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2018 DL Commitment from the Ademilola twins!

Michigan thought they were getting them both.

So it's a double, double win!

So a 5* QB already.
A 4* RB who is already in man's body (so could even get better).
And two 4* (top 10 OLB/DE & top 15 DT) front 7.

Already an awesome class. And still looks like we are in the lead for a couple other 5* players.
 
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scubastevefl said:
Signing day is a long way off.
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So we should just not let kids commit then?
We can control only what we can control.
Kids committing is better than not committing.

Everybody is so negative. I'm glad this is a football forum & not a surgical room, military base or anything else important. Lol
 
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NDAFArly said:
So we should just not let kids commit then?
We can control only what we can control.
Kids committing is better than not committing.

Everybody is so negative. I'm glad this is a football forum & not a surgical room, military base or anything else important. Lol
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I do not think the poster is being negative. Simply -- signing day is a ways away (especially for the class of 2018), and kids do have a tendency to change their minds. ND, more than any other school that I can think of, has been impacted a lot over the last 4-5 years. So, while it is nice that a kid (twins in this case) commits, there is a bit of guarded skepticism until signing day.
 
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Kelso86 said:
I do not think the poster is being negative. Simply -- signing day is a ways away (especially for the class of 2018), and kids do have a tendency to change their minds. ND, more than any other school that I can think of, has been impacted a lot over the last 4-5 years. So, while it is nice that a kid (twins in this case) commits, there is a bit of guarded skepticism until signing day.
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Every single kid who has ever committed to ND I worry won't sign. But I understand that is part of it so not worth even bringing up unless he does.
Just like all of us have a better chance of dying in a car accident today than any other cause, but not worth bringing up because it is what it is.

See my point?
 
both are from the same school that gave us Wimbush and are huge pickups. read the other day that it would be a Michigan vs irish battle if our irish offered both. I know its early but our irish may have the best 2018 class of anybody right now with every player being a 4 star except one who is a 5 star and rated #1 at his positon
 
I think they committed to ND! I doubt They asked for assurances he would be there when they got there.
Given the early impressive offers, these 2 may believe in some kind social and moral value besides the SEC ka-ching!
This was not a referendum, it was a commitment! Can't you just let good news be good news? You need to morph it into a pissing contest!


(btw, was that a repost of something you might have posted when Beal committed? )
 
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Kelso86 said:
I do not think the poster is being negative. Simply -- signing day is a ways away (especially for the class of 2018), and kids do have a tendency to change their minds. ND, more than any other school that I can think of, has been impacted a lot over the last 4-5 years. So, while it is nice that a kid (twins in this case) commits, there is a bit of guarded skepticism until signing day.
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Exactly Kelso
 
Get Pj Mustipher and Malik Vann and you've got a very solid core of def recruits. BTW i dont think its much of a stretch to say we get those guys too.
 
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Kelso86 said:
I do not think the poster is being negative. Simply -- signing day is a ways away (especially for the class of 2018), and kids do have a tendency to change their minds. ND, more than any other school that I can think of, has been impacted a lot over the last 4-5 years. So, while it is nice that a kid (twins in this case) commits, there is a bit of guarded skepticism until signing day.
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Kelso, I agree with NDAFArly. Fans here want to celebrate news of the day rather than inferred negative news down the road that may never happen. And, there does seem to be a 'Negative Nelly' attitude on this board when recruits commit. ND deserves the best recruits in the country and the best recruits in the country are coming to ND. If a recruit de-commits then he will be replaced by a better recruit.
 
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D_Master said:
^^^not always....see Robert Beal if he doesnt come back to ND.
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If we get Echols, we would in fact be replacing Beal with a higher rates WDE.

But that being said, I really wanted (want) Beal in this class
 
Also, it's not only "not unrealistic" but in fact probable that our 2018 Revruiotng Class looks like this BEFORE THE 2016 SEASON EVEN STARTS!!

QB - Phil Jurkovec (5* Top10)
RB - Marquees Stepp (4* Top250)
WR - Micah Jones (4* Top150)
DE - Justin Ademilola (4* Top150)
DE - Malik Vann (4* Top250)
DT - PJ Mustipher (4* Top50)
DT - Jayson Ademilola (4* Top150)
CB - Houston Griffith (4* Top100)
 
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This is very good news and should be embraced as such. Of course they might change their minds, but who wouldn't prefer to have the early commit versus no commit at all? Staff are doing a great job connecting with these young men early and often, and we're seeing the results.
 
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This may be Kelly's top recruiting class if he keeps it together and possibly adds a few 5 star defensive players . Gotta believe Kelly wants a national championship before he leaves for the pros
 
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just read that this class is already ranked the 2nd best behind Miami with fsu in third. the kids in this class are working so hard at recruiting that these two brothers along with our qb and our one rb recruit were tweeting hard at the nations top APB from ohio to join the class after he tweeted his list of schools that he's looking at
 
Irish Grandeur said:
Kelso, I agree with NDAFArly. Fans here want to celebrate news of the day rather than inferred negative news down the road that may never happen. And, there does seem to be a 'Negative Nelly' attitude on this board when recruits commit. ND deserves the best recruits in the country and the best recruits in the country are coming to ND. If a recruit de-commits then he will be replaced by a better recruit.
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Irish -- NDAFArly -- it is not the fact of being a negative nelly (from what I read on the initial post) -- but basically, I think what he was trying to convey was everyone getting over the top excited and proclaiming them as future all-americans, when in fact, they are still a year and a half away from a full commitment. Then, if the "commits" do flip at some point (and yes, we have seen this) then the board goes into a tizzy about the flip and saying things like "get lost", "he does not understand ND", "the SEC pays him more" ... insert your own comment here.

There is nothing wrong with the excitement of a commit -- I hope they all stay true to it as well. But, for me personally, I do not get fully excited until LOI day -- and even then, it can be a crap shoot at times (Eddie V comes to mind). I think that is the message the original person was trying to convey.
 
^ early top prospects that commit also aid in the message to other prospects. So as long as the list looks like ND is putting something special together, recruits will take notice. Recruiting is staphodynamic
 
NDAFArly said:
So we should just not let kids commit then?
We can control only what we can control.
Kids committing is better than not committing.

Everybody is so negative. I'm glad this is a football forum & not a surgical room, military base or anything else important. Lol
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personally as someone who has lived through it and mentored close to 100 kids who have gone through it i don't think they should be able to offer or commit until the summer of their senior season. just my opinion. i also think an early signing period would be very beneficial to the kids. screw the schools.
 
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Echo, I used to share that opinion about when schools can offer, but finally concluded it would be unenforceable, and just give the schools we love to hate a further advantage. I think there would be a ton of silent offers and silent commits.
 
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Telx1 said:
Echo, I used to share that opinion about when schools can offer, but finally concluded it would be unenforceable, and just give the schools we love to hate a further advantage. I think there would be a ton of silent offers and silent commits.
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oh, i know. it's a shame. i am a big proponent of overhauling the whole system but the money will continue to talk. the sad thing is most of the rules now are pretty much unenforceable anyway. i'm all for a kid going with the highest bidder under this system.
 
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not to get to far into the weeds in the debate that is an early signing period. But looking at the '18 class again, I think we are lining up to have 1 of those classes that comes around every few years at ND. Actually when you look at it, about every 5 years. If you look back, look at the classes that really stood out. 2003, 2008, 2013....2018? Not that we havent recruited "well" recently. But this has the makings of another top 5 class. We have not only highly rated recuits committed already, but passionate ones about ND trying to get other highly rated kids to come. Its a loooong ways to signing day 2018, but its definitely a good start.
 
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The only real signing is when the butt hits the seat in the 1st class.
NLI is an optional signing.
 
NDAFArly said:
Every single kid who has ever committed to ND I worry won't sign. But I understand that is part of it so not worth even bringing up unless he does.
Just like all of us have a better chance of dying in a car accident today than any other cause, but not worth bringing up because it is what it is.

See my point?
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No
 
TheDecker said:
If we get Echols, we would in fact be replacing Beal with a higher rates WDE.

But that being said, I really wanted (want) Beal in this class
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From everything I have read on Rivals, as well as several other websites, the staff is very high on Echols (obviously), but a tad higher on Beal.
None the less, getting, Echols, MacCollister, and Paschal would be a very, very good ( great for ND) defensive end haul.
 
Houston Wildcat said:
From everything I have read on Rivals, as well as several other websites, the staff is very high on Echols (obviously), but a tad higher on Beal.
None the less, getting, Echols, MacCollister, and Paschal would be a very, very good ( great for ND) defensive end haul.
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I believe Echols is rated higher on rivals, which is what I was referencing.

I haven't really seen anything at all that hints to the ND staff's own prioritization if Beal v. Echols
 
Houston Wildcat said:
From everything I have read on Rivals, as well as several other websites, the staff is very high on Echols (obviously), but a tad higher on Beal.
None the less, getting, Echols, MacCollister, and Paschal would be a very, very good ( great for ND) defensive end haul.
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yeah i just found out about the Pachel kid (another top 10 DE in the country). Sounds like we are in pretty good shape w/ him, Echols and Ewell (his average ranking is the #10 defensive tackle in the nation). I saw Tom Loy thinks he will choose ND sooner rather than later.

We get 3 top 10 guys in the nation at their position and now we're talking about recruiting at a championship level, cause we're always gonna have a good to great offense i feel now under BK. Its how does the defense hold up that will turn average to good years into great/championship contending years.
 
TheDecker said:
Also, it's not only "not unrealistic" but in fact probable that our 2018 Revruiotng Class looks like this BEFORE THE 2016 SEASON EVEN STARTS!!

QB - Phil Jurkovec (5* Top10)
RB - Marquees Stepp (4* Top250)
WR - Micah Jones (4* Top150)
DE - Justin Ademilola (4* Top150)
DE - Malik Vann (4* Top250)
DT - PJ Mustipher (4* Top50)
DT - Jayson Ademilola (4* Top150)
CB - Houston Griffith (4* Top100)
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Four four-star DLs out of 8 recruits. Gotta feel good about that.
 
I just said last week that DL was the only position I always worry about when it comes to recruiting. I was told to relax and let it play out. Wow, was that advice right! Keep rolling BK and company. Go get Echols and Ewell.
 
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