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Those in the know have any update on future commitments? NDFarley? Our 2021 momentum seems to have slowed. Any concerns?
Shut the h*ll up already. All you do is b**ch in every thread. Go find another teamLet me "spoil" the 2021 class for you:
National Signing Day 2021 ND Class Ranking: ~12.5
My guess would be Justin Walters safety from Illinois.Those in the know have any update on future commitments? NDFarley? Our 2021 momentum seems to have slowed. Any concerns?
Let me "spoil" the 2021 class for you:
National Signing Day 2021 ND Class Ranking: ~12.5
I will try to answer both.
1) ND has its first Junior day in a couple weeks. A lot of good kids will be there. ND might pick up a commitment that day.
2) It’s been the dead period so nothing really has happened in recruiting. The first day it ends ND coaches will be all over the country, including Lance Taylor visiting Will Shipley for the 6th time. I’m not worried at all because ND has 6 commits all inside the top 100, (Crippen won’t be a ND commit). They are now going into the more selective stage & just sent out a bunch of new offers. There are a few kids ND could probably get now if they wanted, but they are not pushing for them really hard.
Overall things will start really picking up soon.
I'm not so sure now that BK has said, after 10 yrs, he's going to try to recruit harder.Let me "spoil" the 2021 class for you:
National Signing Day 2021 ND Class Ranking: ~12.5
Is this Tengwall, Spindler, Fisher a possibility or these kids just like tweeting at each other? I also noticed Taylor is going all in on Shipley. Quite a 180 from the last RB coach.
Is he wrong...?Shut the h*ll up already. All you do is b**ch in every thread. Go find another team
Chas. This class will finished in the 12th range.
Awesome, an upgrade!Let me "spoil" the 2021 class for you:
National Signing Day 2021 ND Class Ranking: ~12.5
I’m not sure. I thought the same about the 2020 class. 2020 class is awesome top end but could have used some more of the higher 4 star caliber players. I think the 2019 class had a really good amount of high 4 star players but not enough star power at the top (besides Hamilton of course).Not worried about that at all.
When you only sign 20, you aren’t finishing top 5. Look at the star rating, ND will be much higher than 12th.
Why only 20?Not worried about that at all.
When you only sign 20, you aren’t finishing top 5. Look at the star rating, ND will be much higher than 12th.
The teams in the playoff have top 5 classes. Everyone keeps making this “well we only have 20” statement. I ask, why don’t we want to recruit like the playoff teams. Are we better?I’m not sure. I thought the same about the 2020 class. 2020 class is awesome top end but could have used some more of the higher 4 star caliber players. I think the 2019 class had a really good amount of high 4 star players but not enough star power at the top (besides Hamilton of course).
I just hear every year how this next class will be top 5 but it’s around 12 every year. Clemson LSU, Bama, Ohio state, Oregon etc. I just don’t see a top 5 finish especially as the 2020 season starts, ND’s recruiting has stalled in that time frame recently while other teams continue the heavy lifting.
Some teams over-sign in the event someone else drops out and subsequently kids get gray shirted. The SEC is notorious for that.Why only 20?
Why only 20?
I’m not sure. I thought the same about the 2020 class. 2020 class is awesome top end but could have used some more of the higher 4 star caliber players. I think the 2019 class had a really good amount of high 4 star players but not enough star power at the top (besides Hamilton of course).
I just hear every year how this next class will be top 5 but it’s around 12 every year. Clemson LSU, Bama, Ohio state, Oregon etc. I just don’t see a top 5 finish especially as the 2020 season starts, ND’s recruiting has stalled in that time frame recently while other teams continue the heavy lifting.
The teams in the playoff have top 5 classes. Everyone keeps making this “well we only have 20” statement. I ask, why don’t we want to recruit like the playoff teams. Are we better?
Literally every fanbase says this. Truth is if 5 more 5* kids wanted to sign with ND or any given school they would find a way to make it happen.It's not about how many kids you sign, the rankings are skewed. If you want a true barometer for which classes/teams are doing the best look at the overall player AVERAGE, that's the indicator in terms of the level of talent you are signing.
The bottomline is that ND isn't gonna go out and sign 30 kids, probably ever. If you took ND's classes the last few years and added 4-6 random kids to it (not even highly ranked kids per se) it would enhance the overall class ranking, but wouldn't necessarily make it "a better class". They're doing fine.
It has way more to do with what position groups you are signing the 5*, and upper 4* players than the number. The skill positions are important (QB, RB, WR), look at Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, they all have elite skill position players.
Then why the huge gap between Clemson’s success and ND’s? It either has to be coaching or top end talent.Clemson’s first three CFP’s consisted of classes ranked between 12-17. They recruit better now, but was outside the top 10 for years. Other teams get top 5 classes & don’t sniff the CFP.
I hope ND doesn't slow play some really talented players They got burned for doing that before. In the end I see 22-23 recruits.Why only 20?
Deshaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence.Then why the huge gap between Clemson’s success and ND’s? It either has to be coaching or top end talent.
I get it but again. Look at the top 5 recruiting schools. They’re all the top 5 best teams. Facts are facts.It's not about how many kids you sign, the rankings are skewed. If you want a true barometer for which classes/teams are doing the best look at the overall player AVERAGE, that's the indicator in terms of the level of talent you are signing.
The bottomline is that ND isn't gonna go out and sign 30 kids, probably ever. If you took ND's classes the last few years and added 4-6 random kids to it (not even highly ranked kids per se) it would enhance the overall class ranking, but wouldn't necessarily make it "a better class". They're doing fine.
It has way more to do with what position groups you are signing the 5*, and upper 4* players than the number. The skill positions are important (QB, RB, WR), look at Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, they all have elite skill position players.
Numbers are never as big as a problem as fans think. If all of Clemson’s 5 stars wanted to flip to ND on national signing day ND would make it happen.I hope ND doesn't slow play some really talented players They got burned for doing that before. In the end I see 22-23 recruits.
Numbers are never as big as a problem as fans think. If all of Clemson’s 5 stars wanted to flip to ND on national signing day ND would make it happen.
There will always be transfers and early declarations. You’re telling me if bryan bresee, Justin flowe, julian Fleming, and Paris johnson all by an act of god wanted to flip to ND on signing day ND would say no?False.
The football staff at ND doesn’t have the final say in removing scholarships from student athletes. If ND is over they can’t just process kids like other schools. ND has 90 on the books now. They have to be at 85 by opening weekend. They graduate 17 next year. You do the math...
All this jargon is fine, however you still win with the five star guys and Notre Dame just doesn't get enough of them for whatever reasons. Maybe as said in another thread if the $$$$$$ started coming down more emphasis would be made on having a title contender as in the past.
I get it but again. Look at the top 5 recruiting schools. They’re all the top 5 best teams. Facts are facts.
Means nothingLet me "spoil" the 2021 class for you:
National Signing Day 2021 ND Class Ranking: ~12.5
Pretty sure hes going to take his visits. I say this every year and it never fails to let me down. Next commit will be a new offer during Junior day or a camp.My guess would be Justin Walters safety from Illinois.
No concerns. We are going to have an awesome 21 class
Terms of their contracts are unavailable at this time. lolClemson looking like it’s getting two top Ca. Prospects. Beaux Collins and Korey Forman (top 5 in class!)
Courtesy of Clay Helton.