I googled it but I couldn’t find a specific parameter regarding ND and I know I read something in years past that ND had to be in the top 12, 15, or something to qualify.
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What are the parameters to get a NY Six Bowl?
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Not losing to Stanford and Marshall might be on there....
LMAO…no shit
I was just curious if ND wins out would they have a legitimate shot at a NY6?
I just saw that ND is currently projected to play in the ReliaQuest bowl, formerly known as the Outback bowl against South Carolina. Meh...
Let's win out before even thinking about bowl games.
Winning out, and therefore beating the likely PAC 12 (or whatever the number is) Champion would boost the bowl invite, imo. But...ND dug the hole its in....so...it is what it is. When you only have two tools available in the hole... ladder and a shovel....for best results, use the ladder.
I'd love to get a matchup with LSU somehow. That would be epic.
Just win out. Who cares what bowl we get. Win out and establish momentum for next year and beyond. One game at a time
If they win out I imagine they would end up at-least top 15 if not top 12. That’s if SC continues to win and is a top 10 opponent. ND wins out and I would bet they end up in a NY6 bowl.
ND looked like one of the best teams in football last Saturday and that means WAAY more to voters than losing by a few points to Stanford and Marshall early in the season.
If ND continues to dominate over the remaining 3 games, while Clemson continues to win games, then ND has a shot to squeeze into an NY6 bowl.
If ND continues to dominate over the remaining 3 games, while Clemson continues to win games, then ND has a shot to squeeze into an NY6 bowl.
If ND wins out, and Clemson & North Carolina win out and play one another in the ACC Championship game with each having one loss being to Notre Dame, that should definitely be worth something.
Clemson has three remaining home games: Louisville, Miami, South Carolina
UNC's three remaining games are: at Wake Forest, vs Georgia Tech, vs NC State
I think Clemson gets tested by Louisville this weekend, Cards have won four in a row. They should beat Miami and South Carolina. Although I think the game vs South Carolina will be closer than in years past.
UNC @ Wake will be a good game Saturday night, and the game vs NC State could definitely be a toss up.
Clemson has three remaining home games: Louisville, Miami, South Carolina
UNC's three remaining games are: at Wake Forest, vs Georgia Tech, vs NC State
I think Clemson gets tested by Louisville this weekend, Cards have won four in a row. They should beat Miami and South Carolina. Although I think the game vs South Carolina will be closer than in years past.
UNC @ Wake will be a good game Saturday night, and the game vs NC State could definitely be a toss up.
Good wins typically count for more in the committee’s eyes than bad losses.
If (and it’s a big if) ND has all their losses before mid October, and has wins against 1-loss Clemson, 1-loss UNC and 2-loss USC they will be a top 12 team. You can argue if that’s deserving or not and you can argue if good wins are worth more than bad losses … but once you get past the top 8 you have a lot of teams with some good looks and bad warts.
This is a tough year for us to get into the NY6 because the Fiesta and Peach Bowls are hosting playoff games. That leaves only 3 at-large spots in NY6 games: 2 in the Cotton Bowl and 1 in the Orange Bowl. The 2 Rose Bowl spots, the 2 Sugar Bowl spots, and 1 of the Orange Bowl spots are all pre-designated to Conference teams, even if those teams are ranked below us. I think we used to be eligible to take the ACC spot in the Orange Bowl, but that is not the case now.
In years where the Rose and Sugar Bowls are the playoff hosts there are 7 at-large spots available. Much easier to get in with a ranking around 12. This year I think we would need to be in the 8-10 range.
In years where the Rose and Sugar Bowls are the playoff hosts there are 7 at-large spots available. Much easier to get in with a ranking around 12. This year I think we would need to be in the 8-10 range.
The only 3 loss team last year was Utah. But they won the PAC 12. I see ND getting one of the 2nd tier games which aren't NY6 that are still really good like the Outback or Holiday Bowl. Then if ND can play a respected brand and win it's still a great year at hopefully 10-3. If they were to get in the Holiday Bowl it would most likely be vs either UW UCLA Utah or Oregon. If SC were there then ND would not be the choice.
Also. Clemson and UNC both have one loss. If things play out the winner of that game will be 12-1. The loser 11-2. Both will be ranked higher than ND. That means two potential NY6 for them as they might be left out of the playoff. Plus ND still needs to win out. SC is not gonna be easy.
I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for clarifying. I'll say that that's about my last choice for where I would like a tie-in, since it matches us up against an ACC team. Bowl games are best when they provide matchups we don't often see in the regular season, IMO.
Won't happen because more than likely Orange will be Clemson or UNC. They don't do rematches in bowl games.
not if an SEC and Big 10 is ranked higher with 2 losses. ND is gonna have a hard enough time going 9-3. I'd worry about that first.
The non playoff bowls are all about making money and attracting TV eyeballs. ND at 9-3 would be in an excellent position. The only kink is that ND's NY6 bowl is a slot opposite an ACC team. I don't think that is nearly as attractive as ND vs TCU or Texas or Bama.
My guess is we go 8-4 and go to an average bowl. 9 and 3 would possibly be New Year's day bowl. But I don't think Alabama is a good match up. LSU would be a great match up. 9 and 4 would be a good start for Freeman.
We are squarely back in the hunt for an NY6 Bowl after this weekend. The key is to avoid situations where undeserving teams sneak ahead of us based on conference tie-ins. In my read, here's what we should root for by conference:
ACC: Clemson misses the playoffs. Otherwise the ACC gets both a playoff spot and an Orange Bowl bid.
Big Ten: In a perfect world, Penn State loses and either OSU or UM misses the playoffs. Since that is unlikely, the best case for us is that both OSU and UM make the playoffs so that Penn State takes the Big Ten spot in the Rose Bowl rather than an at-large bid.
Big Twelve: Not many good options here, but ideally TCU would miss the playoffs losing to Iowa St. and then beat Kansas State in the B12 champ game. That would cover their Sugar Bowl tie-in without adding an extra B12 team to the NY6 mix.
PAC 12: USC (after we beat them) wins the Pac 12 championship game, guaranteeing that the Rose Bowl is the only NY6 game a Pac 12 team occupies. Go Irish!
SEC: We need to be ranked ahead of Alabama, Tennessee, or LSU. I don't think Auburn or Vandy are really primed for upsets, so I'm hoping that Georgia embarrasses LSU in the SEC title game, paving the way for us to move ahead of them.
Overall, I think the most likely scenario is that we beat USC and finish ranked 12th. From that position I think we miss an NY6 Bowl behind 4 playoff teams, 7 deserving teams, and one pathetic team that joined the party based solely on its conference tie-in. But anything can happen!
ACC: Clemson misses the playoffs. Otherwise the ACC gets both a playoff spot and an Orange Bowl bid.
Big Ten: In a perfect world, Penn State loses and either OSU or UM misses the playoffs. Since that is unlikely, the best case for us is that both OSU and UM make the playoffs so that Penn State takes the Big Ten spot in the Rose Bowl rather than an at-large bid.
Big Twelve: Not many good options here, but ideally TCU would miss the playoffs losing to Iowa St. and then beat Kansas State in the B12 champ game. That would cover their Sugar Bowl tie-in without adding an extra B12 team to the NY6 mix.
PAC 12: USC (after we beat them) wins the Pac 12 championship game, guaranteeing that the Rose Bowl is the only NY6 game a Pac 12 team occupies. Go Irish!
SEC: We need to be ranked ahead of Alabama, Tennessee, or LSU. I don't think Auburn or Vandy are really primed for upsets, so I'm hoping that Georgia embarrasses LSU in the SEC title game, paving the way for us to move ahead of them.
Overall, I think the most likely scenario is that we beat USC and finish ranked 12th. From that position I think we miss an NY6 Bowl behind 4 playoff teams, 7 deserving teams, and one pathetic team that joined the party based solely on its conference tie-in. But anything can happen!
I think we will be 14th after this week. If we beat SC I think we move inside the top12. After championship week, maybe inside the top10
Sounds about right. The Cheez-It Bowl is praying that all the other factors go against us so they get a top 10 ND in their lowly game
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