Again, finishing roughly where you expect to finish is not worth celebrating.
If 9-3 ND was paired against 10-2 Cincy, would you be thrilled because of the "neat" match up? My guess is most ND fans would not think that was "awesome".
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Again, finishing roughly where you expect to finish is not worth celebrating.
If 9-3 ND was paired against 10-2 Cincy, would you be thrilled because of the "neat" match up? My guess is most ND fans would not think that was "awesome".
I would have been happy. Because ND only had 8 wins in Kelly's first year. Would have been happy to get another win. I bet we can get together and count on 1 hand the total times a HC has won a national championship in their first year at a program without being with that program in any capacity the prior year. So good luck. Those MSU, and Ohio State games might be really bad days for your entire year since you have this whole title or nothing thing going on. Hell Utah game might make for a terrible entire rest of your season. As a plus, I guess if they don't win at Utah, I won't see you flaming much on the national board.
Not first year. The 2015 Irish season. Would a "keen" bowl match more than make up for a middling regular season record?
And the same goes for you opening vs 2 TD underdog Texas. Lose there and maybe you will temporarily stop your flaming.
And the same goes for you opening vs 2 TD underdog Texas. Lose there and maybe you will temporarily stop your flaming.
Hold up, do you think Harbaugh has had 5 years to put his system in place at Michigan? Or that Kelly is in his first year ND. Every thing I have said between two different threads on separate boards has been about this being Harbaugh doing this in his first year. I have repeated it I don't know, a 1/2 dozen times. And yet you still haven't picked up on that?
And if you could, post here where I have flamed Michigan. Matter of fact, show where I have said anything negative about Michigan all the way back the last ND / Michigan game. I'll wait here for you to copy and post them.
There isn't a single UM fan I know who thinks we can/will win a title this year given the obvious strength of OSU and MSU, so I have no idea where you get this stuff. Go back to the top of the thread and tell me who is "flaming." In fact, you will see that the OP (me) didn't even leave a message but simply stated "nm". Always a shame to the few respectful posters when threads get littered with personal attacks and misrepresented statements. We're pretty happy to have Coach Harbaugh and I'm pretty sure that just about every other D1 program would be glad to have him too (save Bama, OSU and MSU) - including many here. And, no doubt, ND will continue to recruit well, particularly the OL. I don't recall saying that this was a huge loss to ND, just a fact that you all were recruiting BB as hard as we were.
You aren't seeing the whole story here. This started in another thread on another board.
I was looking at the ND / ACC bowl tie in's this morning and noticed that the Holiday Bowl in San Diego pits the #4 B1G team, vs the #3 PAC team. And made a thread on the national board mentioning it would be pretty awesome if we could see a Michigan / Stanford Holiday Bowl this year. Finishing that high in the B1G in the first year for Harbaugh I think would be pretty damn good. Considering all the hurdles he has to jump to get there. And the fact that Shaw has repeatedly stated he is successful as a HC because of the lessons he learned while working under Harbaugh. Meanwhile Sch decided that the thread shouldn't be about that at all and instead started to talk about Kelly, and pinned a picture of him during the USF game with his Grape Ape face. So I asked why he had such an obsession with looking at pictures of head coaches of another team.
I think that got under his skin. However I have to say, in that thread the more pictures I posted of Kelly, the less attitude he had. So I think it worked. Maybe I should have tried that here, instead of explaining myself, and using odd things like logic and reason.
"However I have to say, in that thread the more pictures I posted of Kelly, the less attitude he had. So I think it worked. Maybe I should have tried that here, instead of explaining myself, and using odd things like logic and reason."
I can't say I understand this retarded self-congratulations of yours. I suppose if you repeat it enough, it becomes true in your mind.
I can't say I understand this retarded self-congratulations of yours. I suppose if you repeat it enough, it becomes true in your mind.
Like every other BIG10 team .... overrated because they only play each other and MAC schools ..... They didn't beat one ranked team
You judge for yourself. I posted a bunch of pictures (after you decided that posting pictures of Kelly was important in that thread) and you pretty much stopped posting.
Where as here, I have not posted a single picture and you keep going on and on.
Michigan / Stanford in the Holiday Bowl Thread Link
Take a look and let me know where I said anything negative
Where as here, I have not posted a single picture and you keep going on and on.
Michigan / Stanford in the Holiday Bowl Thread Link
Take a look and let me know where I said anything negative
Deflection.
You granted me the sole power of judging and now you are attempting to escape my finding.
If you had stipulated that Stanford and Michigan would be meeting in the 2016 Rose Bowl, your argument would have merit.
Some one has to fill in the back end of the top 25... Memphis and Marshall both finished the season ranked last year without beating ranked teams as well.
Excuse us, ND fans, for posting on the ND site board; you are free to return to the UM site if you do not like the sentiments expressed here.
I would be fine with Michigan finishing 4th. I expect JH to do great things at Michigan but I know it will be a process. Finishing 4th would actually confirm that process is well on track because that would mean we were a win or two away from winning it with a roster that has some holes in it and wasn't built in JH s image.
Not a flame? Your afterburners were glowing bright blue as you rushed here to post this news. No flame at all.
But then, you have a right to chest pound. You guys have been nailing the 2*s recently. About time you got a top tier recruit.
247 composite. Still early, but not too bad.
http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
Stanford won't win the PAC this year. They will be lucky to finish with 9 wins. They replace some key players outside of QB. And have a pretty tough schedule.
@Northwestern
UCF
@USC
@Oregon State
Arizona
BYE
UCLA
Washington
@ Wazzu
@ Colorado
Oregon
California
ND
Can see losses to Oregon, Arizona, USC. Then it depends on what Peterson is getting out of his kids in Washington, and how the the UCLA game goes. By the way UCLA returns an O line that has over 110 combined starts together. With plenty of running power to get the job done. See that's the thing about taking the time to pose a statement. It seems like flaming to you because you want to play the defensive. I honestly think that if Harbaugh can manage his schedule. And get a Holiday Bowl Birth, and manage to line up against Shaw that would be a really fun game to see. For some reason you think it is title game or nothing. When Michigan has a tough road to ho to get to it. And could be pretty damn beat up by the time of 'The Game'. Which by the way, just about every one though Ohio State was a year ahead of schedule last year. So imagine what they have this year. Along with a very favorable schedule to line up for the Michigan.
I hope the kid makes the NFL because Walmart is laying off. Pure Michigan!
How else would you measure "excitement"? Team recruiting?
http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
