed at 200lbs, but looks like he's about 185-190lbs right now on film. Those guys project as excellent rovers and while I don't believe Clark Lea will be in South Bend to coach Cheeks, if ND keeps the scheme intact for the most part, I expect him to develop into an impact player. The great thing about Cheeks is that while he has the athleticism to play rover, if he keeps growing, he could also wind up as a 230lb Buck linebacker. Time will tell how big he gets, but I want him in this class and I think he's going to be. As far as offers go, Notre Dame, Michigan and most of the Midwest are in pursuit, as are Texas and academic powers Stanford and Northwestern.

Rover / Buck Nolan Ziegler (Grand Rapids, MI, Catholic Central): Ziegler is the definition of a Clark Lea recruit. It's a damn shame Lea probably won't be at Notre Dame to coach him, because he's the swiss army knife, Drue Tranquill type that Lea loves to coach and develop. At 6'3, 200lbs, Ziegler plays safety / a variation of rover in high school and where he ends up playing at Notre Dame will be a development that is fun to watch. I'm projecting Ziegler to step foot on campus in the 215lb range and to start off at rover because of his coverage skills. He's also an excellent tackler and even shows a knack to blitz. That sounds like a rover to me. That said, Clark Lea and Matt Balis have an awesome habit of taking guys like Tranquill and more recently, Jacks Kiser, adding a coat of armor to them via the weight room and turning them into 230lb mobile Buck linebackers that hit, run and cover the tight end into the boundary. Ziegler is going to be one of your favorite players in the class and has the makeup of a future team captain. He has deep family ties to Notre Dame football. Despite an early offer list and a star ranking that aren't overly impressive, this kid is a classic case of a player that looks way better on film than he is currently ranked, and is unlikely to move up the rankings much because he'll be so solid to Notre Dame throughout the process that he's unlikely to get a serious second / third look from the talent evaluators. Rest easy though star junkies. Unless injuries strike, I can near promise you that Ziegler is going to be a good one, wherever his genetics take him during his 5 years at Notre Dame. I'll tell you where he's a shoe in to start. Special teams. He's going to be a force on that unit early in his career.

ILB Tevarua Tafiti (Honolulu, HI, Punahou): Tafiti is next in the long line of excellent Polynesian linebackers to come out of Punahou. Notre Dame is going to be a finalist (along with Utah) for his 2021 teammate, Kuhanu Kia and I'd be surprised if ND doesn't eventually land him. While I like Kia's game, Tafiti has much higher upside, IMO. He's listed at 6'2-6'3, 210lbs already, and like most Polynesians, he's going to be a thick kid that can really run. Tafiti projects to be a Mike backer through and through and I think he'll wind up being ND's top target at the position in the 2022 class. With early offers from Notre Dame, Michigan, Oregon, Washington, Stanford, etc, I expect his recruitment to be a classic West Coast vs Notre Dame battle. Brian Polian is already all over him and I'm going to optimistically project ND to win out after Tafiti visits. With guys like Botelho, Liufau and Kia on the roster next year, I think Tafiti will find Notre Dame a comfortable landing spot, despite being a long way from home. I'm not projecting Manti Te'o here, but I'd be shocked if he isn't an eventual starter and an All Conference caliber contributor. The kid has fantastic film and a great frame.

There you have it! 12 guys that I think ND has an awesome shot of landing in this class, unless they decide to go in other directions (which is certainly possible). Given that I think it's going to be a small class, don't be surprised if the above names makes up between 50-66% of the final group when all is said and done. There are some definite impact players among those listed, however, I do hope that ND can land a true top 100 type OT, a talented running back who see's what Williams and Tyree are doing this year, a difference making WR and of course, as always, I have no idea who they are going to land in the secondary at this time of year. Don't expect a top 5 class. Given the small group they'll take and the players that they are currently in on, that isn't in the cards. I think they'll hold serve in that #9-#13 range, however, unless some huge names become realistic throughout the cycle.
 
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great thought process. A few I would add that are somewhat likely; Nicholas Singleton.[I am sure he is seeing how Taylor utilizes RBs]. Hinzman and Schrauth both might get pulled out of Wisconsin by ND. Not out of the possibility.Cyrus Moss LB could be an x factor depending on how well ND does with other LB. Jake Pope S,Dillon Tatum ATH, Larry-Turner Gooden ATH, Kevin Coleman WR,Wilfredo Aybar[I like Hamm better] ARE just a few more in play. I would like to say Kaleb Brown and Tyler Morris too but that is a 50/50. My wish list includes Xavier Nwankpa,Toriano Pride,William Johnson,Eli King Probably need to find Kicker/punter here in this class too.
 
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Thanks IIO, as always, thoughtful and thorough. Any 5* Hail Mary predictions in the cycle?
 
Not overwhelmed by the Miles kid personally----but he has another year to develop.
 
The mystery that is ND's DB recruiting continues. I dont get it
I've read a few articles about Kelly not giving talented WR's a fair chance to show their stuff. I hope he's not getting a reputation in recruiting circles.
I would love to land an every down back to compliment Tyree. Not sure why they are not in it for the top backs. Taylor was s good hire so maybe next cycle?
I've been hard on Quinn maybe too hard?
I agree on Lea. I wonder if the loyal soldier that is Elston will get the job or will ND open the search?
Thanks ad always for the post
 
The mystery that is ND's DB recruiting continues. I dont get it
I've read a few articles about Kelly not giving talented WR's a fair chance to show their stuff. I hope he's not getting a reputation in recruiting circles.
I would love to land an every down back to compliment Tyree. Not sure why they are not in it for the top backs. Taylor was s good hire so maybe next cycle?
I've been hard on Quinn maybe too hard?
I agree on Lea. I wonder if the loyal soldier that is Elston will get the job or will ND open the search?
Thanks ad always for the post
We got 3 good wrs in the 21 class and 2 good ones in the 20 class. Doesn't seem to be hurting us too much.

Taylor landed Tyree and Diggs. Some like Diggs more than Shipley. Not saying I do but I've heard that. We are in a bunch of good ones in 22. Singleton is a name to watch.

I think Lea will be here next year. Not many job openings due to COVID. Unless Vanderbilt job opens up
 
great thought process. A few I would add that are somewhat likely; Nicholas Singleton.[I am sure he is seeing how Taylor utilizes RBs]. Hinzman and Schrauth both might get pulled out of Wisconsin by ND. Not out of the possibility.Cyrus Moss LB could be an x factor depending on how well ND does with other LB. Jake Pope S,Dillon Tatum ATH, Larry-Turner Gooden ATH, Kevin Coleman WR,Wilfredo Aybar[I like Hamm better] ARE just a few more in play. I would like to say Kaleb Brown and Tyler Morris too but that is a 50/50. My wish list includes Xavier Nwankpa,Toriano Pride,William Johnson,Eli King Probably need to find Kicker/punter here in this class too.

I'm pretty sure Hinzman and Schrauth will ultimately end up at Wisconsin. I thought ND was going to land Schrauth, but I don't know if that's going to happen anymore, which is why I left him off my list. I think Hinzman is no more than a 10% chance. Not happening.

As far as running backs go, Damari Alston and Nick Singleton are both at or near the top of ND's list along with Gavin Sawchuck. That said, I'm not ready to predict any of them to ND, which is why they didn't make my list this time around.

I like your wishlist, but here is mine (if the goal is to find impact players)...

RB: Gavin Sawchuk
RB: Nicholas Singleton
RB: George Pettaway
WR: Tyler Morris
OT: Zack Rice
OT: Gunner Givens
OT: Jacob Allen
OT: Addison Nichols
OT: Kenji Swanson
DT: Caden Curry
DT / SDE: Dametrius Walker
SDE: Derrick Moore
Rover: Moses Walker
CB: Will Johnson
CB: Keenan Nelson Jr
CB: Isaac Thompson
CB: Fabian Ross
CB: Jayden Bellamy
CB / S: Jaeden Gould
ATH: Keon Sabb
S: Zion Branch
S: Myles Rowser
 
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Not overwhelmed by the Miles kid personally----but he has another year to develop.

He's a long way from what he could be. If he plays a meaningful role at the next level, it will be as a 6'3, 290lb defensive tackle, 3+ years from now. Notre Dame doesn't need him to come to South Bend and make an impact right away. He has lots of time ahead of him to develop his raw tools.
 
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The mystery that is ND's DB recruiting continues. I dont get it
I've read a few articles about Kelly not giving talented WR's a fair chance to show their stuff. I hope he's not getting a reputation in recruiting circles.
I would love to land an every down back to compliment Tyree. Not sure why they are not in it for the top backs. Taylor was s good hire so maybe next cycle?
I've been hard on Quinn maybe too hard?
I agree on Lea. I wonder if the loyal soldier that is Elston will get the job or will ND open the search?
Thanks ad always for the post

It think they're in on a couple top backs. There is a trio of top flight guys in Virginia and Notre Dame is recruiting two of them. They also love Gavin Sawchuk and are recruiting him hard. I thik he'll be an Oklahoma, Michigan, ND battle. Damari Alston is another kid they think is super underrated as if now (mid range 4 star). He has offers from Alabama, Auburn, Florida, USC, Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Oregon, Florida State, Miami, Texas A&M, Penn State, etc, among his 42 total atm.
 
We got 3 good wrs in the 21 class and 2 good ones in the 20 class. Doesn't seem to be hurting us too much.

Taylor landed Tyree and Diggs. Some like Diggs more than Shipley. Not saying I do but I've heard that. We are in a bunch of good ones in 22. Singleton is a name to watch.

I think Lea will be here next year. Not many job openings due to COVID. Unless Vanderbilt job opens up

I think Vandy is going to open up and he's going to be right at the top of their list. That's an obvious take for him.

My next question is whether or not Kelly makes an internal hire to replace Lea and simply puts Nick Lyzinsky on staff full time as the linebackers coach, for the sake of staff continuity.
 
I think Vandy is going to open up and he's going to be right at the top of their list. That's an obvious take for him.

My next question is whether or not Kelly makes an internal hire to replace Lea and simply puts Nick Lyzinsky on staff full time as the linebackers coach, for the sake of staff continuity.
I think that would be a bad move for Clark. Vanderbilt is terrible and Tenn and Kentucky are getting better. They have to play Georgia and Florida every year. At best, he's looking at 7 wins a season.

I don't know what Kelly will do but Id be surprised if Lea didn't try to take Lyzinsky with him.
 
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I think Vandy is going to open up and he's going to be right at the top of their list. That's an obvious take for him.

My next question is whether or not Kelly makes an internal hire to replace Lea and simply puts Nick Lyzinsky on staff full time as the linebackers coach, for the sake of staff continuity.
Lyzinski would be a no brainer for a promotion. Everything I've read about him has been positive. He knows how to coach, he relates well to the players and is willing to do work on the recruiting trail.
Cooks is still around the program as well. He's probably looking for another shot at a full time slot
The more I type, the more I think Elston would be a solid choice to replace Lea!
 
Lyzinski would be a no brainer for a promotion. Everything I've read about him has been positive. He knows how to coach, he relates well to the players and is willing to do work on the recruiting trail.
Cooks is still around the program as well. He's probably looking for another shot at a full time slot
The more I type, the more I think Elston would be a solid choice to replace Lea!
I want Elston to do what he does best and stay in that position. Coach up the DL and recruit. Moving him to DC may effect that area and I think that would be a mistake
 
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I want Elston to do what he does best and stay in that position. Coach up the DL and recruit. Moving him to DC may effect that area and I think that would be a mistake
I get what you're saying! BUT how will Elston react to being past over again if he wants the job? He's a true pro but it would have too hurt. I assume you are in favor of going outside the program? I think continuity would be the way to go. Thoughts.....?
 
I get what you're saying! BUT how will Elston react to being past over again if he wants the job? He's a true pro but it would have too hurt. I assume you are in favor of going outside the program? I think continuity would be the way to go. Thoughts.....?
I think if hes stayed with Kelly this long he must be content. I believe hes already associate head coach so thats a nice title to have. You can always give him another raise. Look at a guy like Larry Johnson who has an amzing track record but not a DC. I think that might be Elston.

I dont know what Id do but Id definitely have interviews from inside and outside the program and pick the best available
 
what I'm hoping for is that if ND's lone loss (or losses) is / are to Clemson, or best case scenario, they're able to split, that some of thr top talent in thr Atlantic region, places like North Carolina, Virginia and Maryland, will give ND an extra look this year. I'm hoping ND can build on what should be another successful year and pull a couple extra high end athletes. It's unlikely they are going to steal bunch of guys from the likes of Alabama, Clemson, Georgia and Ohio State, but if they can pull some of the studs that would otherwise end up at FSU, Florida, North Carolina, Tennessee, Miami, Auburn, Texas A&M, the schools Notre Dame routinely out performs, 2022 could be a sneaky good class.

I'm not asking for a miracle, or 10+ players that ND wouldn't traditionally land, that's unrealistic. But can they land 3-4 guys that generally profile for other schools, but have what it takes to make it at Notre Dame.

Here is a theoretical example of what I'm talking about...

QB: Steve Angeli
RB: Nick Singleton or Damari Alston
WR: Tyler Morris
WR: Andre Greene Jr
TE: Jack Nickel
OL: Gunner Givens
OL: Jacob Allen
OL: Kenji Swanson
OL: Joey Tanona
DE: Tyson Ford
DT: K.J. Miles
Vyper: Jalon Walker
Rover: Nolan Ziegler
Buck: Sebastien Cheeks or Auston Jackson
Mike: Tavarua Tafiti
CB: Isaac Thompson
CB: Fabian Ross
S: Myles Rowser

I'd be very happy with an 18 man class that looked like that!
 
I think Vandy is going to open up and he's going to be right at the top of their list. That's an obvious take for him.

My next question is whether or not Kelly makes an internal hire to replace Lea and simply puts Nick Lyzinsky on staff full time as the linebackers coach, for the sake of staff continuity.

Obvious take ?

A job that is undoable is an obvious take ?

Why ?
 
Look at who he played on his crossover games.

Combine that with playing a ridiculously easy OOC schedule.

Not to minimize it as it was a great accomplishment but it's harder now with the SEC going to a 9 game schedule and Kentucky and Tenn programs in a much better place .

Now----can you blame anyone for taking a 17-18 million dollar 5 year gig and living in a nice place ?

No not at all-----but getting your head kicked in on the majority of your Saturdays for 4-5 years has to be considered.

I know a kid that plays there----he loves it but their facilities aren't in the same solar system as the typical SEC school and the academics are a grind.

Football isn't important at Vandy.



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what I'm hoping for is that if ND's lone loss (or losses) is / are to Clemson, or best case scenario, they're able to split, that some of thr top talent in thr Atlantic region, places like North Carolina, Virginia and Maryland, will give ND an extra look this year. I'm hoping ND can build on what should be another successful year and pull a couple extra high end athletes. It's unlikely they are going to steal bunch of guys from the likes of Alabama, Clemson, Georgia and Ohio State, but if they can pull some of the studs that would otherwise end up at FSU, Florida, North Carolina, Tennessee, Miami, Auburn, Texas A&M, the schools Notre Dame routinely out performs, 2022 could be a sneaky good class.

I'm not asking for a miracle, or 10+ players that ND wouldn't traditionally land, that's unrealistic. But can they land 3-4 guys that generally profile for other schools, but have what it takes to make it at Notre Dame.

Here is a theoretical example of what I'm talking about...

QB: Steve Angeli
RB: Nick Singleton or Damari Alston
WR: Tyler Morris
WR: Andre Greene Jr
TE: Jack Nickel
OL: Gunner Givens
OL: Jacob Allen
OL: Kenji Swanson
OL: Joey Tanona
DE: Tyson Ford
DT: K.J. Miles
Vyper: Jalon Walker
Rover: Nolan Ziegler
Buck: Sebastien Cheeks or Auston Jackson
Mike: Tavarua Tafiti
CB: Isaac Thompson
CB: Fabian Ross
S: Myles Rowser

I'd be very happy with an 18 man class that looked like that!

Absolutely love the potential of Jacob Allen------OL kids such a crap shoot but he has every measurable.
 
This is my second 2022 recruiting update. My first one was a "names to know" type post. This time, however, I want to focus on some of the players that I think ND has a better than 50/50 chance of landing at this point. This is really early in the 2022 cycle and a lot of things can change. Visits won't be happening until the spring at the earliest, and might not even be allowed until the summer, or when games start up next year. That said, it's always cool to take an early look at some guys and look back later to see if I guessed with any degree of accuracy. I expect the 2022 class to be small in nature. My expectation is that the NCAA is going to institute the one time transfer policy, with immediate eligibility. Because of that change, I expect teams (Notre Dame included) to lose guys more often, and more importantly, take more developed players, from lesser programs, on the regular. We'll see how that plays out, but I think ND will prepare to supplement their roster in that way.

Here is a list of some guys to know...

QB Steve Angeli (Westfield, NJ, Bergen Catholic): Angeli has a host of early offers, including Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan, LSU, Miami, Penn State, etc. He's already a big kid at 6'2-6'3 and 200+lbs, he has a well above average arm and he has enough athleticism to move the pocket, makes some plays in space and move the chains with his legs as a last resort. He's not the runner Ian Book is in terms of change of direction, but picture a player in the mold of Joe Burrow. A pass first player, at his best in the pocket, who can run when the the situation calls for it. While I don't think he's going to make public a decision anytime soon, ultimately, Angeli, who Rees is targeting aggressively, is the guy I see ND landing as their 2022 pivot. A really nice follow up to Tyler Buchner as Notre Dame strives to create more competition in the quarterback room. I've long said that I'm not a fan of Drew Pyne's game and I ultimately expect him to transfer, however, I was wrong about Ian Book, so I might be again. Regardless, Angeli has the skill set and appears to have the intangibles to be an eventual high end starter.

OG Joey Tanona (Zionsville, IN, Zionsville): Tanona is already committed to Notre Dame and I don't see that changing. at 6'4-6'5, 290+lbs, he has the type of frame you're looking for. Expect Tanona to be another one of the ND OL that plays at 310+lbs. At the time he committed to Notre Dame Tanona had all the regional offers you want to see. Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Iowa and Wisconsin were all in pursuit and he was beginning to become a national recruit as well, with schools like LSU and Tennessee throwing their hats in the ring. While he plays tackle in high school, he's an obvious fit at OG in Notre Dame's system. Brian Kelly loves to take high school offensive tackles who lack elite athleticism and move them inside. Once in a while you get a freak like Quenten Nelson, or Aaron Banks, who could play guard or tackle at a high level, but that's not Tanona. He's a nasty guard through and through. If you want a player comparison, he reminds me a lot of former ND OL Christian Lombard, before the injuries. A guy with NFL upside if he stays healthy and isn't recruited over. He should definitely contribute during his ND career and projects as a potential starter on the interior.

OT Jake Taylor (Las Vegas, NV, Bishop Gorman): Taylor is classic ND type OL. He comes from an excellent football school, has ideal measurables to play right tackle and could easily slide inside and play guard as well. ND loves these types and I think they'll do everything they can to get Taylor in the class. Listed at 6'5, 275lbs, Taylor has quite a bit of work to do in the weight room before he could compete among ND offensive linemen, but he's well coached and he would likely show up in South Bend much more advanced than most of his competition. Taylor reports early offers from schools such as Notre Dame, Michigan, Oklahoma, Penn State, USC, as well as pretty much the entire Pac-12. In watching his film he strikes me as a kid that is currently underrated, despite being a mid range 4 star. I think he has tremendous upside and he actually kind of reminds me of Jarrett Patterson, who was also physically overwhelmed earlier in his ND career, but is proving to be an excellent player after a few seasons in the weight room with Matt Balis. I'm not sure who the primary competition is going to wind up being for Taylor. Maybe Oklahoma and USC?... Regardless, this is a kid that I want ND to take as a part of any 4 man class. There are a lot of guys ranked higher than him currently that I'd take Taylor over without hesitation.

OT / OG Ty Chan (Groton, MA, Lawrence Academy): Chan profiles perfectly for Notre Dame. The Irish offered early and he's an excellent fit academically. The only thing that I think could stop Chan from committing is if Notre Dame decides that he is exclusively a guard and chooses another prospect over him as the second interior player in the class along with Tanona. That said, at 6'4+ and approximately 270lbs, Chan also looks like he could project as a top flight center prospect. Although he plays tackle in high school, I think he's a reach to play that position at the next level. Maybe he winds up able to play RT, but I definitely don't see a LT here. Chan's offer list is what you'd expect from a Mass kid. Notre Dame, Michigan, Penn State, Boston College, Duke, etc. Maybe not some of the national powers that you'd like to see, but if you're taking a 4 man class and you're recruiting Chan the be the 4th player in that class, he's a more than acceptable take, with quality upside. I struggled to add this name to the list because ND recruits really well on the OL and think he winds up being a backup option as Notre Dame goes hard after top 100 types Zack Rice, Gunner Givens and Jacob Allen, but I'm going to leave him here for now, until I see some positive movement from one of those guys. Don't count Chan in at this point, but I like where ND stands should they push.

OG Grant Bingham (Paintsville KY, Johnson Central): Bingham is a guy who has recently soared up ND's list of targets. Listed at 6'6 and over 300lbs, he's already a big kid and his film shows weight that isn't poorly distributed at this point. Bingham projects to me a mauler of a guard and he has the frame to play in that 310-320lb range. I really like where ND stands with him already. Bingham has a lot of good things to say about Notre Dame and is really impressed by the OL that ND produces, seemingly every year. In state Kentucky will probably be the biggest challenger in the Bingham recruitment, but he also reports offers from Michigan and a smattering of SEC and ACC schools. He already visited Notre Dame last year, so he's been to campus and knows what he would be getting into. Right now I see him as a stronger run blocker than pass protector and he's not a guy that I think would play early. What you would be hoping for is a better version of Dillon Gibbons, and the #4 man in a 4 man class. In my opinion, I wouldn't take Bingham and Ty Chan in the same class, therefore, it could come down to these two for that coveted 4th spot.

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At Ohio State Sept 3. Buchner as QB. Tyree a veteran running back. Experienced receiving corps. If the defense is good, that will be an awesome win to start the season. I’ve predicted 2022 as our next national championship season for 2 years now. I hope I’m right.
 
Obvious take ?

A job that is undoable is an obvious take ?

Why ?

1. Because he played there, so it's his Alma mater.

2. Because it's in the best conference in the country, where exposure is unlimited.

3. Because if you do even a respectable job (see James Franklin) everybody understands that means you can really, really coach and you're in line for a big time program.

Hell, it's not ridiculous to think that if Lea went to Vanderbilt and built them into a respectable program for a few years that he wouldn't be in the running for the ND job when Brian Kelly retires.
 
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How exactly do you build them into a respectable program ?

Look at the SEC East and tell me who they're capable of passing.

On another note if I'm the Vandy AD and I make a change in my HFC no way in hell I bring in a No Experience as a HC Defensive guy.

I just fired one of those guys.
 
How exactly do you build them into a respectable program ?

Look at the SEC East and tell me who they're capable of passing.

On another note if I'm the Vandy AD and I make a change in my HFC no way in hell I bring in a No Experience as a HC Defensive guy.

I just fired one of those guys.

How did James Franklin build them into a respectable program? Hard work, quality coaching and grinding on the recruiting trail.
 
How did James Franklin build them into a respectable program? Hard work, quality coaching and grinding on the recruiting trail.
And:
According to court filings from one of the accused players, Franklin and Dwight Galt, the "director of performance enhancement," called the woman to say they "cared about her because she assisted them with recruiting." How did she assist them with recruiting? From the filing:

Coach Franklin called her in for a private meeting and told her he wanted her to get 15 pretty girls together and form a team to assist with the recruiting even though he knew it was against the rules. He added that all the other colleges did it.
Thurman didn't see a problem with that, either, saying he wasn't sure if "hostess-type programs" were against SEC rules. Franklin has denied doing anything wrong. In 2012, however, Franklin apologized for saying in a radio interview that one of the things he looked for in an assistant coach was that he had an attractive wife.
 
How did James Franklin build them into a respectable program? Hard work, quality coaching and grinding on the recruiting trail.

With his predecessors recruits and playing a soft schedule.

Different world now in the SEC as I previously stated.

In the CFB of today no way am I hiring a DC to be my HFC if I'm an AD.

It's about offense and facilities if you want to succeed at the Power 5 level.

Ever been to Vandys stadium ? Rivals Wake Forest , BC , Duke and Kansas as the worst Power 5 venues .
 
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