Playing the Young Guys

[IrishMike409]

Another good article today on IB about Freeman’s plan to play the young guys.

Who gets time in the rotation and maybe emerges into a back half of the year starter? Excluding sure fire guys like Morrison, and Shrauth, and Merriweather….

Staes
Ziegler
Sneed
Price
Love
The freshman WRs

 

[sjb75]

Play the guys that allow the team the best chance to win. Period. I trust Marcus Freeman will do just that.

 

[Patrirish]

Play the guys that allow the team the best chance to win. Period. I trust Marcus Freeman will do just that.

That’s correct !

I‘m not aware of a coach that doesn’t play his best, most talented players, other than for disciplinary reasons.

 

[Golson5]

That’s correct !

I‘m not aware of a coach that doesn’t play his best, most talented players, other than for disciplinary reasons.

Coaches make personnel mistakes all the time. It happens.

No coach has ever been perfect

 

[Patrirish]

Coaches make personnel mistakes all the time. It happens.

No coach has ever been perfect

First, that’s not the issue.

The issue is about the premeditated decision to play younger guys.

When did you become better qualified than the coaching staff when it comes to determining who should play ?

 

[jcswoopnh]

Goldens schemes were/are too complicated for most younger players. They were too busy thinking instead of playing.
Rees ...I have no idea why he didn't play the younger guys more

 

[Golson5]

First, that’s not the issue.

The issue is about the premeditated decision to play younger guys.

When did you become better qualified than the coaching staff when it comes to determining who should play ?

Ask the coach. Hes the one who said the plan to play the young guys

And it is an issue. Sometimes coaches get in love with their scheme and make it too complicated. If your scheme is too complex where the younger faster more athletic guys can't get on the field, thats a coaching issue

I wish MF was the HC but also the DC. His style was to be less complicated and let the players drive the defense

Less thinking more attacking

 

[FightingIrish44]

Goldens schemes were/are too complicated for most younger players. They were too busy thinking instead of playing.
Rees ...I have no idea why he didn't play the younger guys more

I don’t agree with his schemes being too complicated. They’re not even his schemes. This is Freeman’s defense all the way except for (probably) calling plays.

I don’t think its that the players were too busy thinking either. There were times where the defenders attacked and it still resulted in good gains for the offense. It was just too much blitzing and stunting in my opinion. Guessing wrong.

 

[Golson5]

I don’t agree with his schemes being too complicated. They’re not even his schemes. This is Freeman’s defense all the way except for (probably) calling plays.

I don’t think its that the players were too busy thinking either. There were times where the defenders attacked and it still resulted in good gains for the offense. It was just too much blitzing and stunting in my opinion. Guessing wrong.

Too much Golden influence. Not enough Freeman

They put too much in last year. This isn't the nfl

 

[sjb75]

Too much Golden influence. Not enough Freeman

They put too much in last year. This isn't the nfl

Email Marcus Freeman and voice your concern.

 

[jcswoopnh]

Email Marcus Freeman and voice your concern.

Your jealousy is starting to show again.....

 

[jcswoopnh]

I don’t agree with his schemes being too complicated. They’re not even his schemes. This is Freeman’s defense all the way except for (probably) calling plays.

I don’t think its that the players were too busy thinking either. There were times where the defenders attacked and it still resulted in good gains for the offense. It was just too much blitzing and stunting in my opinion. Guessing wrong.

Agree to disagree. MF gave his coaches a little too much leeway. He won't make the same mistakes again

 

[sjb75]

Your jealousy is starting to show again.....

????

 

[Golson5]

Email Marcus Freeman and voice your concern.

Thank you Mrs Freeman

 

[Patrirish]

Ask the coach. Hes the one who said the plan to play the young guys

And it is an issue. Sometimes coaches get in love with their scheme and make it too complicated. If your scheme is too complex where the younger faster more athletic guys can't get on the field, thats a coaching issue

I wish MF was the HC but also the DC. His style was to be less complicated and let the players drive the defense

Less thinking more attacking

So you adhere to the coaching philosophy that you should play your younger players over your more experienced, more talented players ?

Interesting concept.

What coach has adopted that theory as their fundamental coaching philosophy ?

 

[Patrirish]

Goldens schemes were/are too complicated for most younger players. They were too busy thinking instead of playing.
Rees ...I have no idea why he didn't play the younger guys more

“Schemes” are a totally separate subject.

Every coach wants his most talented players starting, not sitting on the bench while less talented players gain experience.

That move is reserved for the 4th quarter when you have a comfortable lead.

 

[Golson5]

So you adhere to the coaching philosophy that you should play your younger players over your more experienced, more talented players ?

Interesting concept.

What coach has adopted that theory as their fundamental coaching philosophy ?

You didn't understand the concept

The younger guys are the more talented guys. They are more athletic

So you didnt even understand the premise.

Getting old there patty

 

[Patrirish]

You didn't understand the concept

The younger guys are the more talented guys. They are more athletic

So you didnt even understand the premise.

Getting old there patty

That’s absolutely untrue and a clear contradiction to the premise

If they were more talented they’d be playing by virtue of their talent, not their age !

Younger guys aren’t inherently more talented than older, more experienced players and Tom Brady is living proof of that.

……….. experience counts .. .. a lot !

 

[jcswoopnh]

That’s absolutely untrue and a clear contradiction to the premise

If they were more talented they’d be playing by virtue of their talent, not their age !

Younger guys aren’t inherently more talented than older, more experienced players and Tom Brady is living proof of that.

……….. experience counts .. .. a lot !

Pat, I thought you stopped smoking crack? What happened,

 

[Patrirish]

You didn't understand the concept

The younger guys are the more talented guys. They are more athletic

So you didnt even understand the premise.

Getting old there patty

If that was true, which it isn’t, every starting roster would be comprised of ONLY Freshman

 

[Patrirish]

Pat, I thought you stopped smoking crack? What happened,

When I saw how incredibly stupid crack smokers like you and the others were, I decided that smoking crack had damaged your brains and that I’d better give it up before it damaged mine !

 

[Chitown11]

If that was true, which it isn’t, every starting roster would be comprised of ONLY Freshman

You are starting to remind me of our "idiot in chief" who is losing his mind. You just like to argue, he didn't say all younger guys have more talent but rather some of the younger guys on ND ROSTER have more talent. Reading comprehension is not one of your strong points obviously

 

[Patrirish]

You are starting to remind me of our "idiot in chief" who is losing his mind. You just like to argue, he didn't say all younger guys have more talent but rather some of the younger guys on ND ROSTER have more talent. Reading comprehension is not one of your strong points obviously

He NEVER used the word “some” !

It‘s you who lacks reading comprehension skills.

Talent and talent alone should determine who starts, not age !

 

[Chitown11]

He NEVER used the word “some” !

It‘s you who lacks reading comprehension skills.

Talent and talent alone should determine who starts, not age !

Like I said you have to have some reading comprehension skills and you would know exactly what he was talking about. No shit genius, I think thats also what he was referring to when he said the younger guys had more talent, therfore they should play. You just want to argue with the guy for the sake of arguing,

 

[Patrirish]

Like I said you have to have some reading comprehension skills and you would know exactly what he was talking about. No shit genius, I think thats also what he was referring to when he said the younger guys had more talent, therfore they should play. You just want to argue with the guy for the sake of arguing,

Not at all and you’re just speculating when it comes to thinking that you know what he was thinking.

Unlike you, I have yet to develop Kreskin like skills, so I have to rely on what he typed and not what you think he meant.

Younger, inexperienced players who aren’t starting, aren starting because they’re not as talented as the more experienced starters.

Have someone explain that to you and to him.
“Talent”, not age is the determining factor.

 

[Golson5]

That’s absolutely untrue and a clear contradiction to the premise

If they were more talented they’d be playing by virtue of their talent, not their age !

Younger guys aren’t inherently more talented than older, more experienced players and Tom Brady is living proof of that.

……….. experience counts .. .. a lot !

More talent does not mean coaches will put those players in.

A lot of times they go with experience over talent

 

[sjb75]

More talent does not mean coaches will put those players in.

A lot of times they go with experience over talent

I like to think that Marcus Freeman will go with the player that allows the team the best chance to win.

 

[Golson5]

I like to think that Marcus Freeman will go with the player that allows the team the best chance to win.

I'm sure all coaches do that. Sometimes they are wrong with those decisions

 

[Patrirish]

More talent does not mean coaches will put those players in.

A lot of times they go with experience over talent

Then you should be able to cite those times and the players involved.

 

[Patrirish]

I'm sure all coaches do that. Sometimes they are wrong with those decisions

Cite those times.

 

[sjb75]

I'm sure all coaches do that. Sometimes they are wrong with those decisions

I'll go with the game day personnel decisions of Marcus Freeman, who sees his players at practice day in, day out, to play the players that allows the team the best chance to win.

 

[Patrirish]

I'll go with the game day personnel decisions of Marcus Freeman, who sees his players at practice day in, day out, to play the players that allows the team the best chance to win.

That’s a prudent position

 

[Golson5]

I'll go with the game day personnel decisions of Marcus Freeman, who sees his players at practice day in, day out, to play the players that allows the team the best chance to win.

I would to. Doesnt mean he or the coaches dont make mistakes. They all do.

 

[Golson5]

Cite those times.

Theres thousands.

But I'll give you one just for my amusement

The greatest QB who ever lived was in a position battle as a senior at Michigan. He was getting pulled in games and losing some playing time to Drew Henson

Why in the hell would a coach play Drew Henson and sit Brady in certain situations. Lloyd Carr later admitted he was wrong but what in the hell was he thinking

Just one amusing example of a coaching personnel mistake

 

[IrishMike409]

Theres thousands.

But I'll give you one just for my amusement

The greatest QB who ever lived was in a position battle as a senior at Michigan. He was getting pulled in games and losing some playing time to Drew Henson

Why in the hell would a coach play Drew Henson and sit Brady in certain situations. Lloyd Carr later admitted he was wrong but what in the hell was he thinking

Just one amusing example of a coaching personnel mistake

Pretty damn good example

 

[Patrirish]

Theres thousands.

But I'll give you one just for my amusement

The greatest QB who ever lived was in a position battle as a senior at Michigan. He was getting pulled in games and losing some playing time to Drew Henson

Why in the hell would a coach play Drew Henson and sit Brady in certain situations. Lloyd Carr later admitted he was wrong but what in the hell was he thinking

Just one amusing example of a coaching personnel mistake

That wasn’t a mistake.

At the time Brady hadn’t developed into the player he later became and Henson was deemed to be the better choice.

20-20 hindsight makes everyone

 

[Patrirish]

Pretty damn good example

Not really.

 

[Golson5]

That wasn’t a mistake.

At the time Brady hadn’t developed into the player he later became and Henson was deemed to be the better choice.

20-20 hindsight makes everyone

Ooh you're so wrong. Brady was much better that year. The team was much better when he was in opposed to Henson. The coach admitted he screwed up.

Henson wasnt deemed to be the better choice. Brady was. They split time until Carr finally stopped with his nonsense and let Brady play full games

You are clueless in the situation. Really pathetic

 

[Golson5]

Not really.

To someone who cant admit they were wrong it wasnt. To everyone else it was

 

[Patrirish]

Ooh you're so wrong. Brady was much better that year. The team was much better when he was in opposed to Henson. The coach admitted he screwed up.

Henson wasnt deemed to be the better choice. Brady was. They split time until Carr finally stopped with his nonsense and let Brady play full games

You are clueless in the situation. Really pathetic

You‘re wrong again.

Brady came into his own over time and not when he was a Senior at Michigan

if Brady was so good in his Senior year why wasn’t he the number 1 draft pick ?

Why was he only selected in the 6th round ?
Why was he the 199th draft pick if he was so outstanding in his Senior year. ?

Drew Henson was a higher pick than Brady in the NFL draft

And why didn’t Brady start his rookie year with the Pattiots ?
He played in one game his rookie year.
He was 1 for 3 for 6 yards.

Brady improved and peaked with time and not when he was at Michigan