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Vegas-opening with Irish as 9.5 dogs

Not a surprising line at all.

Good thing this team has been an endless supply of surprises all year.
 
We lost to a 28 point dog at home. You think this team needs motivation? Move the line to double digits, Freeman will eat it up.
This is the same talk ND fans were using in the last 3 playoff/bcs championship appearances (prior to 2024) only to get predictably ran over by a much better team in each of those games.

I don't think ND gets ran over vs OSU but I don't think the game will be that competitive either. Maybe a 2 possession win on OSU part but I can see them going up early and the game never really being competitive or ever in doubt.

OSU DF+ (defense) is ranked #1 and their offense is #3. Notre Dame is #7 in offense and #3 in defense. No matter what leaf you turn over or what angle you look at this matchup from OSU is clearly the better team.
 
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This is the same talk ND fans were using in the last 3 playoff/bcs championship appearances (prior to 2024) only to get predictably ran over by a much better team in each of those games.

I don't think ND gets ran over vs OSU but I don't think the game will be that competitive either. Maybe a 2 possession win on OSU part but I can see them going up early and the game never really being competitive or ever in doubt.

OSU DF+ (defense) is ranked #1 and their offense is #3. Notre Dame is #7 in offense and #3 in defense. No matter what leaf you turn over OSU is clearly the better team.
We shall see, that's why they play the games as my dad used to say. I will not be surprised one bit if ND wins this game!🍀
 
This is the same talk ND fans were using in the last 3 playoff/bcs championship appearances (prior to 2024) only to get predictably ran over by a much better team in each of those games.

I don't think ND gets ran over vs OSU but I don't think the game will be that competitive either. Maybe a 2 possession win on OSU part but I can see them going up early and the game never really being competitive or ever in doubt.

OSU DF+ (defense) is ranked #1 and their offense is #3. Notre Dame is #7 in offense and #3 in defense. No matter what leaf you turn over or what angle you look at this matchup from OSU is clearly the better team.
Well why play the game then? Everyone knows Ohio State has a better roster. Everyone thought Georgia and Penn State had better rosters too, but we know what happened on the football field.

This ND team has heart and they play as a team, things you can’t measure. 9-0 in their last 9 vs ranked opponents, beat the SEC champs, top 5 PSU and have been winning handily. Notre Dame also has a coaching edge IMO.

Ohio State can look past ND all they want and I guarantee you this ND team will take the game from them. 13 game win streaks don’t just happen. Make no mistake, there is nothing fluky about this season.

I forgot to ask, what did F+ predict would happen in the Ohio State/Michigan game this year?
 
This is the same talk ND fans were using in the last 3 playoff/bcs championship appearances (prior to 2024) only to get predictably ran over by a much better team in each of those games.

I don't think ND gets ran over vs OSU but I don't think the game will be that competitive either. Maybe a 2 possession win on OSU part but I can see them going up early and the game never really being competitive or ever in doubt.

OSU DF+ (defense) is ranked #1 and their offense is #3. Notre Dame is #7 in offense and #3 in defense. No matter what leaf you turn over or what angle you look at this matchup from OSU is clearly the better team.
Chase! How are you doing!?! I haven't seen you around here active in threads lately.

Where have you been!? Have you been celebrating the Georgia and PSU wins? Where have you been?
 
Injuries

Most metrics on the season have this game at 2… so add nd injuries and osu playing better … 7.5 feels like the right line
 
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This is the same talk ND fans were using in the last 3 playoff/bcs championship appearances (prior to 2024) only to get predictably ran over by a much better team in each of those games.

I don't think ND gets ran over vs OSU but I don't think the game will be that competitive either. Maybe a 2 possession win on OSU part but I can see them going up early and the game never really being competitive or ever in doubt.

OSU DF+ (defense) is ranked #1 and their offense is #3. Notre Dame is #7 in offense and #3 in defense. No matter what leaf you turn over or what angle you look at this matchup from OSU is clearly the better team.
LITTLE B1TCH ALERT.
 
This is the same talk ND fans were using in the last 3 playoff/bcs championship appearances (prior to 2024) only to get predictably ran over by a much better team in each of those games.

I don't think ND gets ran over vs OSU but I don't think the game will be that competitive either. Maybe a 2 possession win on OSU part but I can see them going up early and the game never really being competitive or ever in doubt.

OSU DF+ (defense) is ranked #1 and their offense is #3. Notre Dame is #7 in offense and #3 in defense. No matter what leaf you turn over or what angle you look at this matchup from OSU is clearly the better team.
Good thing the better team doesn't always win.
 
I’m surprised it’s only 9.5. I figured 13 or 14. But it’s one game and anything can happen. ND can go in and just let it rip. Nothing to lose. Nobody expects them to win. Which is fine with me. Don’t forget , Ohio State has 2 losses. It’s not like they are unbeatable. Texas was right there. So you never know. Anyway , this team is special. I would never count them out. Go Irish!!!☘️ ☘️☘️
 
Just gotta find a way to be great for 60 minutes. That's it. Be great for 60 minutes. We're prepared for it.

Survive OSUs early storm. Get into the 2nd half with the game close.....then the pressure is on, and someone cracks. 1 or 2 mistakes or big plays will turn the tide. We know that we're tough as hell. If the game turns into a street fight late, I think we can steal it.

I'd look at what Michigan did, and emulate it.
 
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Can our elite secondary hold their own against the elite WRs?

CG, Watts, Adon, and Moore are so damn good. Clark and Heard can handle their shit too. We'll see how that matchup goes vs Egbuka, Smith, and Tate.

We have to get to Howard. Make him give it away like Allar did.
 
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damn.... thoughts?
Meh...
Vegas point spreads are not made by sport analysts . All Vegas wants is equal betting on both teams. It does not mean that they think OSU will beat us by that....they simply don't care. Just bet.
 
Meh...
Vegas point spreads are not made by sport analysts . All Vegas wants is equal betting on both teams. It does not mean that they think OSU will beat us by that....they simply don't care. Just bet.
That's exactly what it means. The opening line is all about what their system predicts is the separation between these quality of teams.

F plus sees it the same way Notre Dame are big dogs in that system as well
 
Ohio State probably wins 3 of 4. But in one game scenario, we absolutely have a chance to win this game.
This is a fair point which is the only thing I'm holding my hat on as a fan. Anybody could beat anybody in a four-quarter game so Notre Dame should be commended for playing themselves into this opportunity. It just sucks that Notre Dame isn't more tenacious operationally so that these games aren't such a long shot when ND exceeds expectations and plays their way into them
 
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