Players now have demands
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ok. I do have a life outside of college football.
Regardless how old it is the insanity is expanding
Very interesting topic. I dug a bit: https://www.essentiallysports.com/n...-alleged-forty-five-k-florida-intel-surfaces/
The main point I got from this article and situation so far is in this quote: Number 1 [reason] is I just want to play for a team that fits me a little more…I was looking to play for an aggressive four-down defense, and that’s something that Blake Baker and LSU are 100% running.
As we keep noting, this is evolving into a fully professional contractual and transactional arrangement. Where football is the priority, not academics. Hell, academics apparently mean ZERO. He sure isn't talking about which school offers a most suitable academic fit and career path.
ND can exploit this changing landscape. Pay the money. Offer a degree and counsel to invest the money. ROI in the S&P500. Build a life program, making it much more than just a brief semipro money grab...being part of a long line of Fighting Irish tradition.
The main point I got from this article and situation so far is in this quote: Number 1 [reason] is I just want to play for a team that fits me a little more…I was looking to play for an aggressive four-down defense, and that’s something that Blake Baker and LSU are 100% running.
As we keep noting, this is evolving into a fully professional contractual and transactional arrangement. Where football is the priority, not academics. Hell, academics apparently mean ZERO. He sure isn't talking about which school offers a most suitable academic fit and career path.
ND can exploit this changing landscape. Pay the money. Offer a degree and counsel to invest the money. ROI in the S&P500. Build a life program, making it much more than just a brief semipro money grab...being part of a long line of Fighting Irish tradition.
Until there is a collective bargaining agreement in place the free for all will continue. It will never, ever be what it used to be again. That's the reality.
Academics are there for those who choose to take advantage of it. The massive amounts of money generated have made the academic side of things secondary. Let's be honest a lot of athletes wouldn't be there if their athletic abilities weren't the priority of the school. Every school has kids on athletic scholarship who likely would not have been accepted without that ability. Yes it's going the " professional " model regardless of how any of us feel about it.Very interesting topic. I dug a bit: https://www.essentiallysports.com/n...-alleged-forty-five-k-florida-intel-surfaces/
The main point I got from this article and situation so far is in this quote: Number 1 [reason] is I just want to play for a team that fits me a little more…I was looking to play for an aggressive four-down defense, and that’s something that Blake Baker and LSU are 100% running.
As we keep noting, this is evolving into a fully professional contractual and transactional arrangement. Where football is the priority, not academics. Hell, academics apparently mean ZERO. He sure isn't talking about which school offers a most suitable academic fit and career path.
ND can exploit this changing landscape. Pay the money. Offer a degree and counsel to invest the money. ROI in the S&P500. Build a life program, making it much more than just a brief semipro money grab...being part of a long line of Fighting Irish tradition.
I totally agree. My main recurring point is it's better to do this openly than under the table. The SEC era will be an outlier due to an asterisk on the latter fact...they cheated their way into superiority.
In open daylight, cue the blue bloods who are realizing the true power of their pockets.
And sure, academics mean jack. So be it with dispelling illusions. But like I said, there still might be a place for intelligent student-athletes concentrated at a program and school like Notre Dame.
Growing up, I visited Yugoslavia and my ancestral Croatia. The best soccer players happened to be the hooligans cutting school and playing all day on the streets. 70s and 80s. But the tide turned with soccer academies and more science in the sport.
The best players now combine raw street play, academy honing, and, yes, some tailored HS academics...as soccer is as much a cerebral game of position and timing as skill and athleticism. Croatia with 4M people thrives in the sport.
Notre Dame just might also do this in college football. Combining sports, raw grit, with relative, progressive scholarship for young men more idealistic about their lives. Thriving on beating the barbarians.
"Academics are there for those who choose to take advantage of it."
LMFAO at this.......
Getting an education at a university?
Why else would you be there?
Oh c'mon. You know better. It's a pathway to a professional sports career. That's the main reason a lot of them are there. The academic part is secondary to many.
Both of you make good points. Of course it would be ideal attending a college means attending class and getting a good GPA. Of course many athletes just don't care to do so.
More so when accommodated.
Famous Caesar saying: the die is cast. No going back. The fans ultimately decide if this will work out.
From what I can see, they love it. Circus Maximus. Many fans didn't attend college, much less the colleges they root for.
I know they just got blown out, but watch what SMU does when it comes to NIL and player demands. Those good ol' boy billionaires have been waiting 40 years to throw around money like this.
C'mon you know that only applies to the 1.6%
Start a freak minor league for them
"Many fans didn't attend college, much less the colleges they root for."
Because at a time it wasn't a business
Well, if what you say is true, they’re paying the wrong players.
Why would the NFL do that ? The current system fits them quite well. Now the other sports do have other options.
I could careless about the NFL
What's happen in college football the harms are only starting to be noticed
For starters I know you could careless about the bowl games, but you know who does?
The communities, and businesses who benefited from them.
Who's liable for those losses?
Why is it the players who were getting a free education to benefit them (and I'm sure they were recieveing other perks) were the only ones seemed to be harmed by the courts ruling?
There is far more damage being done to those not in the spotlight
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Yep, and it's the only pathway. You have to be 3 years removed from HS. There isn't another option to the NFL other than playing in college.
I wish academics were a bigger piece everywhere, and I wish there was rules being followed and policed regarding NIL and the portal.
Even our great ND is doing things like setting up deals for players behind the scenes, finding easier pathways (still harder than most) academically for players, and making ND a place to use to get to the NFL, WHILE getting an education. ND kids still have to do school work, at many large state schools you practically don't have to do anything academically to stay eligible with online classes now being utilized more than ever.
I don't like the current state, but the small percentage aren't a concern. They are not taking anything away from traditional academics for students.
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Yes but those are the folks most responsible for the revenue coming in. The absolute malfeasance by the NCAA for far too many years has resulted in what is transpiring today. Collective bargaining is the only solution in my opinion. Having agreed upon barriers in place is paramount.
Academics are the least of their concerns, but you have totally missed the common thread of college football. They used to walk among the the students now those who represent the 1 6%, and the delusional who think they have a chance at the NFL will continue to tear every fabric of this until it's unrecognizable, and some in the fanbase are willfully whistling past the graveyard.
And this is just a part of it . What of the harms to the structures of who where supported by college football, and now will lose a financial part that have supported college football fir decades?
All this for the 1.6% who were never being taken advantage of
Those players are not responsible for the revenue coming in and I can't believe that you are that naive to believe that.
When I would go to ND games I would go to see the team not an individual
I learned the definition of an individual in the USMC, and you know who the individual is? Someone drown who's all by themselves
Now you bring up collective bargaining
The universities have all the power if it comes to that, and I hope to hell they play hard ball,
because nothing says college football like picket line strikes now does it
Agree. If the 1.6% went off to form a semi-pro league, college stadiums would still be sold out on Saturdays.
I mean the best players drive the product and the revenue. No one is buying a #4 jersey in the Notre Dame bookstore if that's the punters number. How popular is that team without NFL potential quality players ? It goes hand in hand. Without NFL quality players ND doesn't get an exclusive contract with NBC. I highly doubt that would have debuted in the Davie, Willingham,Weis run. Thankfully the contract was in place. The best players drive the product.
They do sell out and they play in venues much, much smaller and don't generate nearly as many viewers or come close to even a pittance of the revenue the CFP does.
Probably. The TV revenue would be much less also I would imagine as a league as you suggest would get a ton of that money. The 1.6 % aren't going anywhere. They're getting paid now finally. Some fringe NFL guys are more likely to utilize all of their available eligibility. That's a good thing I believe.
I disagree. When it comes to colleges, individuals have that affinity to their schools. It doesn't matter who the players are it's about the school they went too. Look at Army, Navy, and many of the FBS schools that don't have NFL caliber players, they still sellout games. Broadcasting companies would still pay because there would still be eyeballs watching their teams.
💯. College Football is now professional sports and academics is secondary to many of the players. Almost none of players would earn 45k, like the player above, a month if they entered the workforce after graduating. Even in the Ivy League, acceptance rates are exponentially higher for athletes than non-athletes.
LOL, so once there's a collective bargaining system in place, the under-the-table cheating can return to provide a little bonus over the amount of money players are receiving contractually.
Agree but the team wins or loses the game, and the best players still got to the NFL, with an education
BTW no one cares what number is on a ND jersey because it's the name on the sleeve that matters and ND rarely put names on the back So who that number was referring is meaningless year in year out
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Well when the players start going on strike due to collective bargaining that viewership will grow, and the games are just as if not more competitive
That financial statement might be true in the short term, but over the long term it would be much more, while that guy above will be making a living at McDonald's
To get paid while getting a free education is an opportunity of a lifetime but many players will squander the opportunity. Players like Riley are setting up themselves to have a great successful life and career.
