This breaks my heart (Re: Jaylon Smith injury)

[chaseball]

Foot drop is the inability to lift the front part of the foot causing the toes to drag along the ground while walking. The issue suggests Smith is still dealing with nerve damage after tearing his ACL and LCL in the Fiesta Bowl. Already not expected to play in 2016, the problem at the very least casts doubt on Smith's ability to make a full recovery. It would be surprising if he came off the board in the first round.

 

[captstabbin]

NO!

 

[mbd11]

That would be a shame. I'm rooting for him.

 

[FI1]

Truly sorry to hear this. I hope and pray that things come together for him sooner than later.

 

[pilkdogg]

that is terrible

that osu creep should be shot

 

[irishalice]

Keith Arnold ‏@KeithArnold 21m21 minutes ago
Re: Jaylon's knee injury. It's essentially electrical wiring. Could turn on tomorrow. Usually does. Doom and gloom is product of reporting.

Got to let healing and rehab take its course.

 

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Foot drop is the inability to lift the front part of the foot causing the toes to drag along the ground while walking. The issue suggests Smith is still dealing with nerve damage after tearing his ACL and LCL in the Fiesta Bowl. Already not expected to play in 2016, the problem at the very least casts doubt on Smith's ability to make a full recovery. It would be surprising if he came off the board in the first round.

I feel bad for the fact Taylor Decker destroyed his career over a cheap shot but I don't feel bad for Smith's bank account. He's guaranteed to walk away with five million dollars tax free if he doesn't get drafted in round one. I predicted back in February that his earliest spot would be the third round. I think that echo bashed me for another accurate opinion. Smith might not go until later now. Hopefully he gets drafted. He deserves that honor.

 

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And if that "breaks" your heart that is a bit creepy. It's disappointing for him but I don't think it should affect you.

 

[chaseball]

$5M is chump change compared to what could have been a $100M NFL career (endorsements, nfl contracts, etc.)

He played at ND virtually free while making the university many millions -- what does he get in return ? a handicapped leg and a pat on the back. That's what pains me. It sucks to see these kids getting exploited putting their literal lives on the line for university presidents/conference presidents/head coaches/corporate sponsors/ etc. making them wealthy beyond their wildest dreams, while these young men get relative peanuts in return.


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[theskibro]

$5M is chump change compared to what could have been a $100M NFL career (endorsements, nfl contracts, etc.)

He played at ND virtually free while making the university many millions -- what does he get in return ? a handicapped leg and a pat on the back. That's what pains me. It sucks to see these kids getting exploited putting their literal lives on the line for university presidents/conference presidents/head coaches/corporate sponsors/ etc. making them wealthy beyond their wildest dreams, while these young men get relative peanuts in return.


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What a moronic assessment. And what about the millions of everyday citizens who work their butt off trying to advance their careers while making big corporations or an employer rich? Well that is life, dude. You do your best and hope someone notices and while you are making people notice that you are a good employee, you hope you don't drop dead of a heart attck because you work so much that you cant exercise properly or spend enough time with your family.

Get real. I think the world of Jaylon and hope things work out but don't give us that crap about the university making millions and he gets screwed.

He paid his dues like everyone else and he got a bad break. It can happen. Hopefully he will be fine. Clearly, based on his comments and the way he deflects blame, he has a more lucid, realistic and appreciative view of life than you do.

 

[echowaker]

that is terrible

that osu creep should be shot

Idiocy.

 

[echowaker]

I feel bad for the fact Taylor Decker destroyed his career over a cheap shot but I don't feel bad for Smith's bank account. He's guaranteed to walk away with five million dollars tax free if he doesn't get drafted in round one. I predicted back in February that his earliest spot would be the third round. I think that echo bashed me for another accurate opinion. Smith might not go until later now. Hopefully he gets drafted. He deserves that honor.

A push is not a cheap shot.

 

[wicker]

A push is not a cheap shot.

Was borderline. Jaylon didn't have the chance to brace himself as the shove came outside of normal game action. As cheap shots go, it's pretty tame, but it did cause injury

 

[captstabbin]

Cheap shot probably not. Unnecessary....100%

 

[Jersey Domer]

Do we have a Doctor on this board that can explain exactly what the injury is and the recovery process?

 

[NDSMC78]

$5M is chump change compared to what could have been a $100M NFL career (endorsements, nfl contracts, etc.)

He played at ND virtually free while making the university many millions -- what does he get in return ? a handicapped leg and a pat on the back. That's what pains me. It sucks to see these kids getting exploited putting their literal lives on the line for university presidents/conference presidents/head coaches/corporate sponsors/ etc. making them wealthy beyond their wildest dreams, while these young men get relative peanuts in return.


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Man, get a clue. $5,000,000 is not peanuts. What the hell is wrong with you?

 

[pilkdogg]

block in the back after whistle is cheap

screw you experts that never soiled a jock

 

[schadenfreude]

What a moronic assessment. And what about the millions of everyday citizens who work their butt off trying to advance their careers while making big corporations or an employer rich? Well that is life, dude. You do your best and hope someone notices and while you are making people notice that you are a good employee, you hope you don't drop dead of a heart attck because you work so much that you cant exercise properly or spend enough time with your family.

Get real. I think the world of Jaylon and hope things work out but don't give us that crap about the university making millions and he gets screwed.

He paid his dues like everyone else and he got a bad break. It can happen. Hopefully he will be fine. Clearly, based on his comments and the way he deflects blame, he has a more lucid, realistic and appreciative view of life than you do.

Agree. The $5 million has to compared to what his signing bonus may have been. That is generally the only guaranteed part of an NFL contract. I hope he will be able to play but if not he is still financially set for life.

Edit: it should be noted that many posting here put our "lives on the line" for a whole lot less.

 

[NewHampshireIrish]

$5M is chump change compared to what could have been a $100M NFL career (endorsements, nfl contracts, etc.)

He played at ND virtually free while making the university many millions -- what does he get in return ? a handicapped leg and a pat on the back. That's what pains me. It sucks to see these kids getting exploited putting their literal lives on the line for university presidents/conference presidents/head coaches/corporate sponsors/ etc. making them wealthy beyond their wildest dreams, while these young men get relative peanuts in return.


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Give me a break.

What about these things that MANY people would be over the moon to receive:

The free education he received from the University of Notre Dame. The free housing. Free Under Armour Clothes.

When you make a commitment to play division 1 college football, there is no guarantee that you will have a career in athletics. What you do get is a guarantee of a minimum bachelor's degree fully paid for. There is an assumed risk of injury when you play football. I'm so sick of the idea that these student athletes are being "exploited". Don't play if you don't like it.

 

[artemis gordon]

$5M is chump change compared to what could have been a $100M NFL career (endorsements, nfl contracts, etc.)

He played at ND virtually free while making the university many millions -- what does he get in return ? a handicapped leg and a pat on the back. That's what pains me. It sucks to see these kids getting exploited putting their literal lives on the line for university presidents/conference presidents/head coaches/corporate sponsors/ etc. making them wealthy beyond their wildest dreams, while these young men get relative peanuts in return.


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Don't you think that's a tad bit melodramatic? He played because he loved to play and got a first class education. Injuries happen all the time.

 

[BGI User 348]

There are NO guarantees. Life always throw EACH of us a curveball. Most do not have $5 mill protection. Enjoy every day, every PLAY while you can!

 

[Pennick4]

He has the value of a ND degree. Terrible break for what appears to be a great kid. Every future recruit should be told this story.

 

[echowaker]

Was borderline. Jaylon didn't have the chance to brace himself as the shove came outside of normal game action. As cheap shots go, it's pretty tame, but it did cause injury

I consider cheap shots action taken with the intent to injure. I have no problem with decker playing to the whistle as he should.

 

[echowaker]

block in the back after whistle is cheap

screw you experts that never soiled a jock

It wasn't t after the whistle. It was a push. Its called football. Nothing remotely cheap about it.

 

[echowaker]

Cheap shot probably not. Unnecessary....100%

You play to the whistle.

 

[echowaker]

By blocking someone from behind?

It was a push. No penalty. Yes you play to the whistle. It s been coached that way forever. If a nd player had done the same as decker no one would be whining here.

 

[Granite45]

He has the value of a ND degree. Terrible break for what appears to be a great kid. Every future recruit should be told this story.

Unfortunately the remains to be seen; he just finished his junior year. I have wondered if he will attend classes while he rehabs. I guess there is a question of whether he completes his degree at ND or elsewhere.

 

[Granite45]

I consider cheap shots action taken with the intent to injure. I have no problem with decker playing to the whistle as he should.

Players are smart enough to distinguish between normal playing and unnecessary hits, especially with the focus on injuries these days. Decker's push was completely unnecessary, however clean it may have been to older values.

 

[stu4don]

Get the degree and an alum will give him a job on Wall Street. That's ND.

(Although I'm not convinced that he is finished.)

 

[schadenfreude]

Get the degree and an alum will give him a job on Wall Street. That's ND.

(Although I'm not convinced that he is finished.)

 

[cgvr]

The Six-Figure Price Tag for Selling a $2 Hot Dog

"He pays the city’s parks department $289,500 a year just for the right to operate his single cart there."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/n...ag-for-selling-a-two-dollar-hot-dog.html?_r=0

 

[Kelso86]

Man, get a clue. $5,000,000 is not peanuts. What the hell is wrong with you?

You are asking chaseball what the hell is wrong with him??? Not sure I really want to know that answer! LOL

 

[echowaker]

Players are smart enough to distinguish between normal playing and unnecessary hits, especially with the focus on injuries these days. Decker's push was completely unnecessary, however clean it may have been to older values.

nonsense. might as well play flag football then. eliminate contact altogether.

 

[Pennick4]

Unfortunately the remains to be seen; he just finished his junior year. I have wondered if he will attend classes while he rehabs. I guess there is a question of whether he completes his degree at ND or elsewhere.

If he can't play football in the NFL, he is going to have the time and $ to complete his degree if he needs to do so.

 

[Epictitus]

The total lack of football knowledge here is extraordinary.

To call an inadvertent push a "cheap shot" is beyond idiocrocy. Then again dumb people trying to be know it alls here have never been hard to find.

 

[cgvr]

The total lack of football knowledge here is extraordinary.

To call an inadvertent push a "cheap shot" is beyond idiocrocy. Then again dumb people trying to be know it alls here have never been hard to find.

Yeah, and you always manage to go it one better. "Idiocrocy" thanks for the ongoing laughs....

 

[Granite45]

nonsense. might as well play flag football then. eliminate contact altogether.

Rather a non-sequitur, certainly a false comparison.

Modifying the behavior of players or the rules to reduce injuries does not eliminate hitting. My earlier point was about eliminating unnecessary hits, as with eliminating personal foul hits or hits after the whistle. Just as players play with emotion, they are also expected to control the extent of emotions to avoid penalties. Likewise, players like Decker could/should be able to recognize that other players, such as Jaylon Smith, are away from the plat even with back towards the play, as for Smith, and recognize the hit was not needed. This has nothing to do with normal hits so your comment on flag football is irrelevant, even illogical.

Rules may change, player behavior has to follow. The nature of any activity.

 

[Granite45]

If he can't play football in the NFL, he is going to have the time and $ to complete his degree if he needs to do so.

No disagreement, but there is no requirement he finish his degree at Notre Dame. That is up to him. So the comment that he will have his ND degree to fall back upon is not certain, but still likely up to him.

 

[echowaker]

Rather a non-sequitur, certainly a false comparison.

Modifying the behavior of players or the rules to reduce injuries does not eliminate hitting. My earlier point was about eliminating unnecessary hits, as with eliminating personal foul hits or hits after the whistle. Just as players play with emotion, they are also expected to control the extent of emotions to avoid penalties. Likewise, players like Decker could/should be able to recognize that other players, such as Jaylon Smith, are away from the plat even with back towards the play, as for Smith, and recognize the hit was not needed. This has nothing to do with normal hits so your comment on flag football is irrelevant, even illogical.

Rules may change, player behavior has to follow. The nature of any activity.

smith was pursuing the play as he should. decker was at the second level looking to block and assist his runner as he should. you can't play the game tentatively. smith was injured unfortunately. end of story. no rules need to changed. you can't legislate against bad luck.

 

[cgvr]

smith was pursuing the play as he should. decker was at the second level looking to block and assist his runner as he should. you can't play the game tentatively. smith was injured unfortunately. end of story. no rules need to changed. you can't legislate against bad luck.

We may need better perturbation training.

Tranquill, Smith, Folston....very freaky.....