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2018 Defensive Recruiting Class

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This recruiting cycle will be absolutely pivotal to Elko's plans of building a stellar defense at ND. That said, it's the perfect year for ND to land a defensive class much better than the average group the Irish bring in on defense. Here is why.

1. ND can be extremely picky and spend all its time honing in on the roughly 10 defensive players it will take in this cycle. With 4 quality, 4 stars already in fold, LB Bo Bauer, Rover Oghoufo, WDE Justin Ademilola and DT Jayson Ademilola, ND will take only roughly 6 additional defensive prospects. 1 DT, 1 DE, 1 LB, 2 CB and 1 S. That number could jump based on program defections, but as it stands right now, ND's new defensive staff needs to be choosy and go all in on some difference makers, while cultivating a board of 2nd tier options, just in case.

2. ND has some really solid connections, personally and regionally, with some top kids. A guy like Houston Griffith is a stud corner playing down at IMG, but he grew up an ND fan in Chicago. He ought to be right up at the top of ND's board. Defensive end Devin O'Rourke is an Irish Catholic kids from Illinois as well. He'd be an excellent second DE in the 2018 class, along with Ademilola. Dallas Gant is a high acamedic, stud linebacker at a great Catholic school in Ohio. That's an Ohio State vs Notre Dame battle until the end. If they can't get Gant, Cameron Mcgrone is another really quality 4 star LB down in Indy and he's chomping at the bit for an ND offer, as is 4 star Jack Sanborn in Illinois, who would likely have ND n his top 2 if they offered. Shayne Simon is a really quality SS prospect that plays with the Ademilolas in New Jersey. He also thinks very highly of Notre Dame. And finally, maybe the biggest fish of them all in this cycle for ND is NG PJ Mustipher, youngerror brother of ND center Sam Mustipher. We all know how much ND struggles to land elite DL. Bringing PJ to South Bend like ND did his brother, would give ND an damn good DT / NG haul along with Ademilola, a year after landing NG Ewell and DT Tagavaiola-Amosa. I can't remember the last time ND landed two straight classes of studs like that on the interior DL.

3. Elko and Lyght should be able to snag a top corner because ND took ZERO in 2017. Whether it's Derrik Allen, Houston Griffith, Braden Lenzy, Bookie Radley-Hiles, Kalen Gerwin, etc, etc, I don't care, ND just needs an elite corner in this cycle and there is no reason they shouldn't get one given their depth chart at the position and a new DC who emphasizes secondary play. I have a feeling ND lands 1 if not 2 top 150, maybe even top 100 CB's in this cycle.

I'm going to watch ND's offers in 2018 closely. ND will likely be in the neighbourhood of 10 commits bp by the end of Irish Invasion, which will be half of the class complete I do expect ND to wait a while, however, and really push for officials from top guys in season, before filling their limited spots with solid, but lesser players. I think Elko will want to show the new defense off in person to recruits, as will Long on offense... I expect ND to be battling for some studs heading towards signing day next Februrary.
 
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Thanks for the write up IIO. This class does have great potential for the defensive side of the ball. Due to this potential, I would grab more than 10 defensive prospects. I know its always a numbers game, but I would like something like this...
DT - Jayson Ademilola
DT - (Hopefully Mustipher)
SDE - ( Hopefully Vann)
WDE- Justin Ademilola
WDE- ( Hopefully O'Rourke, Waggoner)
ILB - Bo
OLB - Ovie
LB -
CB - (Hopefully Griffith)
CB -
CB-
S-
S-
 
As of now it looks to off to a promising start, but we all know that things change quick. We lost the 2 best defensive recruits this year, Beal and Jeter, and if we can't get current guys to outplay their recruiting ranking this defense is in trouble next couple years.

If this class doesn't get a few top notch DE's and few top notch CB's this defense may not get turned around this decade.
 
As of now it looks to off to a promising start, but we all know that things change quick. We lost the 2 best defensive recruits this year, Beal and Jeter, and if we can't get current guys to outplay their recruiting ranking this defense is in trouble next couple years.

If this class doesn't get a few top notch DE's and few top notch CB's this defense may not get turned around this decade.
The defense will be turned around this year.
 
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If ND goes over 10 defensive prospects and takes lets say 12 guys on that side of the ball, give me an extra DE and an extra CB.

We can't predict decommits, so as it stands right now ND has 4 commits on defense. Devin O'Rourke betyer damn well get an offer on Junior Day. A guy white Irish, Catholic kid from like an hour away from ND. He's 6'5, 230lbs in the winter before his senior year and a consensus top 10 end in this class.

Jayson Ademilola, Devin O'Rourke and one of John Wagonner, Malik Vann, Tyreke Smith, or Elijah Wade would be a homerun for ND in the 2018 cycle, especially if you can pull Mustipher to go along with Jayson Ademilola on the interior.

You already have a guy who can play Rover and a guy who can play either Mike or Buck in Oghoufo and Bauer, now finish the linebacker group with a stud like Gant or Hollifield, or take the safe option in Cameron McGrone who is a stud in Indy, or either of the Illinois 4 stars, Terrance Taylor or Jack Sanborn.

This is a banner year for defensive prospects in ND's recruiting footprint that are predesposed to be interested in the Irish.
 
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If ND goes over 10 defensive prospects and takes lets say 12 guys on that side of the ball, give me an extra DE and an extra CB.

We can't predict decommits, so as it stands right now ND has 4 commits on defense. Devin O'Rourke betyer damn well get an offer on Junior Day. A guy white Irish, Catholic kid from like an hour away from ND. He's 6'5, 230lbs in the winter before his senior year and a consensus top 10 end in this class.

Jayson Ademilola, Devin O'Rourke and one of John Wagonner, Malik Vann, Tyreke Smith, or Elijah Wade would be a homerun for ND in the 2018 cycle, especially if you can pull Mustipher to go along with Jayson Ademilola on the interior.

You already have a guy who can play Rover and a guy who can play either Mike or Buck in Oghoufo and Bauer, now finish the linebacker group with a stud like Gant or Hollifield, or take the safe option in Cameron McGrone who is a stud in Indy, or either of the Illinois 4 stars, Terrance Taylor or Jack Sanborn.

This is a banner year for defensive prospects in ND's recruiting footprint that are predesposed to be interested in the Irish.
Plus the addition of a gregarious defensive coordinator who enjoys recruiting.
 
Has ND offered any of these elite guys that are in the region or are they qualified academically?

ND has offers out to most of them. O'Rourke likely will be offered at Junior day, along with a host of other guys. McGrone is a kid that wants to be Irish, but ND has to do it's due dilligence with Gant, Hollifield and the truly elite guys before ot can extend it's final LB offer to a quality top 250 player.
 
This is the year to do it. I don't see ND pulling a 5 star unless they can get Tyreke Johnson or Derrik Allen, but this is a class that they could pull 3 or 4 top 100 players on defense and abpit 8 or 9 top 200 guys in total. That is the kind of recruiting that makes a coach look very good.

Imagine for a second a class that included...

4 Star DT Jayson Ademilola
4 Star NG PJ Mustipher (top 100)
4 Star WDE Justin Ademilola
4 Star WDE Devin O'Rourke
4 Star SDE Malik Vann
4 Star Buck Dallas Gant (top 100)
4 Star Mike Bo Bauer
4 Star Rover Ovie Oghoufo
4 Star CB Houston Griffith (top 100)

Give me even 7 of those 9 and round the class out with some Cali, Florida, Texas, New Jersey and Virginia talent, plus a 4 star or two from Illinois / Indiana and it could be a stellar group.
 
BK best tell mustipher is he can't get his brother committed he loses his started job lol. We need all the d linemen we can get
 
I'm not too sure if PJ Mustipher would want to come to ND, seeing how coach Kelly threw his brother under the bus multiple times last year while praising BVG for his D performance. For me personally, if a coach did that to a sibling, I'd wouldn't want to play for him.
 
I'm not too sure if PJ Mustipher would want to come to ND, seeing how coach Kelly threw his brother under the bus multiple times last year while praising BVG for his D performance. For me personally, if a coach did that to a sibling, I'd wouldn't want to play for him.
Dude... the kid showed multiple games he couldn't snap the football. He also played soft as all hell and quit against USC. I seem to be the only one who seems to not care he called a kid out who clearly can't snap the ball
 
Dude... the kid showed multiple games he couldn't snap the football. He also played soft as all hell and quit against USC. I seem to be the only one who seems to not care he called a kid out who clearly can't snap the ball
Why didn't Kelly make a change if it happened over and over?
 
I'm not too sure if PJ Mustipher would want to come to ND, seeing how coach Kelly threw his brother under the bus multiple times last year while praising BVG for his D performance. For me personally, if a coach did that to a sibling, I'd wouldn't want to play for him.
i'm sure glad that current players and recruits don't think like some of you posters on these message boards. for starters Kelly has a right to call out players for not performing up to the coaches standards. coach McGraw of the wbb team calls out her players all the time in post game pressers when they don't play up to her expectations during games as she just got on them recently in a presser talking about she doesn't have hardly anybody on the team that wants to try and play defense. players don't sit around and pout and cry when they get called out as only message board posters do. our irish will be fine in recruiting of PJ with several CBs already being put in for our irish from insiders.
 
lol...dream on dude. ND is a shit show right now. Get rid of Kelly and the recruits will come again
Wow, that's a great contribution to the discussion. Have I heard that before? "Kelly sucks and all things ND football suck so long as Kelly is there" that sentiment sounds so familiar I must have heard it somewhere before.
 
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lol...dream on dude. ND is a shit show right now. Get rid of Kelly and the recruits will come again

Other than Dallas Grant, ND is probably the leader for every omen of those guys roght now.

ND Ian probably the leader for 5* CB Allen too.

There is a LONG way to go, but at the moment most of those guys aren't more likely to end up at ND than not.
 
If ND goes over 10 defensive prospects and takes lets say 12 guys on that side of the ball, give me an extra DE and an extra CB.

We can't predict decommits, so as it stands right now ND has 4 commits on defense. Devin O'Rourke betyer damn well get an offer on Junior Day. A guy white Irish, Catholic kid from like an hour away from ND. He's 6'5, 230lbs in the winter before his senior year and a consensus top 10 end in this class.

Jayson Ademilola, Devin O'Rourke and one of John Wagonner, Malik Vann, Tyreke Smith, or Elijah Wade would be a homerun for ND in the 2018 cycle, especially if you can pull Mustipher to go along with Jayson Ademilola on the interior.

You already have a guy who can play Rover and a guy who can play either Mike or Buck in Oghoufo and Bauer, now finish the linebacker group with a stud like Gant or Hollifield, or take the safe option in Cameron McGrone who is a stud in Indy, or either of the Illinois 4 stars, Terrance Taylor or Jack Sanborn.

This is a banner year for defensive prospects in ND's recruiting footprint that are predesposed to be interested in the Irish.

IIO -- what are your thoughts on the 2 DB's the recently committed?
 
Derrick Allen is complete stud. 6'1, 205lb safety who will flat out erase you. Son of an Army dad from big time football country in Georgia. As good of a recruit as ND has landed in a long time and the best DB out of high school since Max Redfield... He'll be recruited until the very end by everyone in the country. Here is to hoping that the son of a man who has spent his entire career keeping to the commitment of defending his country with keep the commitment he made. Will be candidate to start from the very first day in South Bend. Incredible pull.

Kalon Gervin is another Shaun Crawford type. A 5'9-5'10 corner with elite short area quickness and toughness. Ideal nickel corner, who can run with slot receivers. Physical for his size and plays fast and smart. A really good pull, fringe top 100 player and from CASS Tech on top of everything.

Add Houston Griffith to this pull and hang onto all of them and it would be the best DB class at Notre Dame since I started following recruiting... Add Bookie Radley-Hiles, Trey Dean or one of the other safeties, and Alan Tisdale as anot her Rover and it would be ridiculous.
 
Derrick Allen is complete stud. 6'1, 205lb safety who will flat out erase you. Son of an Army dad from big time football country in Georgia. As good of a recruit as ND has landed in a long time and the best DB out of high school since Max Redfield... He'll be recruited until the very end by everyone in the country. Here is to hoping that the son of a man who has spent his entire career keeping to the commitment of defending his country with keep the commitment he made. Will be candidate to start from the very first day in South Bend. Incredible pull.

Kalon Gervin is another Shaun Crawford type. A 5'9-5'10 corner with elite short area quickness and toughness. Ideal nickel corner, who can run with slot receivers. Physical for his size and plays fast and smart. A really good pull, fringe top 100 player and from CASS Tech on top of everything.

Add Houston Griffith to this pull and hang onto all of them and it would be the best DB class at Notre Dame since I started following recruiting... Add Bookie Radley-Hiles, Trey Dean or one of the other safeties, and Alan Tisdale as anot her Rover and it would be ridiculous.

Great stuff !! Plus Polian will land some big Samoans from the Islands !!
 
Great stuff !! Plus Polian will land some big Samoans from the Islands !!

Polian and Alexander need to camp out in the St. Brown's back yard and at Nike headquarters with Braden Lenzy's dad in Oregon.

While they're at it, Isaac Taylor-Stuart is up in San Diego, and you know the staff likes kids with hyphenated names. Olaijah Griffin needs a visit at Mission Viejo, so does Jeremiah Martin in San Bernardino. Along the way you have Aashari Croswell at Hawkins and Tommy Brown at Mater Dei... When they're done, back up to Oregon where Talanoa Hufanga is in Corvallis, then off to Nevada and Bishop Gorman, where Palaie Gaoteote needs to be talked out of going to Ohio State and Brevin Jordan needs to be talked into following in Alize's footsteps.

Polian and Alexander have their hands full out West and that's without stops in Washington, Arizona, or Hawaii.
 
Polian and Alexander need to camp out in the St. Brown's back yard and at Nike headquarters with Braden Lenzy's dad in Oregon.

While they're at it, Isaac Taylor-Stuart is up in San Diego, and you know the staff likes kids with hyphenated names. Olaijah Griffin needs a visit at Mission Viejo, so does Jeremiah Martin in San Bernardino. Along the way you have Aashari Croswell at Hawkins and Tommy Brown at Mater Dei... When they're done, back up to Oregon where Talanoa Hufanga is in Corvallis, then off to Nevada and Bishop Gorman, where Palaie Gaoteote needs to be talked out of going to Ohio State and Brevin Jordan needs to be talked into following in Alize's footsteps.

Polian and Alexander have their hands full out West and that's without stops in Washington, Arizona, or Hawaii.

I can almost guarantee Polian will be headed to the Islands ! All big Trophy fisherman have their favorite spots !!
 
I can almost guarantee Polian will be headed to the Islands ! All big Trophy fisherman have their favorite spots !!

It's a down year in Hawaii in 2018. Probably the only recruit ND would be seriously interested in, if they don't get any of their top choices at WDE, would be Samson Reed, out of Kahuku and even he would be pretty far down the list, IMO. Polian will be heavily involved with top Hawaii recruits when they are available, but he won't force it... Most of his time will likely be spent in California, Arizona, Nevada, Washington and Oregon. He may dabble in Texas as well.
 
It's a down year in Hawaii in 2018. Probably the only recruit ND would be seriously interested in, if they don't get any of their top choices at WDE, would be Samson Reed, out of Kahuku and even he would be pretty far down the list, IMO. Polian will be heavily involved with top Hawaii recruits when they are available, but he won't force it... Most of his time will likely be spent in California, Arizona, Nevada, Washington and Oregon. He may dabble in Texas as well.

Many top highschool football stars move from Hawai and American Samoa to play highscool football in the mainland ! They are still Polynesians !! And have family on the islands who Brian Polian will visit and do the Haku dance !! This Samoan plays in California and is a 5 star linebacker like Manti !!! Elston was after him but they don't call Polian "The RainMaker " for nothing!! I believe the Irish will win his commitment by the last day of recruiting in 2018 !!
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Palaie Gaoteote !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He looks like an Islander to me!!

Manti Junior !~!!
 
Hahaha I know who Palaie is. I think everyone does. Bishop Gorman kid in Nevada. Ohio State and USC lead... Would be an enormous upset of a pull for ND, the same way Manti was. Here is to hoping!
 
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I'm not too sure if PJ Mustipher would want to come to ND, seeing how coach Kelly threw his brother under the bus multiple times last year while praising BVG for his D performance. For me personally, if a coach did that to a sibling, I'd wouldn't want to play for him.
Stop posting bs. Mustipher is very interested in ND. This is big time football. Not tittly winks.
 
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Polian can do it!!!!!

I think ND has a better chance with Gant, Hollifield and McGrone (as a backup option). They also like Alan Tisdale and Shayne Simon as potential rovers... Unfortunately, this class only really has room for 1 more linebacker (two if they stretch it) so they have to be wise about how they use their scholarships with Ovie and Bo already on board.
 
I'm not too sure if PJ Mustipher would want to come to ND, seeing how coach Kelly threw his brother under the bus multiple times last year while praising BVG for his D performance. For me personally, if a coach did that to a sibling, I'd wouldn't want to play for him.

Is that why Kelly fired BVG -- for praising his D performance?
 
people are idiots. Until he fires him, he has to have his back, otherwise whats the point of having him on staff? Look I was always in the camp of BK waited too long, but to act like he should've been calling out BVG publically or something is insane. Then it just looks like chaos among the staff if that happens.
 
I think ND has a better chance with Gant, Hollifield and McGrone (as a backup option). They also like Alan Tisdale and Shayne Simon as potential rovers... Unfortunately, this class only really has room for 1 more linebacker (two if they stretch it) so they have to be wise about how they use their scholarships with Ovie and Bo already on board.

Because of the seriousness of David Adams Injury, two might be important. He is out for two years after his surgery and he has not had it yet from what I can tell. He strikes as a guy will come back strong or die trying but you never get full range of shoulder movement back with Labrum surgeries.

I am so pleased with Gervin and Allen that I would shut it down if we get 1 more really good one like them. Adams has a huge recovery regimen in fron of him. The light switch has not gone on for Brarajas. Jamir is still an athlete without a position. We might have to stretch it.

I guess it comes down to what are the player options when it comes down the final slots.
 
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