Yeah. And he did it again this season. Saban is a defensive head coach and Tommy is a young pretty inexperienced OC. And his 3 years like you have said many times was average
Edit, you can also add Pete Carroll who did it as well
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Edit, you can also add Pete Carroll who did it as well
I know a young OC can end up being amazing quickly… just don’t love the risk of it not working with how good 2023’s offense should be
Something about that comment made me pause, so I looked it up, and it doesn't appear to me that ND ever had a better four-year stretch under Moore than it did under Hiestand. If he started in '88, over four years the team finished 43-7. I don't think you can put together a four-year stretch where the team ever did better than 44-6. Of course, you can argue that ND played tougher schedules back then.
I would love to hear your opinion on Hiestand. No doubt he got guys ready for the next level, but I was always unimpressed by his lines' inability to run the ball when they really needed to. They also seemed to have trouble when defenses didn't play them straight up. As an example, I'd cite the USC game last year. We should have been able to push that team up and down the field the entire game, and yet we struggled.
They were rebuilding under a new coach, and lacking in talent.
I agree…and the list of potential transfers is long! The interest in the starting guard from Maryland surprised me. I’d like to think we have better guys on our bench, and Rudolph has to either support this recruitment effort or turn it off damn near immediately. If we do bring him on board, I hope there has been dialogue with Rocco to gauge interest, willingness, and ability to move to defensive nose.
SInce Golson does not like it I am encouraged
They had 4 returning OL and their rushing and offensive numbers went down. I understand why the fans would say that
Oline is about a lot more than just coaching technique. The oc and ol coach have to be on the same page. The talent takes time if going through a scheme switch.
Putting one sub par year in at a dumpster fire like VT, isn't that damning. Old boy was a recruiting machine at Wisconsin and their teams were physical and pushed guys around. If that comes to ND it's a home run...
The years before at Wisconsin they ran for more yards than his years there.... they actually went down if you compare his 6 years there to the previous 6
Recruiting isn't that important at OL. ND recruits itself. You need a master of technique and someone who instills physicality on the line and then the end results.
We'll see. He's a quality hire no doubt. Just not the home run people make him out to be imo
Hope he proves to be that home run we need it
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1. Yes I watch the driskell show too. He gave tons of stats and isn't a fan. He honestly seems more upset they didn't pick the guy he wanted and reported they were looking at.
2. Everyone conveniently talks about the 6 previous years .. but they don't mention that includes Melvin Gordon.
3. We also ignore the coaching changes that hit Wisconsin in succession post 2011... HC, oc, DC left... Then 2015 new head coach and oc again...
Cherry picking stats...
Stats are the stats. 6 years is a big body of work and then the 1 year at VTech. Thats a lot of data.
I think you are forgetting about a guy named Jonathan Taylor who was the back for Wisky during his years. Maybe the best rb in the nfl. And corey clement
Dont you be cherry picking players and stats now.... come on you are better than that
Your are right, but that was 2017....
The point is, everything works together and there are reasons outside of oline that contribute to the stats of the running game.
The fact James Conner, Johnathon Taylor, etc had great success under his lines is enough for me to accept he can coach an oline to run block.
Put him at ND with the talent increase and I'm very optimistic.
That may be true, but their overall talent was very depleted. They lost a slew of transfers before Pry took over. So they probably were lacking at the skill positions.
I dont think he'll have a talent increase at rb
Taylor was there for 3 years not just 2017
I think he can coach but there is cause for pause that the OLs at Wisky were better than his and VTs was better the year before he arrived
There could be reasons for all of that but still causes some concern
It is the wrong stat. You have to find out how Wisconsin ran compared to the average ypc the other teams were expected to gain.
Ahh, making up stuff again. Never said it. We have really good backs. Im a huge Estime fan
None are Jonathan Taylor, yet
Happy to read the visit by Lunsford is off. just hard for me to accept he is as good as several Of our guys waiting to compete for the two guard openings.
43-7 with a national championship and far tougher schedules. From 88-91, Notre Dame was playing 9-10 top 25 teams and 3-4 top 5-10 teams. You can't compare those schedules to ND 2017-2020.
He's got a big month ahead for sure. Ol isn't deep this year. We need bodies, but nothing is going to be really needle moving this year. Next year's has a really deep ol class and we will see what he can do, because we will need tackles and guards. If we land three of our targets this year it will be fine. No reason to waste schollies on guys that lower the bar.
I’ve been hearing we are not the front runner for Lambert anymore. Hope that’s not true. But everyone seems to be wondering what Rudolph is doing. AW is getting a lot of heat. Even IB today was an Al Washington bash fest. I get some of the frustration, but I really don’t think AW is doing that horrible of a job. If he misses Scott and Rushing, seems to be ignoring Scott, and/or loses a current commit I will probably be hating on AW. If the DL regresses again this year, that will factor back into my concerns. But I am more perplexed with the Rudolph hire and pretty concerned about his recruiting to be honest. We are one of the OL U’s. We usually are in the mix for 5 star OL. We shall see I guess.
Why? Thomas is the only recruit in the 22 or 23 class that were in his/NDs top choices that he landed. That could change with Rushing/Scott. You could maybe make a case that young was, but that's obviously a unique situation.
There's a lot of talent on the dline this year, just not the huge run stuffing bodies. We'll know how he's doing with how Botelho, mills, cross, rubio, onye, ford, gobaira, burnham, etc play. Our dline was not that good last year.
Nonsense
Vernon, Traore, Houstan and Mukam is a very very good class. Top 10 nationally
Thomas, Young, Mullins, Sevillano is another very very good class. And they are still battling for 2 elite studs
8 commits in not even 2 full years. 5 four stars, 3 three stars. Although everyone thinks Mullins gets a big bump soon
He's doing very very well at recruiting so far. And first commit in the 25 class in another good DL
Keep it up Al
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