Oh Oh OH Oghoufo - Is this a trend?

[theskibro]

How about some analysis on this guy IIO?

If looks and limited film are indicators, Looks like a complete player.

Meanwhile, what is with the early commitments? I do not recall ND ever getting early commits anytime prior to about 2-3 years ago. Now it is becoming common. Assume these kids still take their visits for fun but still, this is very encouraging and kudos to the BK era

thoughts?

 

[BGI User 348]

Welcome to ND!!!!!

 

[1Redrum]

You can partially thank Showtime and A season with Notre Dame

 

[shooter1977]

I remember Mack Brown recruiting the best sophomore High School all-star team in the land. Problem was, those kids just developed early and many were busts at the college level. Hopefully Kelly and crew have a better eye for talent!

 

[D_Master]

part of the reason is that ND didnt allow kids to commit early due to academics I believe. I seem to remember hearing that yrs ago. Obviously ND has relaxed this over the past few yrs and will allow JRs to commit, even if they dont have everything in order yet, which is why you will see things like that RB from Texas that decommited a few yrs back(dont remember his name) and ended up going to some school like Texas St. It was never stated, but obviously he didnt clear admissions. That and now that the staff has adjusted, they are getting in w/ kids younger now which is leading to more commitments from younger kids.

And as for this kid, read on another board that people close to this kid think he will blow up this year into a national recruit. They compare his athleticism to Daelin Hayes and said he could end up playing anything from DE to SS depending on how a staff chooses to use him and build up his weight if needed. Hope they're right.

 

[D_Master]

when you add Malik Vann, who 247 rates as the 9th best DE, the 2018 class is starting to look really solid really early. Now I know he hasnt committed and there's a looong way to go. But i've seen people say they think he will join the class at some point. Having a ton of talent outside of SEC country in the '18 class is going to help us out big time.

 

[perseverare]

How about some analysis on this guy IIO?

If looks and limited film are indicators, Looks like a complete player.

Meanwhile, what is with the early commitments? I do not recall ND ever getting early commits anytime prior to about 2-3 years ago. Now it is becoming common. Assume these kids still take their visits for fun but still, this is very encouraging and kudos to the BK era

thoughts?

re the vids: the kid is fun to watch! enthusiastic out there, and he hasn't even started to fill out! a hunch, fans are gonna like this kid!

 

[coolirish9]

haven't seen film on this kid either but various people elsewhere are saying that he is explosive and really athletic could be a beast once he puts on weight. always nice to take a recruit from the state of Michigan that the bad guys in annie arbor wanted

 

[Bodizephax]

How about some analysis on this guy IIO?

If looks and limited film are indicators, Looks like a complete player.

Meanwhile, what is with the early commitments? I do not recall ND ever getting early commits anytime prior to about 2-3 years ago. Now it is becoming common. Assume these kids still take their visits for fun but still, this is very encouraging and kudos to the BK era

thoughts?

 

[IrishInOntario]

I like this commitment quite a bit. This is the perfect example of a kid that is just scratching the surface. He doesn't do anything correctly at this point (on film), yet is highly productive. I've read that he's up over 200lbs now heading into his junior year and based on his frame and length, I expect him to add at least another 20-25lbs before he gets to Notre Dame. He'll be a likely redshirt candidate and that's perfect. I'm really excited about the collection of athletes that ND has been recruiting.

While I'm far from simply a "star chaser", 2018 is setting up to be a wonderful class for ND if they can win on the field in 2017 and carry this early momentum into next year...

ND currently has commitments from...

5 star QB: Phil Jurkovec (0.9894 composite ranking)
4 star DT: Jayson Ademilola (0.9219 composite ranking)
4 star RB: Markese Stepp (0.9191 composite ranking)
4 star DE: Justin Ademilola (0.9100 composite ranking)
4 star OLB: Ovie Oghoufo (0.9048 composite ranking)

ND is the perceived leader for (among others)...

4 star DT: PJ Mustipher (0.9769 composite ranking)
4 star WR: Jahan Dotson (0.9745 composite ranking)
4 star CB: Houston Griffith (0.9691 composite ranking)
4 star WR: Amon-Ra St. Brown (0.9518 composite ranking)
4 star LB: Matthew Bauer (0.9472 composite ranking)
4 star TE: Pat Freiermuth (0.9400 composite ranking)
4 star WR: Micah Jones (0.8910 composite ranking)

Those are some really quality recruits and we're seeing an overall major bump in ND's recruiting recently. I'm always one to look to the future and I'm particularly excited about a 4 year run of ND front 7 defensive recruiting that could look like this (only naming the top guys in each class, IMO).

4 star NG: Darnell Ewell (2017)
4 star NG: Elijah Taylor (2015)
4 star NG: PJ Mustipher (2018)

4 star DT: Jerry Tillery (2015)
3 star DT: Kurt Hinish (2017)
4 star DT: Jayson Ademilola (2018)

4 star SDE: Khalid Kareem (2016)
4 star SDE: Josh Paschal (2017)
4 star SDE: Malik Vann (2018)

4/5 star WDE: Daelin Hayes (2016)
4 star WDE: Julian Okwara (2016)
4 star WDE: Hunter Echols (2017)
4 star WDE: Justin Ademilola (2018)

4 star WILL: Te'Von Coney (2015)
4 star WILL: Josh Barajas (2015)
4 star WILL: Peter Werner (2017)
4 star WILL: Bo Bauer (2018)

4 star MIKE: Jonathan Jones (2016)
4 star MIKE: David Adams (2017)

4 star SAM: Asmar Bilal (2015)
3 star SAM: Jamir Jones (2016)
4 star SAM Ovie Oghoufo (2018)

Outside of needing to find another impact MIKE linebacker, that is a talented front 7 if ND can land some of the realistic 2018 targets. Of course transfers, injuries and unforeseen circumstances happen and that's where some of the guys I didn't list will have opportunities to step up and contribute, but ND is folks... Close to recruiting at a level that will put ND into pre-season playoff talk on an annual basis.

 

[Bodizephax]

I like this commitment quite a bit. This is the perfect example of a kid that is just scratching the surface. He doesn't do anything correctly at this point (on film), yet is highly productive. I've read that he's up over 200lbs now heading into his junior year and based on his frame and length, I expect him to add at least another 20-25lbs before he gets to Notre Dame. He'll be a likely redshirt candidate and that's perfect. I'm really excited about the collection of athletes that ND has been recruiting.

While I'm far from simply a "star chaser", 2018 is setting up to be a wonderful class for ND if they can win on the field in 2017 and carry this early momentum into next year...

ND currently has commitments from...

5 star QB: Phil Jurkovec (0.9894 composite ranking)
4 star DT: Jayson Ademilola (0.9219 composite ranking)
4 star RB: Markese Stepp (0.9191 composite ranking)
4 star DE: Justin Ademilola (0.9100 composite ranking)
4 star OLB: Ovie Oghoufo (0.9048 composite ranking)

ND is the perceived leader for (among others)...

4 star DT: PJ Mustipher (0.9769 composite ranking)
4 star WR: Jahan Dotson (0.9745 composite ranking)
4 star CB: Houston Griffith (0.9691 composite ranking)
4 star WR: Amon-Ra St. Brown (0.9518 composite ranking)
4 star LB: Matthew Bauer (0.9472 composite ranking)
4 star TE: Pat Freiermuth (0.9400 composite ranking)
4 star WR: Micah Jones (0.8910 composite ranking)

Those are some really quality recruits and we're seeing an overall major bump in ND's recruiting recently. I'm always one to look to the future and I'm particularly excited about a 4 year run of ND front 7 defensive recruiting that could look like this (only naming the top guys in each class, IMO).

4 star NG: Darnell Ewell (2017)
4 star NG: Elijah Taylor (2015)
4 star NG: PJ Mustipher (2018)

4 star DT: Jerry Tillery (2015)
3 star DT: Kurt Hinish (2017)
4 star DT: Jayson Ademilola (2018)

4 star SDE: Khalid Kareem (2016)
4 star SDE: Josh Paschal (2017)
4 star SDE: Malik Vann (2018)

4/5 star WDE: Daelin Hayes (2016)
4 star WDE: Julian Okwara (2016)
4 star WDE: Hunter Echols (2017)
4 star WDE: Justin Ademilola (2018)

4 star WILL: Te'Von Coney (2015)
4 star WILL: Josh Barajas (2015)
4 star WILL: Peter Werner (2017)
4 star WILL: Bo Bauer (2018)

4 star MIKE: Jonathan Jones (2016)
4 star MIKE: David Adams (2017)

4 star SAM: Asmar Bilal (2015)
3 star SAM: Jamir Jones (2016)
4 star SAM Ovie Oghoufo (2018)

Outside of needing to find another impact MIKE linebacker, that is a talented front 7 if ND can land some of the realistic 2018 targets. Of course transfers, injuries and unforeseen circumstances happen and that's where some of the guys I didn't list will have opportunities to step up and contribute, but ND is folks... Close to recruiting at a level that will put ND into pre-season playoff talk on an annual basis.

No offense but why is it that the next year is always setting up for a great class. Why can't it ever be the current year?

 

[Irish Grandeur]

No offense but why is it that the next year is always setting up for a great class. Why can't it ever be the current year?

Think about this year as 1988 when they felt it was a year off - ND shocked CFB and won it all. ND will win it all this year!

 

[D_Master]

ND is currently in the top 5 for its class. It will drop once the big boys start committing, but I dont think this years class isnt great as well. Just right now '18 is looking better. We likely will end in the top 10 or just outside of that. Thats really good.

And as far as an "impact" mike LB, I think we have a good chance of getting Jacob Phillips this year. He's anywhere from the 8th best ILB to 35th OLB. I'm not sure if we're recruiting him to play the mike, but thats probably our best shot at this point. He's deciding at the beginning of Oct. His composite rating is .8755 (borderline 3/4 star)

 

[perseverare]

I agree the class will probably be 11-15 in the end. But a class's real evaluation should be based on how well it fills the biggest needs. For ND that is the D front 7. So any judgement realy ought take that into account more so than the final ranking.

 

[coolirish9]

jahan Dotson is the guy that I want the most from your list of 2018 kids Ontario because the kid is a great pass catcher with speed to burn. Dotson could the next will fuller for our irish and everybody wants him. getting 5 star QB Jurkovec really opened his eyes to our irish this summer and his interest in the irish became really high

 

[Bodizephax]

Think about this year as 1988 when they felt it was a year off - ND shocked CFB and won it all. ND will win it all this year!

Can I get on the bus? I believe !! It is going to happen !

 

[IrishInOntario]

No offense but why is it that the next year is always setting up for a great class. Why can't it ever be the current year?

Like every year, this could be "the year"... If that's going to be the case, however, ND coaches have to finish the class...

If they take 25, giving them 8 spots left, the following would solidify this class as a top 3 group, that would be universally credited in manor you hope it is...

1. DE Josh Kaindoh: Convince him that he'll never win anything (or even come close) at Maryland and more importantly, convince his dad to let him go to school out of state and away from home (like he does now in high school).

2. DE Josh Paschal: Convince him to turn his back on the ACC and SEC and head to South Bend where he'll pair up with Khalid Kareem to make a formidable SDE tandem for 3 years.

3. DE Hunter Echols: ND may lead now that he has decommitted from UCLA, but distance could still be a factor and I still wouldn't be shocked it he ended up in the Pac 12. That can['t happen for ND to have the class you're hoping for.

4. CB Thomas Graham: A taller Shaun Crawford who can play any of the 3 CB positions? Yes please. Recruit Adebo as a FS and tell Graham that you'll only take 2 CB's, if he's one of them. Most importantly, kill it with mom on his a official visit and get her blessing. Straight up Javon McKinley style. Out of state coincidences and firetrucks included.

5. CB Shaun Wade: How the hell are you going to flip him from Ohio State? That one is on Todd Lyght. First of all, you promise him first crack at Cole Luke's spot, from the second he walks onto campus. The rest will be about relationship building between he and Lyght and it would help a whole hell of a lot of BVG's defense has pulse this year and Luke balls out and becomes a top 50 pick, showing that Lyght can coach like he played.

6. Osiris St. Brown: He can't go to Stanford. Period. He has to end up with his brother in South Bend. The entire family is wayyyy too talented not to be Irish. Can't miss here.

7 & 8. Trey Smith, Foster Sarrell, Jedrick Wills: Land two of the three... It's that simple. Good luck though, because I can't see it happening. I'd kill to land one of the "big 3" at this point, but two of them would solidify this OL haul as the nation's best.

Land those guys and the class would have a composite score of 297.94. As a reference point, that would have put ND #2 last year, behind Alabama who finished with a score of 302.41 and narrowly ahead of Florida State who finished with a composite score of 295.44.

It's crazy to think "that" is what it takes to be right there in the conversation.

 

[Bodizephax]

Like every year, this could be "the year"... If that's going to be the case, however, ND coaches have to finish the class...

If they take 25, giving them 8 spots left, the following would solidify this class as a top 3 group, that would be universally credited in manor you hope it is...

1. DE Josh Kaindoh: Convince him that he'll never win anything (or even come close) at Maryland and more importantly, convince his dad to let him go to school out of state and away from home (like he does now in high school).

2. DE Josh Paschal: Convince him to turn his back on the ACC and SEC and head to South Bend where he'll pair up with Khalid Kareem to make a formidable SDE tandem for 3 years.

3. DE Hunter Echols: ND may lead now that he has decommitted from UCLA, but distance could still be a factor and I still wouldn't be shocked it he ended up in the Pac 12. That can['t happen for ND to have the class you're hoping for.

4. CB Thomas Graham: A taller Shaun Crawford who can play any of the 3 CB positions? Yes please. Recruit Adebo as a FS and tell Graham that you'll only take 2 CB's, if he's one of them. Most importantly, kill it with mom on his a official visit and get her blessing. Straight up Javon McKinley style. Out of state coincidences and firetrucks included.

5. CB Shaun Wade: How the hell are you going to flip him from Ohio State? That one is on Todd Lyght. First of all, you promise him first crack at Cole Luke's spot, from the second he walks onto campus. The rest will be about relationship building between he and Lyght and it would help a whole hell of a lot of BVG's defense has pulse this year and Luke balls out and becomes a top 50 pick, showing that Lyght can coach like he played.

6. Osiris St. Brown: He can't go to Stanford. Period. He has to end up with his brother in South Bend. The entire family is wayyyy too talented not to be Irish. Can't miss here.

7 & 8. Trey Smith, Foster Sarrell, Jedrick Wills: Land two of the three... It's that simple. Good luck though, because I can't see it happening. I'd kill to land one of the "big 3" at this point, but two of them would solidify this OL haul as the nation's best.

Land those guys and the class would have a composite score of 297.94. As a reference point, that would have put ND #2 last year, behind Alabama who finished with a score of 302.41 and narrowly ahead of Florida State who finished with a composite score of 295.44.

It's crazy to think "that" is what it takes to be right there in the conversation.

We are going to have a great season this year and we are going to get those players. The 2013 class was great because of the great season of 2012. ND needs to get to the playoffs and be very competitive if they falter (which isn't going to happen).

 

[Irish Grandeur]

Can I get on the bus? I believe !! It is going to happen !

You're already on the bus.

 

[perseverare]

Like every year, this could be "the year"... If that's going to be the case, however, ND coaches have to finish the class...

If they take 25, giving them 8 spots left, the following would solidify this class as a top 3 group, that would be universally credited in manor you hope it is...

1. DE Josh Kaindoh: Convince him that he'll never win anything (or even come close) at Maryland and more importantly, convince his dad to let him go to school out of state and away from home (like he does now in high school).

2. DE Josh Paschal: Convince him to turn his back on the ACC and SEC and head to South Bend where he'll pair up with Khalid Kareem to make a formidable SDE tandem for 3 years.

3. DE Hunter Echols: ND may lead now that he has decommitted from UCLA, but distance could still be a factor and I still wouldn't be shocked it he ended up in the Pac 12. That can['t happen for ND to have the class you're hoping for.

4. CB Thomas Graham: A taller Shaun Crawford who can play any of the 3 CB positions? Yes please. Recruit Adebo as a FS and tell Graham that you'll only take 2 CB's, if he's one of them. Most importantly, kill it with mom on his a official visit and get her blessing. Straight up Javon McKinley style. Out of state coincidences and firetrucks included.

5. CB Shaun Wade: How the hell are you going to flip him from Ohio State? That one is on Todd Lyght. First of all, you promise him first crack at Cole Luke's spot, from the second he walks onto campus. The rest will be about relationship building between he and Lyght and it would help a whole hell of a lot of BVG's defense has pulse this year and Luke balls out and becomes a top 50 pick, showing that Lyght can coach like he played.

6. Osiris St. Brown: He can't go to Stanford. Period. He has to end up with his brother in South Bend. The entire family is wayyyy too talented not to be Irish. Can't miss here.

7 & 8. Trey Smith, Foster Sarrell, Jedrick Wills: Land two of the three... It's that simple. Good luck though, because I can't see it happening. I'd kill to land one of the "big 3" at this point, but two of them would solidify this OL haul as the nation's best.

Land those guys and the class would have a composite score of 297.94. As a reference point, that would have put ND #2 last year, behind Alabama who finished with a score of 302.41 and narrowly ahead of Florida State who finished with a composite score of 295.44.

It's crazy to think "that" is what it takes to be right there in the conversation.

you left out Black; who is thought by TOS posters to be a 'silent'.

I can never understand ND and Bama after the same recruit who puts them in his final group. The only thing I can think of is a conflict of values. Wills is spoken of as a ND kind of guy; yet he is seriously considering the total opposite spectrum as his choice. Don't get it!