Virginia vs. Notre Dame 9/12/15 thoughts

[88ND]

This was won by the players because the coaching staff did it's very best to lose this one.
BVG should be fired immediately. He should have been dismissed and made to take his own ride home.
The mass confusion that still goes on is very sad truth be told. Last year the same crap happened and I said bvg is the problem...everyone said no no...it's our injuries. Well the second string players are not stupid and they couldn't grasp what bvg is selling then and they can't get it now. Terrible fundamentals shows its ugly head again. The worst thing is the players confused and out of position. Again. I can see one play or even a few but virtually every passing play ND looked like they didn't know who to cover. If bvg is teaching the wrong things...or his message is not being delivered proper ...either way it is wrong and it's on him. Period.
#10 on defense is allergic to wrapping up. He just hits and no wrap up. What the hell.

The offense. There was no flow or rhythm. Questions I want answered.
Why another game the magical #10 tight end gets no targets? He only had one target in two games. Robinson? Hurt? Why he got one target and one catch all game is beyond me. It was a big one but only one attempt to him? Will fuller bailed them out this game. CJ bailed them out too. The run game was working well. Kelly had to square peg round hole again with some bizarre choices on certain down and distance.
Kelly and BVG tried very hard to ruin this game but the spirit of ND prevailed.
Special teams needs a little more work and they might have something there.

Next one up. Kizer....is going to be fine. He was as good as Malik throwing the ball today....which is to say not too good. Malik was just off today throwing it.
Lastly any team that makes it to the end needs some luck allont way. Hopefully we didn't use all of it up.

Ps.
In kizer we trust....Next up...GT & off we go, 2-0

 

[perseverare]

well, one cannot argue that the game started to resemble the 2nd half of ladt season; but let's remember this was also a 'not good offense' thus accrebating the obvious!

BVG has a dynamic personality; is that all there is? Time to get defensive Coach!

 

[MTIrish98]

Last week the defense looked great and everyone on the board was crowing about it. This week we're ready for coaching changes all ready. What a fickle group!

 

[88ND]

Last week the defense looked great and everyone on the board was crowing about it. This week we're ready for coaching changes all ready. What a fickle group!

Who? Read my assessment of last game. I said I have nothing to say about the defense because good or bad as they were not challenged whatsoever.
They got challenged this game. And what was on display? Again??? Mass confusion on almost every passing play.
NBC reported how BK was very happy that BVG simplified the terminology going into this year. He could draw up the schemes with a Damn crayon ...THE DEFENSE IS STILL NOT GETTING IT!!!!!

 

[hvillebill]

Last week the defense looked great and everyone on the board was crowing about it. This week we're ready for coaching changes all ready. What a fickle group!

That's how some of these guys have rolled for years. And, they all could do a better job even though they never even coached a pee wee team.

I finally put some of those guys on ignore and the board is now much more enjoyable.

 

[BigFellaFan]

The total lack of football knowledge around this board can be stunning at times. This thread is a good example.

 

[Pennick4]

Do you think the OP noticed the cast on number 10? His name is Max Redfield. Read more and post less.

 

[perseverare]

Last week the defense looked great and everyone on the board was crowing about it. This week we're ready for coaching changes all ready. What a fickle group!

wrong; polly anna's shouted down any rational defensive analysis being applied to the UT game and now those offering that word of caution are being denied existence? huh?

 

[perseverare]

BTW

UCLA handled these guys easily, offensively and defensively. UCLA did so with a true Fr. QB.

 

[deadirishpoet]

The total lack of football knowledge ...QUOTE

That describes ND redzone offense perfectly

 

[perseverare]

^ man of few words?

 

[bizzybecknd]

^ man of few words?

Being denied existence?? Haha you are a clown.. A joke

 

[rgc7]

The Defense really looked great against Texas. They seemed to be putting pressure on the Texas QB the whole game. Against Va , the defense seemed to
be playing a different type of defense, and the VA QB seemed to be very comfortable in the pocket.
Maybe Texas is just a really bad team ? Maybe BVG did not get D properly prepared for Va ? in any case. we looked like two different defensive teams.
One aggressive and one laid back and sleep walking.
What team will show up next week ?

 

[88ND]

Do you think the OP noticed the cast on number 10? His name is Max Redfield. Read more and post less.

The OP noticed the cast on one arm. Does that mean his other arm is useless as well? All he did was stick his shoulder into the ball carrier. There was zero attempt on his part to wrap up. Zero. Moreover if he is he that inhibited to wrapping up then someone else needs to be I'm there.
I've never expected the defense on 2015 to pitch shutouts, but you all know it does not help the cause when the back seven looks ridiculously confused. Nothing positive comes from that. Is it the message or the deliverance of it? Either way it's wrong.

 

[perseverare]

The Defense really looked great against Texas. They seemed to be putting pressure on the Texas QB the whole game. Against Va , the defense seemed to
be playing a different type of defense, and the VA QB seemed to be very comfortable in the pocket.
Maybe Texas is just a really bad team ? Maybe BVG did not get D properly prepared for Va ? in any case. we looked like two different defensive teams.
One aggressive and one laid back and sleep walking.
What team will show up next week ?

rgc
UVA was better prepared than UT; and watch them totally abuse Joe S.
Teams figured out BVg in the second half of '15 and I am thinking that some sort of major change to defensive scheme is needed. 7-9 games have gone this way. And the 2 successes are LSU and and utterly untalented UT team. I think ND prepared for LSU by simply trying to put Les Miles in situations where he would be Les Miles and screw up; he obliged throughout the game UT is hortible.

 

[NDCap]

UVA is not a terrible team. ND had to put them away early and could not . The UVA secondary was better then I thought. Take away the 2 TD passes to Fuller and our passing game was bad. ND had 2 players run for like 250 yards and a 9.0 per carry average. That should equate to some open TE's in the play action game. BK just runs plays . No imagination . Never see a good feel of the game with him. Give UVA credit. they played with a ton of heart never quit. Good road win but there is so much to improve on with this team.

 

[88ND]

NDCAP,
Problem BK seems to have is the feel for the game. Example...
Kizer is in, we have a 2nd and 3, and he goes empty set pass.
Now at this point given the circumstances....simplify and moving the sticks is paramount.
He always seems to be numb to certain situations ...numb to ebb and flow.

I must say that in other years Notre dame loses that game. This team has some winners on it. Great energy.

 

[TurnoverMachine]

Again the ignorance of some. Texas's O-Line was littered with freshmen. Their qb is beyond awful. If anyone thought the ND defense was "all that" after the UT game then I have beachfront property to sell you in Kentucky, 'Merica.

 

[shooter1977]

I was at the game and have a couple thoughts. The defense was a mess. We sat behind the end-zone, and there seemed to be uncertainty in the secondary before so many snaps. Guys were moving around and seemed confused about where they were lining up. Nothing makes a team slower than uncertainty on where they are going.

-TV didn't do justice to how loud it was on that final drive. I'm so impressed that Kizer, and the rest of the offense was able to remain calm. It also sounded like UVA was piping in music right up to the snap on that final drive.

-UVA had some good athletes in their defensive secondary. But as a whole, UVA did not seem like a well coached team. So many unforced errors on their part. I don't know how we didn't intercept Johns. He throw up floaters. Our offensive play calling seemed unimaginative. Liked the effort to run the ball but were the tight ends even targeted?

-As an aside, Charlottesville is the quintessential college town. UVA has a beautiful stadium that's in the middle of one of the nicest college campuses I've visited. I'd rank it right up there with Notre Dame's campus. If you're into visiting different places, I'd recommend the trip next time ND plays there.

 

[88ND]

Shooter, sadly there was only one ball I can remember of all the floaters that was nearly picked. Our guy misplayed it. It was #12 I believe. Right through his hands. Aside from that the reason others were completed was our mass confusion in the secondary. It's hard to play full speed when you are unsure....which is exactly the current state of our defense. Again.
GT game is about as straight forward as could be. It's simple assignment tough football. Man vs man and you can't shy from the individual battles.
This team has some nice talent and a nice confidence about them. As I Said before, in other years ND does not win that game

 

[schadenfreude]

The thing is, going by P5 standards, UVA is a bad team. On the schedule only UMass will be worse (Wake will be about equal). The Cavs played about as well as they could but they have a lot less talent than Texas.

 

[twalsh]

Again the ignorance of some. Texas's O-Line was littered with freshmen. Their qb is beyond awful. If anyone thought the ND defense was "all that" after the UT game then I have beachfront property to sell you in Kentucky, 'Merica.

Texas went with the Hurd kid at QB Saturday and put up 21 pts on Rice in the first quarter. I think we have seen the last of Tyrone Swoopes playing QB at Texas.

 

[perseverare]

Texas went with the Hurd kid at QB Saturday and put up 21 pts on Rice in the first quarter. I think we have seen the last of Tyrone Swoopes playing QB at Texas.

it was odd he did not stay in for UT vs ND

 

[mbd11]

The thing is, going by P5 standards, UVA is a bad team. On the schedule only UMass will be worse (Wake will be about equal). The Cavs played about as well as they could but they have a lot less talent than Texas.

I don't think UVa is that bad. London has done decently recruiting. Johns beat out the guy who's now starting for Georgia, a top 10 team. They have some other good players (RB, WR, defense). They're definitely a better team than Texas right now.

Edit: just looked up a few players. RB Mizzell was a 5* recruit out of Virginia. WR Severin (the guy who caught most of their passes) was a 4* recruit out of Massachusetts. One of the starting DTs was a 5* recruit, which may explain why Nick Martin was having so much trouble. My point is that London has done pretty well recruiting the last few years, and Virginia may not be as bad as some people think.

 

[NDSMC78]

The thing is, going by P5 standards, UVA is a bad team. On the schedule only UMass will be worse (Wake will be about equal). The Cavs played about as well as they could but they have a lot less talent than Texas.

If UVA is the second worst team on ND's schedule, that says a lot about the quality of ND's schedule.

 

[Pennick4]

The thing is, going by P5 standards, UVA is a bad team. On the schedule only UMass will be worse (Wake will be about equal). The Cavs played about as well as they could but they have a lot less talent than Texas.

That isn't true. The safety(Blanding) and wide receiver number 9 were better than anything Texas had on its roster. Actually UVA had better talent up and down their roster. London can recruit but hasn't been able to put it all together at UVA.

 

[MTIrish98]

^ man of few words?

I usually try not to get onto any forums until at least 24 hours after a game is over. Too many knuckleheads and overreactions come out of the wood work.

I too was extremely disappointed in the defensive effort on Saturday, but I'm not ready to fire BVG. Should we try to hire Will Muschamp?!? Oh wait... his defense barely contained Jacksonville State. It was a weekend full of poorly executed football -- with only a few bright spots.

The entire team was very flat on Saturday. It was a classic trap game: on the road, early kickoff, sandwiched between Texas and Ga. Tech, against a team looking for a "signature" win, etc. One game is not a trend.

 

[faviles15]

I thought this write up had some great insight on how UVA attacked our defense...

http://optimumscouting.com/draft/ga...ruggles-with-optimism-ten-scouting-notes.html