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"Notre Dame's Zaire frustrated by quarterback competition"

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SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) -- Notre Dame quarterback Malik Zaire doesn't try to hide his frustration to be competing for the starter's job for a third straight spring after a broken right ankle cut his season short last fall.


''You just really wonder what it's going to take to finally convince people enough that I'm able to do the job,'' Zaire said. ''I don't make the decision. I'm going to keep balling and do what I need to do.''

Zaire became the starter after Everett Golson transferred to Florida State and he impressed immediately by completing 19 of 22 passes for 313 yards and three touchdowns in a season-opening 38-3 win over Texas. When Zaire broke his ankle a week later even coach Brian Kelly had doubts whether DeShone Kizer was ready.

Kizer showed he was, though, leading the Irish to 10 victories, including a come-from-behind win against Virginia in replacing Zaire.

So Zaire finds himself in a competition with Kizer and Brandon Wimbush, who got into two games as a freshman last season. Kelly said he doesn't adhere to the theory that a starter shouldn't lose his position because of injury, saying of Zaire: ''He really didn't have a body of work, where we could say, 'Well, he won the starting job.' ... I think what it's allowed him to do is that DeShone Kizer had a very good body of work, and we're opening up the competition.''

Zaire said in his mind the only person he's competing with is himself.

''I don't compete with people. I compete with myself to get better, so I'm looking to be the best that I can be all the time and looking to be the best quarterback in the country,'' he said. ''So I don't know what competition they feel was out there.''

Zaire said his ankle isn't quite 100 percent healthy, but it's getting close and he is working on it. He said the more he practices, the better he feels. He also has no doubt he'll be back stronger than ever.

''I know there are things I need to work on and still things that needed to get done because I'm trying to be the best in the country. I know I can be the best in the country,'' he said.

The only left-handed quarterback to ever start for the Irish, Zaire also believes he's a smarter quarterback than before he was injured because of the work he's done. He talked to a lot of people during the off-season, including ''the greatest lefty quarterback'' Steve Young.

''Being able to see from his perspective and read a lot about him and get a chance to have a better relationship with him has inspired me to take that next step and do things being the next-step guy,'' he said.

Kelly expects the competition to be close. So close, in fact, that he's not sure he will settle on a starter even next fall, indicating it could change game to game and that he's even open to be using more than one quarterback in a game.

Zaire said that is out of his control.

''I'm just going to continue to do what I need to do to help the team the best that I can do and things will come together as they should,'' he said. ''So I'm not too worried about it. I know at some point whenever they give me my chance, I'm always going to take advantage of it.''
 
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"In between short bursts of political correctness, Malik Zaire made it clear that not only does he believe Notre Dame’s three-man, open quarterback competition this spring is unnecessary, but that he’ll play along until it’s just as obvious to everyone else.

“You just really wonder what it’s going to take to finally convince people enough that I’m able to do the job,” the senior-to-be said Friday in his first public comments since a fractured right ankle six months-and-some-change ago eventually led to the unpalatable déjà vu of depth-chart ambiguity.

“But I don’t make decisions, so I’ve just got to keep ballin’ and do what I’ve got to do.”"

"He’s had to deal with having three different quarterback coaches and three different offensive coordinators in three years before finally getting some continuity from Mike Sanford this offseason."
 
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I think we all saw this coming months ago. We have one QB that is proven, DK. We have another QB who has somewhat proven himself, MZ. And we have a third QB, who is unproven, but supposedly has tons of potential, BW.
I like the open competition because it should bring out the best in everybody. I would like to see all 3 stay but in this day and age that is not likely.
I am just glad I don't have to make the decision.
 
Things competitors say for 1000 Alex. Glad he is hungry. Competition is good for our team. Thanks for posting I like it.
 
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Tarean Folston probably feels the same way. He was the starter last year. It is called competition.
 
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I think we all saw this coming months ago. We have one QB that is proven, DK. We have another QB who has somewhat proven himself, MZ. And we have a third QB, who is unproven, but supposedly has tons of potential, BW.
I like the open competition because it should bring out the best in everybody. I would like to see all 3 stay but in this day and age that is not likely.
I am just glad I don't have to make the decision.
Kizer has proven he couldn't beat a big time team last year, turns the ball over way too much, and is slow. I'll take MZ.
 
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He said things last year that people thought were a little bit crazy and he ended up #1 on the depth chart. I love the competitive fire. I just hope the QB decision doesn't hurt team chemistry like OSU last year.
 
OU picked the wrong guy to start the season and stayed w/ him a game or two too long IMO. Hopefully ND picks the right guy to start the season
 
Kizer has proven he couldn't beat a big time team last year, turns the ball over way too much, and is slow. I'll take MZ.
the only thing you have proven is you don't know one single solitary thing about the game of football.
 
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Um... Is Malik serious? DK accounted for 31 TD's. He's a good 20 lbs heavier and several inches taller. Malik can't be serious!
 
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I wouldn't have expected any other line from Zaire. He pretty much said the same thing when he was battling Golson. I like it...dude has confidence. All of that being said.....Kelly is going about it perfectly....Giving Wimbush a chance to shine while pushing Zaire and Kizer to be better. Urban found a way to make it work but he was only dealing with two guys really. Not an easy situation but I like what I'm hearing so far.
 
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Kizer has proven he couldn't beat a big time team last year, turns the ball over way too much, and is slow. I'll take MZ.
i love zaire but please in your infinite wisdom tell us what big time team nd has beaten when he was solely at the helm ?
 
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I'll take MZ all day. I don't think people realize how good Kizer had it last year. The dude had all damn day to throw in the pocket and Fuller was the best deep threat in football last year. How many times in the best deep threat also on an elite running team? With a new batch of receivers this year, I want a better athlete at QB as well as someone who will make quicker decisions. Kizer did not make quick enough decisions. He played well last year, especially for a redshirt freshman, but I like what Malik can do much more.

Then again, Wimbush is physically the best quarterback ND has on its roster.
 
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The Irish played their best game against Texas with Malik being near perfect.

Theend23 may be on to something about Kizers turnovers. Hopefully he is wrong, as he is most of the time, and he can cut down this season..

My vote goes to Malik ! Malik will make Notre Dame GREAT again !
 
MZ had a real struggle against a very poor Virginia team - that certainly hasn't escaped Kelly's attention.
 
The Irish played their best game against Texas with Malik being near perfect.

Theend23 may be on to something about Kizers turnovers. Hopefully he is wrong, as he is most of the time, and he can cut down this season..

My vote goes to Malik ! Malik will make Notre Dame GREAT again !
Bidi
You lost me at the end_23 may be on to something.
 
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There was always going to be a wide open QB competition...............I tried to tell you guys that months ago

Zaire may well win the QB competition............. not because Kizer isn't very good or doesn't give us good chances to win lots of games.......but because Zaire is just that great and give us excellent chances to win every game we're in

This type of competition at every position (including QB) feeds the type of mentality a high level teams needs to have and will only make the team stronger

We're going to be excellent at the QB position in 2016
 
Zaire should be frustrated. He's the best Qb for our team. Time to give him the reigns. Kizer will be a great back up.
 
disagree. his sample size is way too small to make that assertion. let it play out.

Mainly agree with this

Zaire may be the best QB on the roster right now, he may not be
(I wouldn't be surprised at all if Wimbush is actually the most talented QB on the roster...but needs a little more seasoning to take on Ziare/Kizer at this point in their careers)

But what's most important is that we allow for a completely open and wholistic QB competition throughout all of Spring, Summer, and Fall camps (ideally ending prior to the season itself)

We need the competition to be totally fair and open to determine the best QB, so the whole team can see him win the job "fair and square" and get behind him

We also need the QB's and coaches to manage teh competition in such a way that it builds the team (like competition at other positions) and doesn't divide it.........that will be massively important
(that was the component that Ohio State was missing last year)
 
Mainly agree with this

Zaire may be the best QB on the roster right now, he may not be
(I wouldn't be surprised at all if Wimbush is actually the most talented QB on the roster...but needs a little more seasoning to take on Ziare/Kizer at this point in their careers)

But what's most important is that we allow for a completely open and wholistic QB competition throughout all of Spring, Summer, and Fall camps (ideally ending prior to the season itself)

We need the competition to be totally fair and open to determine the best QB, so the whole team can see him win the job "fair and square" and get behind him

We also need the QB's and coaches to manage teh competition in such a way that it builds the team (like competition at other positions) and doesn't divide it.........that will be massively important
(that was the component that Ohio State was missing last year)
as someone who's lived it its just not practical for the process to be 100% open and fair .the time restrictions don't permit it.. you have a depth chart and move forward. my guess is the first snaps with the 1's went to kizer as it should be. there are only so many reps to go around. i'm completely comfortable with whoever is under center against texas. time will tell. no one will get screwed over.
 
as someone who's lived it its just not practical for the process to be 100% open and fair .the time restrictions don't permit it.. you have a depth chart and move forward. my guess is the first snaps with the 1's went to kizer as it should be. there are only so many reps to go around. i'm completely comfortable with whoever is under center against texas. time will tell. no one will get screwed over.
Yeah Coach Kelly addressed this yesterday. Kizer and Zaire are getting equal reps and Wimbush getting some.
There just isn't enough reps/time.
 
as someone who's lived it its just not practical for the process to be 100% open and fair .the time restrictions don't permit it.. you have a depth chart and move forward. my guess is the first snaps with the 1's went to kizer as it should be. there are only so many reps to go around. i'm completely comfortable with whoever is under center against texas. time will tell. no one will get screwed over.

I just don't think that's the case at all

There are countless examples of 2 QBs coming into a completely fair and open QB competition between the 2 of them. Beyond 2 participants, you're correct (not enough reps to go around) but with a well organized practice, there are plenty of reps for a 2 QB competition...especially when both QBs have some game experience

And that's exactly what I expect is happening here
(and it's what has been stated by Kelly and reported independently from the practices)

For what it's worth, all practice reports so far have had Zaire getting 1st reps with the 1's so far, though Kizer has ultimately been getting an equal number of reps with the 1's
(which is actually how it should be)

Really the only thing I agree with you on is that we'll be good with whoever wins the starting QB job, come the Texas game
 
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One of the three will eventually leave. Kelly must know that.

That's not necessarily the case, at all
(at least where the 2016 season is concerned)

I'd say it's more likely that all 3 stay for the entire 2016 season, at this point, than any one of them transfers
 
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It's a competition every season in college. But at Notre Dame, if you lose your spot, you don't lose your scholarship. You won't get that in the SEC.
I like his bravado
 
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Um... Is Malik serious? DK accounted for 31 TD's. He's a good 20 lbs heavier and several inches taller. Malik can't be serious!
What are you talking about is the height but zaire release point is that of a player 6ft4 so that don't matter. also have you seen how big a strong zaire is at 227 kizer doesn't compare there at all. speed wise kizer doesn't win that. winbush is a little faster. Toughness zaire all over.
 
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I'll take MZ all day. I don't think people realize how good Kizer had it last year. The dude had all damn day to throw in the pocket and Fuller was the best deep threat in football last year. How many times in the best deep threat also on an elite running team? With a new batch of receivers this year, I want a better athlete at QB as well as someone who will make quicker decisions. Kizer did not make quick enough decisions. He played well last year, especially for a redshirt freshman, but I like what Malik can do much more.

Then again, Wimbush is physically the best quarterback ND has on its roster.
Agree on all points except winbush being the most gifted or physically gifted qb. no my friend zaire is check out his work out and workout ethics neither kiser or winny can do that.
 
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MZ had a real struggle against a very poor Virginia team - that certainly hasn't escaped Kelly's attention.
actually he really didn't have that bad of a game overall. Zaire actually was getting his mojo flowing in the third quarter with the bomb for a td to fuller. Also had big runs in that quarter as well he was getting ready to really lead the irish to a blowout win
and virgina was nervous about it because they only answer they had was a questionable tackle. Those kinds of tackles from behind are tought by certain defensive coaches to slow down or hurt players. This is something people don't want to deal with or talk about.
 
That's not necessarily the case, at all
(at least where the 2016 season is concerned)

I'd say it's more likely that all 3 stay for the entire 2016 season, at this point, than any one of them transfers

Yup. I don't know what alternative people would prefer to having three good QBs. Two good and one crap? One good, one okay and one crap? If you have three good guys, someone will at least consider switching schools. Happens at Alabama, at Ohio State and every other top program.
 
The very best thing that can happen to every great team is to have enough competition that each position has players who are second and third team who believe deep down that they should start. It stimulates great practice competition, high spirited practice sessions and places kids on notice that they are expectd to be at their best at all times. Many here seem to not understand that such competition is very good for building a great team and absent such parity people cannot usually reach excellence.

Notre Dame has three excellent QB candidates and Brian Kelly is a great coach. Let this all play out and the winner will be the team on Saturdays to come.
 
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