Hey idiot try watching the damn video and watch the whole thing. There is at least 3 or 4 fans reaching for the ball. Holy crap you are an idiot. Some one else has posted the video and you can clearly see other fans reaching for the ball. Are you as blind as a bat?Yeah, I never saw it....except for 1,000 times. If you could follow what I wrote, you'd realize I said that other fans were reaching for the ball. However, some weren't. If you follow the game, you should realize the gravity of the situation and allow a vital catch to be made. Look at the fans to the left of Bartman, they were backing away.
How can you watch the video and say other fans where not reaching for the ball? Bartman just happened to be the one closest to the ball.I think you're trying to read a bit too much into it. You can go to a video if you like. Who said anything about goats? Superstitions are silly, and the WS of 2017 should convert the most gullible. Put another way, the rabbit's foot didn't bring any luck to the rabbit.
Hey idiot try watching the damn video and watch the whole thing. There is at least 3 or 4 fans reaching for the ball. Holy crap you are an idiot. Some one else has posted the video and you can clearly see other fans reaching for the ball. Are you as blind as a bat?
How can you watch the video and say other fans where not reaching for the ball? Bartman just happened to be the one closest to the ball.
If they have a goat day, let's hope the wind is blowing out.Giving Bartman the ring is the right thing to do. The man endured enough through the years and it's about time to let it go!
I'm all for having a goat day, giving all goats a discount or even freebies, and maybe even a black cat day.
I'm 74 years old and a lifelong Cub fan and the number 108 or 1908 have no significance now. I'm glad they won it in my lifetime!
Absolutely!If they have a goat day, let's hope the wind is blowing out.
The goat, or at least his descendants, has had a good life over the years. I'm not sure if you live in Chicago, but there are Billy Goat's all over the greater Loop area in Chicago. An actual goat can sometimes be observed in some of the establishments. This makes me suspicious about where they're getting the beer.Absolutely!
You posted a picture of the Cubs fans backing away from the ball. However if you watch the VIDEO you will see several fans reaching for the ball. I guess using your logic they where "not that intelligent." You look like a fool posting that stupid picture then some one else calling you out. Do you have an emoji for that?There have been a lot of revisionist takes on Bartman over the passage of time, especially following the Cubs winning a World Series. Here's my take, which hasn't changed a bit since I, as a horrified Cubs fan, watched the murky aftermath of the play that rocketed him into notoriety. Had he not interfered with the ball, Alou almost certainly would have caught the second out, and with 2 outs and nobody on base, the Cubs would have been in a much better position to win the game and go to the WS. Other things contributed to the downfall--Gonzalez's botched handling of a double play, Prior losing his composure, and the failure in Game 7--but none of that erases the issue of Bartman's interference costing the team an almost sure out. I've heard people say that "it was doubtful" that Alou would have caught the ball. To that, BS!!!!, he was right there to make the play. I've also heard that anybody would have interfered. Again, BS!!!!!. While many would, there have been instances where fans have intelligently backed away and let their team's player make a play, and I'd think that that would be accentuated in a potential NLCS clinching game. Bartman was supposed to be an intelligent fan, as he played in a highly competitive amateur league. He should have known better to have done what he did. If you notice him in the video, you can see that he was wearing headphones, as he was listening to the game on the radio. This might have distracted him from where he was relative to a guy trying to make a play.
Bartman never deserved the abuse he received--his reaction in the moment was understandable--and the way he's handled himself has been class personified, but that still doesn't wash away his role in contributing to the Cubs downfall.
Those same fans who can be seen backing away from the ball in the picture that I posted can be seen doing just that in the video. Watch the slow motion replay and that categorically indicates that.You posted a picture of the Cubs fans backing away from the ball. However if you watch the VIDEO you will see several fans reaching for the ball. I guess using your logic they where "not that intelligent." You look like a fool posting that stupid picture then some one else call you out. Do you have an emoji for that?
Not for long. Just remember libby boy, if Cleveland has their No.2 and 3 starters for the series, the Flubs lose.Chicago Cubs!!! Reigning World Champs!!! Deal with it!!!!
LOL, I love the sour hypotheticals.Not for long. Just remember libby boy, if Cleveland has their No.2 and 3 starters for the series, the Flubs lose.
Because the majority of their fans started to like them when they were perennially garbage.Why would anyone think that a perennially winning team chock full of exciting players would fail to generate fan support in a major market?
You can think that if you want, but it's hard to take your view seriously when you admit that you've never lived anywhere near Chicago. BTW, "lovable loser" has never been a term Cubs fans have applied to their team. It was a label slapped on by the media.Because the majority of their fans started to like them when they were perennially garbage.
Well the fact that I have never lived around Chicago is exactly my point. It makes sense to be a Cubs fan if you are from the area...... they have a lot of fans around the country who supported a horrible franchise for a century.You can think that if you want, but it's hard to take your view seriously when you admit that you've never lived anywhere near Chicago. BTW, "lovable loser" has never been a term Cubs fans have applied to their team. It was a label slapped on by the media.
Your Cardinals hatred for the Cubs, no doubt fueled by the Cubs having roughed the Cardinals up pretty badly over the past few years, is duly noted. You talk about smart fans. I don't think a smart fan would believe that a team would lose support explicitly because it's winning. You can always hope, though.Well the fact that I have never lived around Chicago is exactly my point. It makes sense to be a Cubs fan if you are from the area...... they have a lot of fans around the country who supported a horrible franchise for a century.
And I never said the cubs called themselves the lovable losers? Doesn't matter who labeled them with that, it is true. The fans went and sold out the 'friendly confines' for decades supporting well below average baseball. That gave the owners no motivation to win, as they were making money hand over fist while putting out a crappy product in a very old, outdated, stadium.
A smart fan-base would never support a team that sucked that bad for that long.
Your Cardinals hatred for the Cubs, no doubt fueled by the Cubs having roughed the Cardinals up pretty badly over the past few years, is duly noted. You talk about smart fans. I don't think a smart fan would believe that a team would lose support explicitly because it's winning. You can always hope, though.
Ya, you guys have dominated the Central over the last 2 years. Congratulations.
ExactlyWell the fact that I have never lived around Chicago is exactly my point. It makes sense to be a Cubs fan if you are from the area...... they have a lot of fans around the country who supported a horrible franchise for a century.
And I never said the cubs called themselves the lovable losers? Doesn't matter who labeled them with that, it is true. The fans went and sold out the 'friendly confines' for decades supporting well below average baseball. That gave the owners no motivation to win, as they were making money hand over fist while putting out a crappy product in a very old, outdated, stadium.
A smart fan-base would never support a team that sucked that bad for that long.
Nothing worse than a libitard scrubs fan.Thank you. And over that time, we've increased our playoff series winning % over the Cardinals from 0% to 100%.
One thing worse is a hater writing in banal cliches.Nothing worse than a libitard scrubs fan.