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Todd Lyght

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Easy on the negative talks of Todd Lyght.
All of these promising young recruits are his recruits.
The guy is an ND legend and
is a great asset to the program.

His boss BVG is an ass clown and
It's his fault the defense is terrible along with Kelly.

Todd Lyght is the man.
 
Easy on the negative talks of Todd Lyght.
All of these promising young recruits are his recruits.
The guy is an ND legend and
is a great asset to the program.

His boss BVG is an ass clown and
It's his fault the defense is terrible along with Kelly.

Todd Lyght is the man.
Who brought in Light, Kelly or BVG.If Kelly forced Light onto BVG that doesn't always work.If BVG brought in Light then that's on BVG.
 
You have zero basis to suggest that Todd Lyghy is going to be a good coach. He is one of the 3 best DB's in ND history and was a stud in the NFL. That doesn't mean that he knows how to coach at all. He had never been a secondary coach before coming to ND.

Coaches and players are different. The vast majority of the best coaches in the world were not excellent players before they were coaches. They were average players who had great minds for the game that far outweighed their natural ability.

Maybe Lyghy will be a good coAch someday, but his DB's are dreadful right now. He had has been a sizeable downgrade from Cooks, who wasn't half the player Lyght was.

Wayne Gretzky was by a large margin the greatest hockey player in NHL history. He was a terrible coach for the Pheonix Coyotes and later admitted that coaching was much harder in on his mind than playing the game was.

Autry Denson, who was a fairly average player in the grand scope of things, has coached his running backs infinitely better than Lyght has coached his DB's to this point... that's why Lyght is looking wide-eyes and lost while getting screamed at on the sideline by BK, while Denson quietly goes about his business being a boss.
 
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Recruits are not like us board fans. They make 40 year decisions and see ND's resume. Playing each game on TV. Placing a ton of players in the pro's and taking care of players later that move on to something more than FB.

Some recruits who were not really sure bail of the head coach bails but assistants go continually.
 
You have zero basis to suggest that Todd Lyghy is going to be a good coach. He is one of the 3 best DB's in ND history and was a stud in the NFL. That doesn't mean that he knows how to coach at all. He had never been a secondary coach before coming to ND.

Coaches and players are different. The vast majority of the best coaches in the world were not excellent players before they were coaches. They were average players who had great minds for the game that far outweighed their natural ability.

Maybe Lyghy will be a good coAch someday, but his DB's are dreadful right now. He had has been a sizeable downgrade from Cooks, who wasn't half the player Lyght was.

Wayne Gretzky was by a large margin the greatest hockey player in NHL history. He was a terrible coach for the Pheonix Coyotes and later admitted that coaching was much harder in on his mind than playing the game was.

Autry Denson, who was a fairly average player in the grand scope of things, has coached his running backs infinitely better than Lyght has coached his DB's to this point... that's why Lyght is looking wide-eyes and lost while getting screamed at on the sideline by BK, while Denson quietly goes about his business being a boss.
Almost everything you said above is true but I believe the OP is still on the right track. It is very difficult to evaluate assistants when the overall coaching is bad and right now we have major weaknesses everywhere on defense and it's been that way since BVG has been here. Sure, the DB's look bad but they looked bad in the second half of 2014 too when Cooks was the DB coach. That was BVG's first year, and after some initial success in the first few games when opposing teams weren't sure how to attack us, our defense fell apart once they did. A DB coach doesn't get to determine how practices are run. He doesn't even get to implement his overall philosophy for how his position group should be developed if his philosophy in any way conflicts with the DC's philosophy. And I don't care how good you are as a secondary coach, if your guys are constantly asked to have perfect coverage every pass play because there is absolutely no pass rush, your guys will almost certainly get beat on a fairly consistently basis because I don't know of any secondary that can be play perfectly all the time. Right now I think we don't have enough info to properly evaluate Lyght as a DB coach. Keith Gilmore has all the experience and pedigree you mention and yet our d-line consistently under-performs as well. Should we question if he is the right person for the job? The one constant in all of this is BVG, and to be completely fair, BK too.
 
Easy on the negative talks of Todd Lyght.
All of these promising young recruits are his recruits.
The guy is an ND legend and
is a great asset to the program.

His boss BVG is an ass clown and
It's his fault the defense is terrible along with Kelly.

Todd Lyght is the man.


with no pass rush, any thoughts on the DB's is guesswork!
 
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Totally agree that a great player is not necessarily a great coach. The problem for years has been the DB's. BK had better get involved so he knows if it is SCHEME (BVG) or is it FUNDAMENTALS(TL).

GET BETTER---NOW!!!
 
It's impossible to know how much blame to place on BVG or Lyght for poor DB play. However, Lyght as an individual DB coach likely has the freedom to do what he wants in his meetings and individual periods. With that said, I seriously question what Lyght is doing. The DBs can't press/jam, they take poor angles, tackle sloppy, play way too far off on short yardage/red zone situations, and often aren't on the same page when it comes to playing zone. I try not to be negative and look for some positives, but I really can't with this group. Cole Luke has possibly the worst game of his career Saturday and what saddens me, is that it seems to me the best DB right now, is a true freshman, Studstill. What has contributed to this is the departures/injuries of Redfield, Butler, Watkins, and Crawford and the severe lack of a pass rush. But at the very least, I'd like to see them play solid disciplined fundamental football for once.
 
with no pass rush, any thoughts on the DB's is guesswork!
I'd agree with you normally, except for the fact that teams having been throwing pretty quick against us into blown coverages or our DBs & Safeties just getting burned.

Example:

Texas multiple times burned Coleman, once or twice burned Luke, and once or twice blown coverage by Drue.

Nevada - Coleman had a blown coverage on a short quick throw route that ended up being a huge play for nevada

Michigan State - Luke got beat on a jump ball where he was in position and just didn't make the play he also blew the coverage late in the game, the DBs missed a zillion tackles, coleman couldn't stay with or tackle a slow TE.

Teams don't have to extend plays vs ND right now because our secondary either gets smoked or blows a coverage.
 
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You have zero basis to suggest that Todd Lyghy is going to be a good coach. He is one of the 3 best DB's in ND history and was a stud in the NFL. That doesn't mean that he knows how to coach at all. He had never been a secondary coach before coming to ND.

Coaches and players are different. The vast majority of the best coaches in the world were not excellent players before they were coaches. They were average players who had great minds for the game that far outweighed their natural ability.

Maybe Lyghy will be a good coAch someday, but his DB's are dreadful right now. He had has been a sizeable downgrade from Cooks, who wasn't half the player Lyght was.

Wayne Gretzky was by a large margin the greatest hockey player in NHL history. He was a terrible coach for the Pheonix Coyotes and later admitted that coaching was much harder in on his mind than playing the game was.

Autry Denson, who was a fairly average player in the grand scope of things, has coached his running backs infinitely better than Lyght has coached his DB's to this point... that's why Lyght is looking wide-eyes and lost while getting screamed at on the sideline by BK, while Denson quietly goes about his business being a boss.

Excellent points all around. Usually, most of your superstar players do not make good coaches. Why? Maybe because of their god given talent things came naturally easy for them. Then you get a mediocre player who had to really understand the game and things that could help him compete. Those players do make good coaches.
 
Can't blame Lyght for pathetic play of Cole Luke on Sat. Didn't make play on TD pass and pathetic tackling due to effort.
 
the whole team's culture needs to change.
if not our defense will always be mediocre at best.

We need someone to be able to lift ND to another level.
I don't think BK can do it.
7 years is enough time.
 
Easy on the negative talks of Todd Lyght.
All of these promising young recruits are his recruits.
The guy is an ND legend and
is a great asset to the program.

His boss BVG is an ass clown and
It's his fault the defense is terrible along with Kelly.

Todd Lyght is the man.
TL was a legend. NC winner, all American twice...

Ummm...doesn't mean automatically he can coach. Often times on the contrary because the player isn't of your equal skill.
 
..... because of their God given talent things came naturally easy for them.

Agree.......IMO the BEST players are the ones that just MAKE PLAYS. God given talents, a natural sense of how to react to the football, the Will to WIN/compete, etc etc. IF ND has those players even a little constructive coaching can yield better results!

JUST DO IT!!!
 
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