Official Bring Fleck to ND Thread

[NotreDame du Lac]

posted in another thread, but thought this was well overdue as an official thread. The best available coach who'd actually and realistically take the job is Fleck.

To overtake UM and OSU as the premier team in the Midwest Notre Dame needs to gamble a bit. Right now, Fleck is that gamble. He'd take the job without an extended contract and he'd bring a lot of positive attention to a lackluster program with his speeches, enthusiasm, and personality traits. BK is a good coach, but he's burned out. Fleck is motivated as hell.

Give Fleck a shot!

 

[NDSMC78]

Fleck is not ready for ND.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/coaching/alltime_coach_year_by_year.php?coachid=7245

 

[perseverare]

it really won't matter, the next 6-10 years are down the crapper! recruiting has gotten that bad.

getting 1 more for OleTex and ND35 looks like an impossibilty now! I'd like to sat I did not see this coming, but I did. And was reminded by dags, of that prediction of early BK.

 

[jpstax]

Fleck is not ready for ND.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/coaching/alltime_coach_year_by_year.php?coachid=7245

Rubish! Ara's earlier record at NW wasn't any better than Fleck's at WM. I say role the dice and give PJ a 3 year contract. However, if BK gets let go, Jack Swarbrick would first have to be replaced. And, with all that's going on with the program, I'm not sure Fr. Jenkins wants to deal with the thought of a regime change right now.

 

[TXNDFan88]

it really won't matter, the next 6-10 years are down the crapper! recruiting has gotten that bad.

28K posts and this might be my favorite!

 

[mbd11]

I don't think he's ready yet either. Also, he has some personal baggage that might not fit well at ND. Apparently he cheated on his first wife (mother of his children) with the wife of a booster up at WMU. There was apparently quite a scandal, and some kind of lawsuit involving message board posters of all people.

 

[pikehead]

I don't think he's ready yet either. Also, he has some personal baggage that might not fit well at ND. Apparently he cheated on his first wife (mother of his children) with the wife of a booster up at WMU. There was apparently quite a scandal, and some kind of lawsuit involving message board posters of all people.

Everyone cool down....Kelly is the coach now and for next 5 years,

 

[NDSMC78]

Rubish! Ara's earlier record at NW wasn't any better than Fleck's at WM. I say role the dice and give PJ a 3 year contract. However, if BK gets let go, Jack Swarbrick would first have to be replaced. And, with all that's going on with the program, I'm not sure Fr. Jenkins wants to deal with the thought of a regime change right now.

Parseghian had 13 years of HC experience before he arrived at ND. Of those, eight years were in the Big 10. Fleck has 4 years at a MAC school.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/coaching/alltime_coach_year_by_year.php?coachid=1823

 

[perseverare]

it really won't matter, the next 6-10 years are down the crapper! recruiting has gotten that bad.

28K posts and this might be my favorite!

keep trying you will get one! oh, that's right you only post about posters.

 

[jpstax]

Parseghian had 13 years of HC experience before he arrived at ND. Of those, eight years were in the Big 10. Fleck has 4 years at a MAC school.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/coaching/alltime_coach_year_by_year.php?coachid=1823

I was only referring to Ara's record at NW, his last coaching stop before ND, which I thought was more relevant than his earlier coaching career. Also, I wouldn't dismiss his 4 years at a MAC school. I think it's all relative.

 

[jpstax]

I don't think he's ready yet either. Also, he has some personal baggage that might not fit well at ND. Apparently he cheated on his first wife (mother of his children) with the wife of a booster up at WMU. There was apparently quite a scandal, and some kind of lawsuit involving message board posters of all people.

"Let he who is without sin, let him cast the first stone." How do you know Fleck isn't a changed man by now?

 

[NDSMC78]

I was only referring to Ara's record at NW, his last coaching stop before ND, which I thought was more relevant than his earlier coaching career. Also, I wouldn't dismiss his 4 years at a MAC school. I think it's all relative.

I think it's far more important that Parseghian had many more years of experience and that he coached in a major conference. When he came to ND, Parseghian had three times as many years of HC experience than Fleck does now. I think that matters a lot.

 

[ivan brunetti]

The only coach close to Ara out there is Herman, and he seems to be headed to Texas (or LSU or Oregon). Maybe next year there will be another hot new name. Every head coaching hire is a gamble. There are no sure things.

 

[big al 70]

The only coach close to Ara out there is Herman, and he seems to be headed to Texas (or LSU or Oregon). Maybe next year there will be another hot new name. Every head coaching hire is a gamble. There are no sure things.

Saban might get tired at Bama after all of these championships. Saban as a Catholic just might be interested.

 

[Classic Irish]

Saban might get tired at Bama after all of these championships. Saban as a Catholic just might be interested.

Saban will never coach at ND.

 

[beachcardinal]

posted in another thread, but thought this was well overdue as an official thread. The best available coach who'd actually and realistically take the job is Fleck.

To overtake UM and OSU as the premier team in the Midwest Notre Dame needs to gamble a bit. Right now, Fleck is that gamble. He'd take the job without an extended contract and he'd bring a lot of positive attention to a lackluster program with his speeches, enthusiasm, and personality traits. BK is a good coach, but he's burned out. Fleck is motivated as hell.

Give Fleck a shot!

He seems like Kelly 2.0. Big success in minor program, would be hired after one break through year. What am I missing?

 

[end_23]

I don't think he's ready yet either. Also, he has some personal baggage that might not fit well at ND. Apparently he cheated on his first wife (mother of his children) with the wife of a booster up at WMU. There was apparently quite a scandal, and some kind of lawsuit involving message board posters of all people.

No one can coach at ND except for Kelly! Holier than thou again. Kelly doesn't have any scandal around himself??????

 

[Nocalirish]

Fleck=Faust
Schiano is the choice but first fire Kelly.

 

[deadirishpoet]

posted in another thread, but thought this was well overdue as an official thread. The best available coach who'd actually and realistically take the job is Fleck.

To overtake UM and OSU as the premier team in the Midwest Notre Dame needs to gamble a bit. Right now, Fleck is that gamble. He'd take the job without an extended contract and he'd bring a lot of positive attention to a lackluster program with his speeches, enthusiasm, and personality traits. BK is a good coach, but he's burned out. Fleck is motivated as hell.

Give Fleck a shot!

The sample size is too Small

 

[perseverare]

safest route is Sanford: get Chas Strong as DC at huge $ and the recruiting will actually improve with elite athletes.
Both Sanford and Strong are well respected by recruits/parents and would be a real recruiting force!

And it tells the recruits that 'meh' and 'get used to it' are no longer the ND way.

Has to be decided by Tuesday at latest; otherwise the decommits will commence. Recruits are prospecting.

 

[wicker]

Are there any alums coaching? Irrespective of Weis, this seems the time to find a Notre Dame man. But my preference remains Pete Carroll, though unavailable until late January

 

[hvillebill]

safest route is Sanford: get Chas Strong as DC at huge $ and the recruiting will actually improve with elite athletes.
Both Sanford and Strong are well respected by recruits/parents and would be a real recruiting force!

And it tells the recruits that 'meh' and 'get used to it' are no longer the ND way.

Has to be decided by Tuesday at latest; otherwise the decommits will commence. Recruits are prospecting.

Again, you're speculating. There are no facts to support that statement.

 

[ND4Real]

This ain't Urban from bowling green. Who was the last successful coach from the mac able to turn it around? I mean win a title. Bk took a team to the title. We need someone else. Herman , schiano, Urban heck I'd take stoops .

 

[Zorich 88]

This ain't Urban from bowling green. Who was the last successful coach from the mac able to turn it around? I mean win a title. Bk took a team to the title. We need someone else. Herman , schiano, Urban heck I'd take stoops .

Herman (who I like) has not won a title of any kind. Schiano won what while at Rutgers? Fleck or Herman are my top choices.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

Are there any alums coaching? Irrespective of Weis, this seems the time to find a Notre Dame man. But my preference remains Pete Carroll, though unavailable until late January

There's always Tom Clements, whose name comes up everytime there's a vacancy.

 

[bizzybecknd]

If I'm JS, I look at 2-3 folks: Petersen, Meyer and Wittingham. The first two I'll take, Wittingham needs a good OC. All the other talk is nonsense.

 

[ivan brunetti]

Bob Diaco might be looking for a job.

 

[Domer7]

posted in another thread, but thought this was well overdue as an official thread. The best available coach who'd actually and realistically take the job is Fleck.

To overtake UM and OSU as the premier team in the Midwest Notre Dame needs to gamble a bit. Right now, Fleck is that gamble. He'd take the job without an extended contract and he'd bring a lot of positive attention to a lackluster program with his speeches, enthusiasm, and personality traits. BK is a good coach, but he's burned out. Fleck is motivated as hell.

Give Fleck a shot!

As noted elsewhere, we need someone who has done it it in the big leagues. Kelly pretty much came from where Fleck is now and became the embodiment of the Peter Principle. There are enough of current DI successful and relatively young head coaches out there to bring in.

 

[perseverare]

Again, you're speculating. There are no facts to support that statement.

hvillebill

of course I am speculating; but I read the reports on recruiting and comments by the prospects and parents.

If reports are true that Kelly is returning direct to SB after the game rather that remain in Ca. to recruit as orig planned then that is very interesting.

And, JMO, if nothing comes down by Tues, then Jack indeed will do nothing because it will simply be too late for ND to act on a desired target if one was even targeted.
Those who hesitate, well they bring their coach back in '17!

 

[wicker]

watching Fleck tonight. With his schtick, he'd hafta approach Leahy's records to be bearable

 

[shooter1977]

We can do it now, or pine for him 3-4 seasons from now. Watching his downhill running game and how hard Western Michigan was playing reminds me of Harbaugh's Stanford teams.

 

[Nocalirish]

We can do it now, or pine for him 3-4 seasons from now. Watching his downhill running game and how hard Western Michigan was playing reminds me of Harbaugh's Stanford teams.

And what exactly are Faust er Fleck's marquee wins? National championships? Major bowl wins? Ties to the NFL?

 

[Extirpate 6951]

And what exactly are Faust er Fleck's marquee wins? National championships? Major bowl wins? Ties to the NFL?

About the same as Kelly's!

 

[Nocalirish]

About the same as Kelly's!

Kelly should be fired today and Schiano hired.

 

[KnightDiver21]

Just throwing it out there, but have you guys ever considered that maybe it's you not the coaches? How many more successful coaches have to come to ND and have their careers ruined before that becomes part of the convo or has it already?
You play a tough national schedule every year but yet have very high admissions standards.
You want to win but set the bar so damn high that it's a natty or bust every year without a division or conference title to play for. Those are things that motivate kids through a long season.
The 1960's are over and not coming back. You want to be a football factory and win big then you know what you have to do to. You want to be an elite academic institution? Great, but winning like bama isn't going to happen under the current system.

Just a rant and my .02

 

[Nocalirish]

ND would be happy to just be Stanford.

 

[NotreDame du Lac]

Bring Fleck to ND!!

 

[Nocalirish]

Bring defense to ND hire Schiano.

 

[nemeth#5]

Kelly should be fired today and Schiano hired.

You should be an AD somewhere!

 

[88ND]

I'm not sure why this thread was brought back from the dead???