12 team playoff coming
- Thread starter Shakin' Down the Thunder
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Pigs get fat. Hogs get slaughtered.
Hopefully this doesn't water down the regular season and incentivizes more teams to schedule compelling regular season non conference matchups.
From a pure competition standpoint even the 4 team playoff highlights how a 4th ranked team doesn't deserve to be on the field with #1.. the exception being OSU.
This makes everyone more money and that's really all they're concerned with.. They're capitalists. To that point it will also solve the bowl opt-out issue for more teams. Won't see a top 10 post-season matchup with a 25% depleted roster.
Hopefully this doesn't water down the regular season and incentivizes more teams to schedule compelling regular season non conference matchups.
From a pure competition standpoint even the 4 team playoff highlights how a 4th ranked team doesn't deserve to be on the field with #1.. the exception being OSU.
This makes everyone more money and that's really all they're concerned with.. They're capitalists. To that point it will also solve the bowl opt-out issue for more teams. Won't see a top 10 post-season matchup with a 25% depleted roster.
While many are disappointed, i think this is the best thing for football. Current format: ND will almost never gets in with 1 loss, Alabama will always have the benefit of the doubt no matter how many losses they have, and how many teams should have had a shot at the championship no matter how poor the odds. UFC beat auburn who beat alabama, but never got a sniff. Miracles do happen, milan won state championship in hs basketball in indiana (in a no class system) which led to the movie hoosiers. Butler came from no where in basketball tourney and went to championship 2 straight years. It came happen in football too.
I am sick of Alabama in playoffs almost every year for last 20 years (it seems). Time to mix it up. Make them play more games (not sure if that happens with the bye, but it gives them a better opponent in the end). Sure deep will help the stack teams, but its no guarantee they win.
I am sick of Alabama in playoffs almost every year for last 20 years (it seems). Time to mix it up. Make them play more games (not sure if that happens with the bye, but it gives them a better opponent in the end). Sure deep will help the stack teams, but its no guarantee they win.
I agree, I’ve been saying this for a long time. Coach Kelly made similar comments in the past.
It’s very difficult to play a football game with a 40 day layoff. Not playing a FB game in 5 plus weeks is terrible.
I’m also simpatico with you on the home playoff game.
I do think it sucks that MD could go 12-0 and be a 5 seed though.
No. None whatsoever.
Especially when you have teams terrified to play out of conference games, or play above the Mason Dixon line post Halloween...
This at the very least removes a lot of the trendy beauty contest and flavor of the month perception.
Perception will still get in but so will the outliers who've plowed a much tougher path in getting there. Weather, styles make fights, travel...all are factors that can take a toll versus the coziness of playing in pretty weather and traveling a 400 miles radius or much less most games.
Regular seasons used to mean sonething when teams weren't afraid to schedule tough opponents.
That's been gone since before you were born
That one week of not playing versus a team who had a conference title game meant nothing.
Brian Kelly making excuses for himself. Just like the different aisle horseshit and then the extra week off time before a big game.
Good god...it's his teams that ALWAYS spotted the opponent two scores or more...it's his teams showing up flat and intimidated. It's his teams that polished up the long east west run plays that were predictable in the regular season but I guess he thought he'd trick them come post season.
His teams have always been uninspired and same old same old.
No new wrinkles...nothing new to get an edge. Just business as usual.
Christ almighty Saban needed a surprise onside kick to beat Clemson one year...
Brian Kelly did one thing. He learned and showed ND doesn't out recruit by default any more.
You have to still work harder than the other guy which he didn't do or doesn't know how.
ANYTHING THAT REDUCES THE IMPORTANCE OF THE REGULAR SEASON IS A BAD THING.
As I pointed out, look at the NHL and the NBA, the regular seasons are kind of so what BECAUSE there are TOO MANY TEAMS in the playoffs.
Now I know what some numbies are going to say:
THERE ARE SO MANY TEAMS in CFB that it is different.
OVER the last 40 years or so just HOW MANY teams have won the NC?
There are NEVER more than at most 6-8 teams that are LEGITIMATE NC contenders.
AND this BS about the playoffs making things better if you add more teams:
ALL that means is that if some team with a mediocre season gets hot at the right time they could possible sneak in..
AND the ONE THING that College Football always had was that the teams that were RIGHT AT THE TOP AND DESERVED a shot at the NC were ones that had played the entire season.
NOT FOR 4 GAMES.
As I pointed out, look at the NHL and the NBA, the regular seasons are kind of so what BECAUSE there are TOO MANY TEAMS in the playoffs.
Now I know what some numbies are going to say:
THERE ARE SO MANY TEAMS in CFB that it is different.
OVER the last 40 years or so just HOW MANY teams have won the NC?
There are NEVER more than at most 6-8 teams that are LEGITIMATE NC contenders.
AND this BS about the playoffs making things better if you add more teams:
ALL that means is that if some team with a mediocre season gets hot at the right time they could possible sneak in..
AND the ONE THING that College Football always had was that the teams that were RIGHT AT THE TOP AND DESERVED a shot at the NC were ones that had played the entire season.
NOT FOR 4 GAMES.
Here’s the good News for you guys:
1.) You’re not getting a first round bye no matter what your record or ranking because you don’t have to play a Conference Championship Game. The top four seeds do. Why is this a positive??? Because now if you are seeded anywhere from 5-8, you basically get a “Conference Championship Game” at Home, and unlike the top four seeds, more than likely get to keep most of the gate revenue.
2.) You can be ranked as low as number 12 if the top six Conference Champs are ranked anywhere in the top 11, and still make the Playoffs.
3. Since you’re not in a Conference, your equivalency of a “Conference Championship Game” could be against the Sunbelt Champ or the MAC Champ instead of an Ohio State, Michigan, USC, or Penn State.
4. ) If you think of the first round as your equivalent of a “Conference Championship Game”, and you win, the next round will most likely be at a neutral site. The higher you were ranked during the regular season, the worst of the four top Conference Champs you’ll end up playing anyway. They’ll be more rested, but also, maybe more rusty from a longer layoff between games.
There’s other things, but all in all, I think you’ve made out pretty good. Your main issue will be scheduling if Conferences like the Big Ten expand further and move to a ten game schedule.
Last year would have looked something like this:
1 Bama
2 Michigan
3 Cincy
4 Baylor
5 Georgia
6 ND
7 Ohio St
8 Miss
9 Okie St
10 Utah
11 Sparty
12 Pitt
ND hosts Sparty, plays Cincy, plays Bama.
1 Bama
2 Michigan
3 Cincy
4 Baylor
5 Georgia
6 ND
7 Ohio St
8 Miss
9 Okie St
10 Utah
11 Sparty
12 Pitt
ND hosts Sparty, plays Cincy, plays Bama.
We'll be more than fine no matter what like we always are
But thanks for your concern
Maybe you'll make a playoff now though
I like any format that gives ND a chance to be in the playoffs with one loss. So, on that score, I like this. That said, this seems more designed to keep the ACC and PAC and Big 12 on life support. Personally, I liked the old BCS format until Conference Championships skewed the end of season rankings to the disadvantage of independents. So, was hoping for an expansion that gave teams Other than the big five conference champs a shot with one loss; but expanding this beyond the top ten team seems silly. I always liked the idea of the top eight teams, with no guarantees to Conference Champs, and no byes.
Thanks for posting. With that example, does anyone here think that this playoff road to the title game is disadvantageous or unfair? Home game and then neutral site rest of the way.
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Yes it does. A bunch of real sensitive pussy’s on this board. Don’t express an opinion or state the obvious if it’s at all counter to the kool-aid drinkers narrative.
Yep. No more beauty contest bias like 2016. We get a first round bye, and Ohio State doesn’t.
There will still be beauty contest bias. It will just be relegated to seeding and the bubble teams.
He was outvoted. The major conferences wanted their conference champions to be rewarded. By expanding the playoff to 12, ND should arguably get in most years.
Bull crap. We were Conference Champions and beat them head to head dominating the second half of that game. They needed a bad call at Home to beat Michigan.
They were the third best team in the Big Ten that year but had Herbie on their side with the now famous “looks test” that he used to lobby so as to get them in over us and Michigan.
It worked, and they got in over us, but didn’t deserve to. They didn’t even show up against Clemson and slept walked through that game. Screw Ohio State.
