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OT: Winston vs Mariota, who do you prefer?

Originally posted by Nocalirish:
Winston is a true Criminole and will be out of the league in two years or sooner. Mariota is class. Winston is trash.
I'll do it...

Criminoles. lol
 
I am beginning to think Epic is really another Argusman alias; all these ID's: trying to hide somthing?
 
Originally posted by perseverare:
I am beginning to think Epic is really another Argusman alias; all these ID's: trying to hide somthing?
Where have you been? Old news.
 
Winston is the better pro QB and will rate very high. . He is probably the best in a long while and an immediate starter
 
Here is a good article where two out of three 'experts" say Mariota will be the best pick. I see it as a no brainer due to the issues which dog Winston, but I'll stick with Polian, Mortenson and Tony Dungy, all who say Mariota is the best option.


http://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/sports/college/univ-oregon/2015/02/23/mariota-shines-combine-top-pick-still-unclear/23913629/
 
So here is the link to the segment referenced in the paper from Oregon:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12360532

Polian and Mort don't say they believe Mariota will be taken first or that he is a better prospect. You want to throw shade on Winston so much that you will just use any article you can. I think the Onion Sports page has some good stuff you could use.
 
I think it would be expected that a newspaper in Oregon would pick MM over JW. That's pretty normal and predictable.

The question I have is why can't a poster lean toward a QB other than JW without being attacked here on a ND message board?

Some posters seem to have an extreme man crush on JW. Why this love affair with Rapey McRapist? Can't posters prefer another QB without being attacked or having their motive attacked?

Perhaps some retrospection by some of JW's fanbase to understand why the bromance with a rapist.

Good luck with that.

This post was edited on 2/27 11:20 AM by john0gaunt
 
Listen argus, everyone knows johno is another handle of yours'.

Quite frankly, you'd do better to stick to bb guns and crab legs as you know little about football.

It's almost like you've never watched a game.

The statistics you recently referenced on strength of schedule proves that you have no awareness of reality.

Please stick to your childish fsu obsession and leave the football related stuff to everyone else.

You add nothing......
 
cgmr - Thanks for answering the question.

It's just a mancrush and you are helpless to stop it. I understand.

Since you seem OK with constant abusive behavior towards posters and name calling, I think I'll start calling you Mrs. Rapey McRapist from now on.

Go Irish!

This post was edited on 2/27 11:35 AM by john0gaunt
 
Originally posted by john0gaunt:
I think it would be expected that a newspaper in Oregon would pick MM over JW. That's pretty normal and predictable.

The question I have is why can't a poster lean toward a QB other than JW without being attacked here on a ND message board?

Some posters seem to have an extreme man crush on JW. Why this love affair with Rapey McRapist? Can't posters prefer another QB without being attacked or having their motive attacked?

Perhaps some retrospection by some of JW's fanbase to understand why the bromance with a rapist.

Good luck with that.

This post was edited on 2/27 11:20 AM by john0gaunt
Epic and his "friends" are a cancer to the board. He wants to use any platform he can to promote an anti-Winston and anti-FSU agenda on this board and the end result is that it brings Nole posters over here from warchant who then troll/flame ND posters all season to get back at this fool.

Further, lets be clear demanding at least some form of integrity from Epic and his "friends" and not allowing them to just make up sources or say "X" states this when X never says that is not engaging in a love affair with JW. The majority of us don't care about JW we care about Epic being shut down and embarrassed for the clown he is.

Finally, you probably mean perspective not retrospection.
 
Who are you to decide which topics can be discussed and which cannot? Which schools are to be admired and respected and which should not.

You have a love affair with a rapist and his school. That's your choice and you are welcome to it.

I mean retrospection. I don't need you to proofread my posts. Again, you might want to spend some time in retrospection as to why you have devoted so much time to defending an accused rapist.

Go Irish!
 
As stated, you'd do well to avoid all ND related football/other topics as you are not well versed or knowledgeable.

You just end up making yourself look more foolish. (That's something I didn't think possible).

Please continue with your Don Quixote like bb gun, crab legs...meanderings/ramblings.

Sadly, you are not very well versed on that topic either.

PS Enjoy your round of golf or lunch with Lou today....
 
I am not sure how stating I wish there was no JW or FSU talk on this board unless it was ND related is engaging in a love affair with an alleged rapist and FSU. I believe in some form of academic integrity and Epic shits all over the theory that we can come to a board and participate in some form of good faith debate over ND football.

Saying I am tired of BS and lying isn't the same thing as defending JW. Please tell us why we should view Epic's actions as legitimate since you and him are so close.
 
SAL: epic, argus, smoke, johno, 86, marty, leonidas... and tons of others of his handles are simply the scourge of ND.

This poster is the single most selfish self absorbed individual any football board has ever seen.

He could care less about anyone here. Nor does he care about ND.

He regularly spits on Notre Dame.

His agenda is a simple one. It's to downgrade everyone's experience on a daily basis.

Simply ignoring him doesn't work because he crops up new handles faster than Paris Hilton does bed partners.

This board could be so entertaining and fun, but it is mired in the obsessively sick fsu agenda of a rudderless, hopeless moronic fool.

epic should take a hike for a week and let this board re establish its' ND football water line.

He won't though because he's a selfish ignorant prick.

This post was edited on 2/27 1:22 PM by cgvr
 
cgmr, err, Mrs Rapey MacRapist, why the constant personal attacks? I would put you on ignore but I enjoy working you up into a hissy fit. Do thoughts of JW being with a woman upset you and make you jealous?

Whatever the reason, for most people it got better after high school and being picked on all day. I guess not for you? Perhaps come out of the closet?

Interesting you mention golf with Lou, I have met Lou, but we didn't play golf. He came to the home of a friend of mine he was recruiting I also met Bob Davie, and Chuck Strong, and Urban Myer, and Coach Mattison. If you weren't such a fool, you could figure out the year that was.

Hope this upsets you even more. Good night Mrs Rapey MacRapist.


Go Irish!
 
There's no hissy fit here you jerkoff.

You are an ignorant selfish scumbag that pollutes this board with nonstop fsu incoherence.

Well done...

I guarantee Lou Holtz would knock you into the middle of next week and part your hair with a pee stream for the crap you post...

It's so self serving for you to imply that there is anything emotional about my posts.

You can read it with any tone you'd like.

I am simply stating fact after fact.

You're worthless and a major league ignorant douche.
 
Whatever you say Mrs Rapey MacRapist. But there I was, in the room with all the coaches. discussing ND football. You're a very tough guy behind that keyboard aren't you? Have a great day, ok princess?

Go Irish!

This post was edited on 2/27 2:35 PM by john0gaunt
 
You are so stupid that I guess you've just given up on saying that you're not argus.

Do folks a favor and post under one handle so you can be properly ignored.

As I said, you are nothing more than an fsu obsessed ignorant douche bag.

Good for you.
 
Another attack from Mrs Rapey MacRapist.

If you are going to call me Argus, it's a capital A for you, mmk princess?

BTW, douchebag is correctly spelled as one word. Please learn to spell.

Go Irish!

This post was edited on 2/27 12:51 PM by john0gaunt
 
You continue to enter new depths of stupidity.

Well done!

As I have stated, you are nothing more than a selfish, ignorant, fsu obsessed moron.


douche bag noun

1. a small syringe having detachable nozzles for fluid injections, used chiefly for vaginal lavage and for enemas.
2. Also called douche. Slang: Vulgar. a contemptible or despicable person. Also, douchebag.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/douche+bag
 
Learn to read Mrs Rapey MacRapist.

When you are using the slang, it is douche or douchebag. Although I would never question your expertise on the douch bag. You are the definition of douche.

2. Also called douche. Slang: Vulgar. a contemptible or despicable person. Also, douchebag.
 
Hey John, Why worry? They call me Argusman, I suppose it is just code for anyone kicking their asses. Funny stukk between the No1e hypocrites, cgvr masquerading as a Notre Dame fan and other who apparently can't read supplied links.

The team that takes Winston will be very sorry and I really do hope that Tampa Bay listens to Dungy, Morrtenson and Polian and skips on that dirt bag.
 
Thanks for the laugh.

Also, thanks for proving beyond any doubt that your idiocy knows no bounds.

You are beyond stupid.

It's one or the other.

You are an ignorant douche bag.

Thanks for proving it time and time again....

"Douche bag[/I], douchebag[/I], or simply douche[/I], is considered to be a pejorative term, referring to an arrogant or obnoxious person."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douche

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/douche%20bag




This post was edited on 2/27 3:14 PM by cgvr
 
Hey No1e/cgvr,

Tell us again why you hate Notre Dame while masquerading as a Notre Dame fan. You have been proven a liar as No1e and cgvr, but it remains a bit curious why you would attack Lou Holtz and Brian Kelly with lies and innuendo? Why? Is it just your insecurities or is it far more troubling as I suspect?
 
You are an ass wipe.

Why don't you go to board ops to verify that I am an ND alum?

I know, it's because you are stupid.

As I have stated, Wax invited me to post here.

Also, I never attacked Lou Holtz or Kelly with lies.

Would you care to back that up?

You are nothing more than an attention starved selfish ignorant fsu obsessed jackass.

You are also a major league douche bag.
 
Epic, agreed 100%

But anywhere there is any rational discussion about JW and his crimes brings cgmr, or Mrs Rapey MacRapist and noles with the little giant guy. From his screen name I'm pretty sure he drives a very large truck.

As far as who is the better QB, I don't know. I just think there is a great deal of pressure on the NFL to stop the rapes and domestic violence that drafting JW won't make the economic sense. This rape isn't going away unless he pays the girl off to be quiet. And that can't happen until after he gets paid. Otherwise, I'm a ND football fan. I could care less what happens in the league.

I bother because I love getting noles panties all twisted up.

Go Irish!

This post was edited on 2/27 3:43 PM by john0gaunt

This post was edited on 2/27 5:53 PM by john0gaunt
 
1. The love fest between you "two" guys is awesome never change.

2. The rape allegations aren't going to get prosecuted and good luck winning a civil case. JW will probably settle to end the matter sooner but the value of that girls claim against JW has been greatly diminished by the lack for criminal charges and the findings of the honor committee hearing.
 
No one knows which or if either will be a great NFL quarterback. I hapen to agree with Dungy, Polian, Mortesen and a growing number who see Mariota as a better prospect.

What we do know is that Winston is a bum and likely a rapist given the claims against him. I would never want to be in the same room with him, let alone subject myself with the drama and shame he will bring.
 
Me, I would prefer Everett Golson or Malik Zaire on my team. But that's just me. Again, I bet you have a real big truck.

Go Irish!
 
Winston and Mariota are even. Mariota got 38 TD. Winston got 24 TD. Both of them are even with pass yards. Mariota has over 600 yards rush. Winston has 80 yards rush. In NFL most of QB not need to run as rush.Most peoples love to play head game about Winston.I think Winston will still draft in 1 round because of he have great history with FSU as player.
 
Back on topic, come on guys!

Marcus Mariota is the obvious wise choice for the first QB pick.

Compared to Winston, MM is taller, faster, more athletic, has better stats, more accurate, more mature, smarter and certainly less likely to be a scar on the program.
 
I would take Winston. BTW word around the combine is that Winston has a very high football IQ.
 
It's not his "football" IQ people need to be worried about. It makes anyone wonder how stupid one can be when after molesting two women, we know about, stealing, vandalizing and showing his ass numerous times he still stands up on a table in a vulgar display in front of hundreds of people. That speaks of gross stupidity to say nothing of a bad and dangerous person.

You want him? Good luck!
 
Originally posted by BigFellaFan:

Back on topic, come on guys!

Marcus Mariota is the obvious wise choice for the first QB pick.

Compared to Winston, MM is taller, faster, more athletic, has better stats, more accurate, more mature, smarter and certainly less likely to be a scar on the program.
There's more stupidity in this thread being posted by totally ignorant fools than should be remotely possible. The only good news is 95% of the posters spewing such nonsense have the same mother, address and children. Just different names.

That poster has succeeded in turning this site into the laughing stock of all Rivals sites. Outside of his selves he commands no respect from anyone who is relevant.

Really pathetic one can't come here and engage in intelligent football or sport conversation anymore without the threads being hijacked and ruined by this sick obsessive clown(s) who keeps giving the real ND fans the finger.

And sadly the mods at this site can do little to stop this charade. Even when they finally have had enough of the BS and send his latest username to the cornfield he doesn't just come back with another username to continue the insanity he invents numerous new usernames agreeing with himself to confuse the mods even more infesting this site with more delusion and craziness.
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I'm afraid there is no answer to this ongoing infestation.
 
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