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Notre Dame ranges from a 2.5 point underdog to a 4.5 favorite against Texas A&M.

Indicative of a very close game.

With daytime temperatures above 100 a 7:30pm kickoff should bring cooler temperatures which should help ND.

Sunset is 7:49pm

Will 58 players be adequate if temperatures hover in the high 80s, low 90s ?

Will depth be the deciding factor ?
 
Depth maybe but conditioning yes. Need to prepare not for those killer heat.
 
Notre Dame ranges from a 2.5 point underdog to a 4.5 favorite against Texas A&M.

Indicative of a very close game.

With daytime temperatures above 100 a 7:30pm kickoff should bring cooler temperatures which should help ND.

Sunset is 7:49pm

Will 58 players be adequate if temperatures hover in the high 80s, low 90s ?

Will depth be the deciding factor ?
Yes 58 is more than adequate

No, depth won't be the deciding factor
 
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Notre Dame ranges from a 2.5 point underdog to a 4.5 favorite against Texas A&M.

Indicative of a very close game.

With daytime temperatures above 100 a 7:30pm kickoff should bring cooler temperatures which should help ND.

Sunset is 7:49pm

Will 58 players be adequate if temperatures hover in the high 80s, low 90s ?

Will depth be the deciding factor ?
Non issue.
 
Is it a logical premise that players used to practicing in hundred degree heat would be better prepared for a game played in low 100, high 90 degree heat than players used to practicing in high 70 low 80° heat ?
 
Depth maybe but conditioning yes. Need to prepare not for those killer heat.
With a game starting when the sun is still up and daytime temperatures at 100°, Conditioning and depth are inter related and critical

Anyone who says that playing in 90 to 100° temperatures isn’t an issue in a football game is beyond clueless.

One redeeming benefit is that it’s a grass field.

Depth will be a deciding factor if the temperature is in the 90s
 
Is it a logical premise that players used to practicing in hundred degree heat would be better prepared for a game played in low 100, high 90 degree heat than players used to practicing in high 70 low 80° heat ?
TAMU's football team largely practices in an indoor, air-conditioned facility, much like the Loftus Sports Center. So your premise, while perhaps logical, isn't factual. It will be as hot for them as it is for ND. It is true, however, that many of TAMU's players grew up in the south, and they may be more accustomed to the hot Texas summers. If ND's trainers and coaches are on top of it, the heat shouldn't be any more of a problem for us than it will be for TAMU. Hydration is the key. Once you feel thirsty, you are probably dehydrated already.
 
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Notre Dame ranges from a 2.5 point underdog to a 4.5 favorite against Texas A&M.

Indicative of a very close game.

With daytime temperatures above 100 a 7:30pm kickoff should bring cooler temperatures which should help ND.

Sunset is 7:49pm

Will 58 players be adequate if temperatures hover in the high 80s, low 90s ?

Will depth be the deciding factor ?
Uhmmmm which books. Hard to believe books would be a touchdown apart. Doesn’t seem right
 
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It isn’t right.

Notre Dame is a 2.5 point underdog on Fanduel. A one point underdog on Bovada.

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TAMU's football team largely practices in an indoor, air-conditioned facility, much like the Loftus Sports Center. So your premise, while perhaps logical, isn't factual. It will be as hot for them as it is for ND. It is true, however, that many of TAMU's players grew up in the south, and they may be more accustomed to the hot Texas summers. If ND's trainers and coaches are on top of it, the heat shouldn't be any more of a problem for us than it will be for TAMU. Hydration is the key. Once you feel thirsty, you are probably dehydrated already.
If you’re a semi-intelligent coach, you prepare your team for game conditions, ergo, you practice outdoors
 
TAMU's football team largely practices in an indoor, air-conditioned facility, much like the Loftus Sports Center. So your premise, while perhaps logical, isn't factual. It will be as hot for them as it is for ND. It is true, however, that many of TAMU's players grew up in the south, and they may be more accustomed to the hot Texas summers. If ND's trainers and coaches are on top of it, the heat shouldn't be any more of a problem for us than it will be for TAMU. Hydration is the key. Once you feel thirsty, you are probably dehydrated already.
Young men in peak physical condition will handle the conditions whatever they may be just fine. No one is going both ways and with the exception of QB and O line few players see every snap. Lots of rotating across the board.
 
I do think temperatures/conditions play a role in football games. Conditioning is critically important, but hard to gauge how each player handles a new experience. That’s why we all salivate over the thought of an SEC team playing us at ND in December. I think the fact the field is grass is a huge plus, and the fact it’s a night game is huge as well. We have excellent depth everywhere excepts on the OL, and I think we’ll see a lot of substitutions to keep guys fresh and hydrated. OL almost never rotate, so they’ll be the ones battling the heat all night long.
 
Young men in peak physical condition will handle the conditions whatever they may be just fine. No one is going both ways and with the exception of QB and O line few players see every snap. Lots of rotating across the board.
I guess you are totally unaware that the Viking’s Pro Bowl Offensive lineman Korey Stringer died of heat stroke when temperatures were in the 90s

Do you ever stop and think before you post ?
Evidently not !
 
I checked 6 books in the state of Michigan and they all have ND between +1 to +2.5. If anyone knows of a bettable +4.5 line let me know! 😂
Notre Dame is a one point underdog on Draftkings, a one point underdog on Bovada, a 2.5 point underdog on Fanduel.

There is nothing showing Notre Dame as a 4.5 point favorite.
 
Young men in peak physical condition will handle the conditions whatever they may be just fine. No one is going both ways and with the exception of QB and O line few players see every snap. Lots of rotating across the board.
Weather will play zero role in the Notre Dame-TAM game.

Like you said, no one plays offense and defense, the players sit for half the game.
 
If you’re a semi-intelligent coach, you prepare your team for game conditions, ergo, you practice outdoors

I guess Coach Elko didn't get the memo, because they are practicing indoors. As gameday gets closer they might do a walk through or two outdoors, but that is about it.

Barring high winds or heavy rain, I expect crowd noise wiil possibly be more of an environmental factor than heat and humidity. Kyle Field can be a VERY loud stadium, and I expect Aggies fans will be rocking when we play the game. I expect Freeman, Denbrock and Golden are preparing the team for that, but communications between players may be a challenge. You try to score early and often and take the crowd out of the game, but that will be tough.
 
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I guess Coach Elko didn't get the memo, because they are practicing indoors. As gameday gets closer they might do a walk through or two outdoors, but that is about it.

Barring high winds or heavy rain, I expect crowd noise wiil possibly be more of an environmental factor than heat and humidity. Kyle Field can be a VERY loud stadium, and I expect Aggies fans will be rocking when we play the game. I expect Freeman, Denbrock and Golden are preparing the team for that, but communications between players may be a challenge. You try to score early and often and take the crowd out of the game, but that will be tough.
Has Coach Elko contacted you and provided the practice schedule ?

With those conditions, there’s a balance that should be struck in terms of preparing the players for the heat and protecting the players from the heat

No doubt that it will be a loud and hostile environment and we can only hope that the coaches preparing the players for that environment
 
Weather will play zero role in the Notre Dame-TAM game.

Like you said, no one plays offense and defense, the players sit for half the game.
Where is Jimmy Connors when you need him?
 
Notre Dame is a one point underdog on Draftkings, a one point underdog on Bovada, a 2.5 point underdog on Fanduel.

There is nothing showing Notre Dame as a 4.5 point favorite.
Would you like to bet on that?
 
Some analysts are indicating that the performance of Notre Dame‘s inexperienced offensive line will be the key to the game.

Let’s keep our fingers crossed
 
I guess Coach Elko didn't get the memo, because they are practicing indoors. As gameday gets closer they might do a walk through or two outdoors, but that is about it.

Barring high winds or heavy rain, I expect crowd noise wiil possibly be more of an environmental factor than heat and humidity. Kyle Field can be a VERY loud stadium, and I expect Aggies fans will be rocking when we play the game. I expect Freeman, Denbrock and Golden are preparing the team for that, but communications between players may be a challenge. You try to score early and often and take the crowd out of the game, but that will be tough.
Yes, TAM exclusively practices indoors.
 
It should be very hot but A&M players will be playing in the same conditions. I’d think going from hot/warm to really cold is a bigger issue than going from warm/hot to super hot.
 
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Notre Dame ranges from a 2.5 point underdog to a 4.5 favorite against Texas A&M.

Indicative of a very close game.

With daytime temperatures above 100 a 7:30pm kickoff should bring cooler temperatures which should help ND.

Sunset is 7:49pm

Will 58 players be adequate if temperatures hover in the high 80s, low 90s ?

Will depth be the deciding factor ?

Uhmmmm which books. Hard to believe books would be a touchdown apart. Doesn’t seem right

I checked 6 books in the state of Michigan and they all have ND between +1 to +2.5. If anyone knows of a bettable +4.5 line let me know! 😂
I was thinking, I do not bet on sports but that sounds like an attractive middle.
 
Has Coach Elko contacted you and provided the practice schedule ?

With those conditions, there’s a balance that should be struck in terms of preparing the players for the heat and protecting the players from the heat

No doubt that it will be a loud and hostile environment and we can only hope that the coaches preparing the players for that environment
You assumed TAMU would be practicing outdoors in the heat in order to prepare for the game. Your assumption is wrong. If you think Elko doesn't know what he is doing, I am sure he would love hearing from you.
 
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You assumed TAMU would be practicing outdoors in the heat in order to prepare for the game. Your assumption is wrong. If you think Elko doesn't know what he is doing, I am sure he would love hearing from you.
And your assumption is that they’re not practicing outdoors, which would be failing to prepare them for game conditions when they play Notre Dame.

It would seem more prudent to hold practice outdoors, starting at 7:30pm
 
And your assumption is that they’re not practicing outdoors, which would be failing to prepare them for game conditions when they play Notre Dame.

It would seem more prudent to hold practice outdoors, starting at 7:30pm
TAM practices exclusively indoors. You would as well if you lived in Texas in August, assuming you have common sense.
 
TAM practices exclusively indoors. You would as well if you lived in Texas in August, assuming you have common sense.
I dont know if they do or not. But if they aren't practicing outside a decent amount, thar would be a mistake
 
And your assumption is that they’re not practicing outdoors, which would be failing to prepare them for game conditions when they play Notre Dame.

It would seem more prudent to hold practice outdoors, starting at 7:30pm
I didn't assume anything. I have a friend who played on the golf team at TAMU, and he still has connections with people in the athletic department. He and I have been talking about the ND/TAMU game for the better part of the last year. A couple of months ago, long before you started this thread, I asked him whether the football team practices outdoors during the summer. He laughed and said that doesn't happen anymore, at least not when temperatures are in the 90s/100s. They may hold walk throughs outdoors, or even practice outdoors if the temps fall into the 80s (rare in the Texas summers), but they simply don't hold vigorous practices anymore outside in the heat. They have a state-of-the-art indoor practice facility they opened a few years back, and that is where they practice when temps are in the high 90s/low 100s.

He could be BSing me, but I don't think so. He's a straight shooter. Or he could be misinformed, but I don't think so. He once told me he has a few good friends who played on the football team, so I believe what he told me is accurate.

And that makes perfect sense, though you apparently think otherwise.

I think you once said you played competitive golf. So have I. When you were preparing for a tournament where rain was forecast, did you go out and practice in the rain? Of course not. You got your practice in while the weather was good, and but then you made sure you were prepared for rainy weather: rain jacket and pants, hats, extra gloves, lots of towels, and an umbrella.

As for starting practice at 7:30 p.m., I guess you haven't been to Texas in the summer. It can be in the mid-90s even at 7:30.

Aside from that, it wouldn't surprise me if the NCAA has rules on how late practices can go, but I am not an expert on the rules. I do recall that the NCAA banned two-a-day practices a few years ago, so maybe they have limits on how late practices can be held.
 
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I didn't assume anything. I have a friend who played on the golf team at TAMU, and he still has connections with people in the athletic department. He and I have been talking about the ND/TAMU game for the better part of the last year. A couple of months ago, long before you started this thread, I asked him whether the football team practices outdoors during the summer. He laughed and said that doesn't happen anymore, at least not when temperatures are in the 90s/100s. They may hold walk throughs outdoors, or even practice outdoors if the temps fall into the 80s (rare in the Texas summers), but they simply don't hold vigorous practices anymore outside in the heat. They have a state-of-the-art indoor practice facility they opened a few years back, and that is where they practice when temps are in the high 90s/low 100s.

He could be BSing me, but I don't think so. He's a straight shooter. Or he could be misinformed, but I don't think so. He once told me he has a few good friends who played on the football team, so I believe what he told me is accurate.

And that makes perfect sense, though you apparently think otherwise.

I think you once said you played competitive golf. So have I. When you were preparing for a tournament where rain was forecast, did you go out and practice in the rain? Of course not. You got your practice in while the weather was good, and but then you made sure you were prepared for rainy weather: rain jacket and pants, hats, extra gloves, lots of towels, and an umbrella.

As for starting practice at 7:30 p.m., I guess you haven't been to Texas in the summer. It can be in the mid-90s even at 7:30.

Aside from that, it wouldn't surprise me if the NCAA has rules on how late practices can go, but I am not an expert on the rules. I do recall that the NCAA banned two-a-day practices a few years ago, so maybe they have limits on how late practices can be held.
Thank You for that.
 
I didn't assume anything. I have a friend who played on the golf team at TAMU, and he still has connections with people in the athletic department. He and I have been talking about the ND/TAMU game for the better part of the last year. A couple of months ago, long before you started this thread, I asked him whether the football team practices outdoors during the summer. He laughed and said that doesn't happen anymore, at least not when temperatures are in the 90s/100s. They may hold walk throughs outdoors, or even practice outdoors if the temps fall into the 80s (rare in the Texas summers), but they simply don't hold vigorous practices anymore outside in the heat. They have a state-of-the-art indoor practice facility they opened a few years back, and that is where they practice when temps are in the high 90s/low 100s.

He could be BSing me, but I don't think so. He's a straight shooter. Or he could be misinformed, but I don't think so. He once told me he has a few good friends who played on the football team, so I believe what he told me is accurate.

And that makes perfect sense, though you apparently think otherwise.

I think you once said you played competitive golf. So have I. When you were preparing for a tournament where rain was forecast, did you go out and practice in the rain? Of course not. You got your practice in while the weather was good, and but then you made sure you were prepared for rainy weather: rain jacket and pants, hats, extra gloves, lots of towels, and an umbrella.

As for starting practice at 7:30 p.m., I guess you haven't been to Texas in the summer. It can be in the mid-90s even at 7:30.

Aside from that, it wouldn't surprise me if the NCAA has rules on how late practices can go, but I am not an expert on the rules. I do recall that the NCAA banned two-a-day practices a few years ago, so maybe they have limits on how late practices can be held.


I think your friend is being honest with you and I would agree that they probably don’t practice in the summer, but I think they’ll be practicing outside in preparation for the Notre Dame game.
To what extent I don’t know, but that would be the prudent thing to do in order to prepare for game conditions.

Actually, I did practice in the rain,
I had a counterintuitive philosophy,
While everyone was complaining about the rain, I embraced it.
My philosophy was reinforced at the North-South amateur when I saw Lanny Watkins practicing in the rain. I didn’t like practicing in the rain, especially if it was a little cool out.

What really helped me play in the rain was when I was in Scotland and they had these special rain gloves, I think Wilson made them, they were spectacular, the wetter they got, the better they got. I think I bought a dozen gloves to take back to the states with me. I gave some to friends of mine.

It’s funny that people who don’t play competitive golf don’t understand Bobby Jones‘s comment, that there’s golf and then there’s tournament golf.
There’s something really great about tournament golf, I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did.
 
Current odds are showing ND as a favorite by 3.0 to 4.5 points
 
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