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Notre Dame vs. Ohio State, Score Predictions, Analysis, Opinions

kybuck, do you think bosa will try to line up against stanley ? i'll be curious.
Think he starts out against McGlinchey which could bode well for ND since he seemed healthy from his high ankle sprain against Stanford.
 
Think he starts out against McGlinchey which could bode well for ND since he seemed healthy from his high ankle sprain against Stanford.
They move him around mostly based on down, distance, formation, etc. OSU brings in extra DE in passing situations and moves Bosa inside.
 
I'm not familiar with your personnel, but tOSU moves Bosa all around: inside, outside, right, left. He'll probably be lined up over everyone except your center at some point in the game.
as an nd fan i hope he tries ronnie stanley. i doubt he does. makes no sense.
 
They move him around mostly based on down, distance, formation, etc. OSU brings in extra DE in passing situations and moves Bosa inside.
McGlinchey is a RT and would match up more in the run game, IMO. McGlinchey is a road grader and, when healthy, can dominate. So, look for that match up when ND is in running situations.
 
as an nd fan i hope he tries ronnie stanley. i doubt he does. makes no sense.
If Stanley can handle Bosa one-on-one, I'll be impressed. He draws a double-team most of the time. Guys that try to handle him one-on-one usually end up helping their QB up off the turf.
 
If Stanley can handle Bosa one-on-one, I'll be impressed. He draws a double-team most of the time. Guys that try to handle him one-on-one usually end up helping their QB up off the turf.
guaranteed bosa has not faced ANYONE this year with ronnie stanleys skill set. i've seen all ohio states games and bosa has been handled one on one on occasion and by lesser talents. i noticed he avoided conklin for much of the msu game.
 
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guaranteed bosa has not faced ANYONE this year with ronnie stanleys skill set. i've seen all ohio states games and bosa has been handled one on one on occasion and by lesser talents. i noticed he avoided conklin for much of the msu game.
I don't know why you seem to think that Bosa picks where he lines up or "avoids" anyone. The DL lines up per what is called from the sidelines, which is based on offensive formation, down and distance, etc. And, for that matter, how many DE's has Stanley faced this year with Bosa's skill set? If you say more than 1, you're probably lying, seeing as he's pretty much a guaranteed first-round draft choice, and possibly even the #1 pick overall.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...inless-lions-will-pounce-on-joey-bosa-at-no-1
 
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ND RT Ronnie Stanley 6'6" 315

vs.

OSU DE Joey Bosa 6'6" 275

I am guessing that in terms of sheer strength Stanley is the stronger of the two. Further, I am guessing that in terms of sheer speed Bosa is the faster of the two.

So........we shall see but it sounds like strength vs. speed and of course, who has the best moves (skill set if you will).

My experience, and I don't claim to be an expert, is that speed with the right moves trumps sheer strength. It all depends on Stanley's ability to move laterally and his ability to deal with Bosa's techniques (ie. swim, rip, bull rush). The amount of PT and conditioning will be an important factor in this match up. This will be fun to ISO and watch what happens.
 
I don't know why you seem to think that Bosa picks where he lines up or "avoids" anyone. The DL lines up per what is called from the sidelines, which is based on offensive formation, down and distance, etc. And, for that matter, how many DE's has Stanley faced this year with Bosa's skill set? If you say more than 1, you're probably lying, seeing as he's pretty much a guaranteed first-round draft choice, and possibly even the #1 pick overall.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...inless-lions-will-pounce-on-joey-bosa-at-no-1
of course he may go # 1 overall. he's very good. but the # 1 pick is generally a need pick also. hopefully for you guys bosa will lay off the wacky tobacky during this time.
 
If Stanley can handle Bosa one-on-one, I'll be impressed. He draws a double-team most of the time. Guys that try to handle him one-on-one usually end up helping their QB up off the turf.
Stanley is a first round NFL pick. I would be amazed if Stanley couldn't handle him. No one has taken on Stanley head to head this year. As mentioned, Bosa has not seen a LT like him.
 
Stanley is a first round NFL pick. I would be amazed if Stanley couldn't handle him. No one has taken on Stanley head to head this year. As mentioned, Bosa has not seen a LT like him.
You've apparently forgotten, or perhaps didn't know, that Bosa has spent the last 3 years going head-to-head with Taylor Decker in practice every day. Decker is also a first-round prospect, and is the #3 OT, right behind Stanley, who is #2. Decker and Stanley are pretty much identical in size. I don't think there's much that Stanley will do that Bosa hasn't already seen many, many times over. On the other hand, ND does not have a DE that is in Bosa's league, so that would seem to tilt the OT/DE matchup in OSU's favor.
 
You've apparently forgotten, or perhaps didn't know, that Bosa has spent the last 3 years going head-to-head with Taylor Decker in practice every day. Decker is also a first-round prospect, and is the #3 OT, right behind Stanley, who is #2. Decker and Stanley are pretty much identical in size. I don't think there's much that Stanley will do that Bosa hasn't already seen many, many times over. On the other hand, ND does not have a DE that is in Bosa's league, so that would seem to tilt the OT/DE matchup in OSU's favor.
decker while a very good player has nowhere near the feet that stanley has. had decker continued through with his commitment to notre dame he would be nd's starting right tackle. a position where he'll play at the next level. stanley is a prototypical left tackle.
 
decker while a very good player has nowhere near the feet that stanley has. had decker continued through with his commitment to notre dame he would be nd's starting right tackle. a position where he'll play at the next level. stanley is a prototypical left tackle.
I guess we'll just have to line 'em up and let 'em play, then. You willing to come back here and post a mea culpa on January 2nd? :)
 
Stanley will win this matchup nine out of ten times, but Bosa is the kind of talent that the one out of ten times he wins this matchup results in a sack or TFL. Should be a great game within the game. Wish ND had a Bosa like talent on our DL.
 
It's a great match-up. TO's and Line play will determine who wins. I can only hope ND was saving it up for this game in getting TOs. They are way overdue. Hello, Mr. Redfield?

Aside from that, I think we will see at least 3 trick plays from Urban. He may re-institute that Tebow jump pass down near the goal line, and that fake run and step back pass a few times. He will be studying that Stanford game tape and while I don't think his QB is as good as Hogan, he got to see what worked almost flawlessly.

Jarron Jones will be nice to have back for adding depth and giving breathers, but the one guy I wish we could have back is Tyler Eifert, er, Drue Tranquil. He is a run stuffer. Martini plays OLB but I'd love to see him (or Coney) given a shot inside for Schmidt. Really, Coney given a shot anywhere.
 
38-28 OSU. I don't think the Irish D will be able to shut OU down. But ND will be able to score and if they get a couple of turnovers I could see ND flipping the tables on that score.
 
Weisnheimer..............,

Re: "Aside from that, I think we will see at least 3 trick plays from Urban. He may re-institute that Tebow jump pass down near the goal line, and that fake run and step back pass a few times. He will be studying that Stanford game tape and while I don't think his QB is as good as Hogan, he got to see what worked almost flawlessly."

Look for a tight end or wide out to catch a short pass and then throw a pass to the QB most likely in the end zone. In most cases the QB will be wide open because other receivers will be dragging DB's to the other side of the field or end zone.

Also, look for the QB to roll right and throw to the TE coming from the right and heading to the flat on the left side usually wide open.
 
decker while a very good player has nowhere near the feet that stanley has. had decker continued through with his commitment to notre dame he would be nd's starting right tackle. a position where he'll play at the next level. stanley is a prototypical left tackle.

Saw Taylor Decker play once this year against MSU and he was ineffective and off balance. Come to think of it, not sure I heard much of Bosa's name being called either when MSU said, Hey our backup QB is in here and we're not going to throw at all, try to stop our run game.
 
Weisnheimer..............,

Re: "Aside from that, I think we will see at least 3 trick plays from Urban. He may re-institute that Tebow jump pass down near the goal line, and that fake run and step back pass a few times. He will be studying that Stanford game tape and while I don't think his QB is as good as Hogan, he got to see what worked almost flawlessly."

Look for a tight end or wide out to catch a short pass and then throw a pass to the QB most likely in the end zone. In most cases the QB will be wide open because other receivers will be dragging DB's to the other side of the field or end zone.


Also, look for the QB to roll right and throw to the TE coming from the right and heading to the flat on the left side usually wide open.


Yea, they did a similar play to that against SC but McCaffrey tossed it to Hogan.
 
How about that write up on the front page listing Meyer's bowl resume. WOW! Is there any coach that has a better bowl resume? Bobby Bowden comes to mind but other than that no one else comes close.

I did not realize there are so darned many ND coaches now coaching at tOSU. That must make it a nightmare for Kelly when it comes to putting together the game plan. Talk about "Behind Enemy Lines".

Just where are the posters that were saying tOSU is over rated and a fraud? Score predictions anyone?
 
The last few times ND and OSU have met, the Buckeyes have had NDs number. I count the Holtz years also. With that said, I think this time around ND turns the tables and get the win. This Irish team is different than any team I've seen in the last 20 plus years. They will not be overmatched like they were against LSU, Alabama and OSU in the Brady Quinn years. That team was talented also. But they were lacking something. This years team has something different. I'll say the final score will be ND 38. OSU 31
 
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The last few times ND and OSU have met, the Buckeyes have had NDs number. I count the Holtz years also. With that said, I think this time around ND turns the tables and get the win. This Irish team is different than any team I've seen in the last 20 plus years. They will not be overmatched like they were against LSU, Alabama and OSU in the Brady Quinn years. That team was talented also. But they were lacking something. This years team has something different. I'll say the final score will be ND 38. OSU 31
ugh. i believe it was the 95 game in columbus. first half nd was dominating osu in every phase. 2nd half starts with nd getting a three and out. emmit mosely i believe fumbles the punt, osu recovers and the game totally turned.
 
Stanley will win this matchup nine out of ten times, but Bosa is the kind of talent that the one out of ten times he wins this matchup results in a sack or TFL. Should be a great game within the game. Wish ND had a Bosa like talent on our DL.
It's not his speed that gets his sacks, it's his motor. He's not a pure edge rusher that's why he moves inside on passing situations. Bosa isn't going to burn Stanley but he could get a sack from Kizer holding on to the ball for a long time like he does a lot. It's rare our Oline gets beat, sacks typically come (similar to roethlisberger) where Kizer holds on to the ball for a long time waiting for sometign to open up.
 
ugh. i believe it was the 95 game in columbus. first half nd was dominating osu in every phase. 2nd half starts with nd getting a three and out. emmit mosely i believe fumbles the punt, osu recovers and the game totally turned.


Echo, I believe your right. I also remember Bobby Hoying hitting i think Joey Galloway for a slant that went for an 80 yard TD.
 
I do not want ND to play OSU. OSU defense line are good to mess up on Kizer's game plan. OSU HC Meyer knew about how good Kizer's pass and rushes.
OSU will score high than 40's why? Because of ND's SS and CB always missing the tackles.Zoon will be very busy in all quarters
OSU 49
ND 19
 
The "t" was introduced to help stop people from confusing Ohio State from Ohio University. Ohio State is the huge school that is good at football. Ohio University is the average sized school that is good at being a university.

I changed it for you. I can't stand it ether.

Jesus may save your soul, but Touchdown Jesus isn't saving your team. Meyer puts a chip on OSU's shoulder after missing the playoff, and they play with attitude.

OSU 35, ND 21

Go Bucks!!
 
Saw Taylor Decker play once this year against MSU and he was ineffective and off balance. Come to think of it, not sure I heard much of Bosa's name being called either when MSU said, Hey our backup QB is in here and we're not going to throw at all, try to stop our run game.

And yet, he is an All American.
 
Gonna be fun to come back and visit this thread on Jan. 2nd. Irish tears will be salty.

You do know I was questioning the previous poster who suggested that
Decker is not a good player, correct?

I have no idea what the score will be, but i don't expect ND to beat Ohio State.
 
You do know I was questioning the previous poster who suggested that
Decker is not a good player, correct?

I have no idea what the score will be, but i don't expect ND to beat Ohio State.
Yeah, I gotcha. The MSU game was a total fiasco for the whole OSU team, coaches included. Basing an evaluation off of that one game would not be an accurate measure of anyone.
 
You do know I was questioning the previous poster who suggested that
Decker is not a good player, correct?

I have no idea what the score will be, but i don't expect ND to beat Ohio State.

I have to agree.
 
DAYTON , thanks. I wasn't positive. That OSU team was stacked that year.

There's a really funny clip of it on Youtube where they are interviewing Regis Philbin on the sideline as it happens. Probably more funny to me, since my team scored.
 
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