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All I'll say is this... Although I'm not as connected as I once was, I still have some pretty reliable sources that I trust and give me some good information. Notre Dame currently leads or co-leads for 4 players the staff highly covets and possibly a 5th depending on the outcome of a particular situation.
I have no problem promoting the idea that ND will have at least 16 commitments heading into fall camp and all of them are tier 1 or tier 1(a) recruits relative to ND's board.
Considering the season ND is coming off of, Mike Elston and his team of assistants as well as Dave Peloquin and Aaron Kerney and their team in the recruiting office, are working their asses off.
I'm also expecting ND to eventually land commitments from a pair of tier 2, but still quality 4 star recruits in Indiana natives Buck Cameron McGrone and CB DJ Johnson.
I have no problem promoting the idea that ND will have at least 16 commitments heading into fall camp and all of them are tier 1 or tier 1(a) recruits relative to ND's board.
Considering the season ND is coming off of, Mike Elston and his team of assistants as well as Dave Peloquin and Aaron Kerney and their team in the recruiting office, are working their asses off.
I'm also expecting ND to eventually land commitments from a pair of tier 2, but still quality 4 star recruits in Indiana natives Buck Cameron McGrone and CB DJ Johnson.
Of course others will use anything they can to gain an edge in the recruiting game. The question is whether it will have any impact at all on any recruits thinking. I m guessing absolutely not.
Well, we kinda agree; I just think the possibility adds to the list of negative recruiting ideas that can be employed vs ND. Do you doubt for a moment that Meyer or Harbaugh will bring ths up? General impression is that while at ND, Kelly has has constant QB controversy.
If ND falters at the start of the season, and Meyer is still shopping, PJ will likely hear many pitches and this will be among them.
So, it did not help, it adds to the cumulative effect.
So you think Urban Meyer is going to talk to a Defensive Tackle recruit about Kelly's honest evaluation of a QB, who fell to the 2nd Round......and that's going to convince the Defensive Tackle recruit to go to Ohio State instead of Notre Dame?
Wow......
I'm gonna go out on a limb and bet that Meyer absolutely does NOT do that.
Lol. Just keep telling yourself that.
By the way, Jurkovek isn't talking to Meyer (at all) according to him and Meyer went and landed a different QB committed after he missed on Jurkovec (Emory Jones)
You have yet to be right, even 1x, in this thread. We can only hop that time is growing short for you.
Hunter, Beal, Hood, Barnett, Werner ...
to name a few who were all Irish!
i am aware of the PJ comments about recruiting, but nothing is cut in stone when it comes to recruiting 17/18 year old young men.
And if Meyer is not completely sold on his guy, he will not stop trying just because you posted some dribble.
The good news for ND fans is when ND does 'bit the bullet', you will be gone too. ND is for ND fans.
to name a few who were all Irish!
i am aware of the PJ comments about recruiting, but nothing is cut in stone when it comes to recruiting 17/18 year old young men.
And if Meyer is not completely sold on his guy, he will not stop trying just because you posted some dribble.
The good news for ND fans is when ND does 'bit the bullet', you will be gone too. ND is for ND fans.
I have absolutely no idea what idiocy you're droning on about now.
Meyer is NOT recruiting Jurkovek anymore, as he's been told to pound dirt....and Meyer now has a new (and high quality) QB commit
While I don't at all debate that Meyer will continue to recruit anyone he wants/needs....he certainly won't be using the drivel you've suggested in this thread
You've outed the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about
Guess again, decommit #1 for Kelly post Kizer fiasco. But I am sure it's nothing. It's the slow time of the year for recruiting, right?
Lol.
This is comic gold.
So when Thomas Book, Houston Griffith, Kevin Austin, and Franklin commit this summer....what will you're excuse be?
Literally all of those Tier 1 recruits are trending HARD towards ND right now (and 2-3 are have likely already silently committed)
So yes, it's just a slow time of year.
You're just an idiot
Yes it is a slow time. Has the young man who decommited stated that it was because of Brian kellys honest assessment of deshone kizer ? Are you really that naive ? Verbals are just that. Haven t we all seen this happen tons of times in the past at every school ? Oh, what fiasco are you referring to ?
this decommit was just typical of the recruiting times. As a few of these kids realize more options they naturally begin to look around at those options.
Griffith is a big time target. He is well outside the usual ND shopping aisle and such a commitment would be interesting. Florida (IMG) kid, top offers, this one will be interesting, especially in Nov/Dec.
Also on recruits D Allen might eventually be more like a Tranquill type. S/CB may not be his pos (expect UGA to make a big move on this kid)So jmo, ND does not currently have a DB commit.
Obviously all the SEC territory elite DB's that commit will be aggressively targeted by SEC/tOSU. The '17 season will influence how ND closes this DB class.
Griffith is a big time target. He is well outside the usual ND shopping aisle and such a commitment would be interesting. Florida (IMG) kid, top offers, this one will be interesting, especially in Nov/Dec.
Also on recruits D Allen might eventually be more like a Tranquill type. S/CB may not be his pos (expect UGA to make a big move on this kid)So jmo, ND does not currently have a DB commit.
Obviously all the SEC territory elite DB's that commit will be aggressively targeted by SEC/tOSU. The '17 season will influence how ND closes this DB class.
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Allen's high school is about 5 minutes from my house. Two opposing coaches have told me the kid is an amazing talent. You can never tell how a kid will grow, but he could be a DB, he could be an amazing Will down the road.
IIO,
I doubt we pull an O-fer. Nor will we go 5-5. However, I would be ecstatic over 3 out of 5.
I'm going out on a limb here, but I'd be willing to bet you're replying to the board's village idiot. That guy has no life outside this message board with his 30k posts and pretends as though he's some sort of expert.
Two of my all-time favorite quotes from him:
"I don't know about that commitment. I'll have to see more film".
"I know what I'm talking about. I put in the work".
Do yourself a favor and put him on ignore - quickly.
This is mainly wrong.
1.) Griffith is a pretty normal ND kid. He's actually from Chicago. He's only spent his senior season at IMG. That's similar to many of the other IMG kids that ND has landed. Though he's definitely an elite CB.
2.) You're a moron if you don't think Allen can stick at safety. You've clearly not watched any of his tape, or followed any of his performances at camps this summer. He's a big safety, but he has fantastic fluidity and coverage skills, and will easily stay at safety...if he wants to (and he does).
Additionally, he comes from a military family. His tie to Georgia isn't that strong, as he hasn't live there his whole life....and as an Army Captain, his dad takes commitment SERIOUSLY.
Kid will end as a 5* safety, more than likely, and may well EE at ND.
ND will need to take 3 CB's and 1 Safety in this class, and at the moment they have 1 Safety in Allen.
ND looks likely to land 2 CBs in Houston Griffith (High 4*, Potential 5*) and Donald Johnson (In-State 4*)
Losing Gervin hurts, because ND could have locked up an entire elite CB class before the season even starts.....he's a really good "bump and run" cover guy.
But ND still has a VERY good DB class shaping up, at the moment.
For now, we don't even have a WILL in our base defense.
Allen could develop into a Rover if he wants (S/LB Hybrid) but he's not going to be a MIKE or a BUCK, who's primary responsibilities are crashing against the run and rushing the passer.
Based on what he's shown so far, he'll be able to play either FS or SS, whichever gets him on the field faster.
Allen could be an elite safety. That said, he could be a once-in-a-generation Rover at ND.... Although so could have Jaylon at 230lbs... My guess is that Allen will play safety because that's hit ticket to the NFL. Notre Dame will have look at what's best for him, as well as them. Derek is a stud. Harrison Smith type size and athleticism and I doubt he'll have the early struggles Smith did. Day 1 starter, IMO, if he sticks to his pledge.
FS: Derek Allen
2. Nick Coleman
3. Devin Studstill
SS: Jalen Elliot
2. Isaiah Robertson
3. Jordan Genmark-Heath
BC: Nick Watkins
2. Donte Vaughn
3. Houston Griffith
FC: Julian
2. Shaun Crawford
3. Troy Pride Jr
Rover: Drue Tranquill
1(A). Shaun Crawford (nickel)
2. Asmar Bilal
3. Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
If ND can lock down that commitment from Griffith, I absolutely love the 3-deep on the backend of the ND defense. Big, athletic, versatile and deep. Add 2 more CB'S to this class that won't have to play for 2-3 years and we're talking about a loaded secondary and that's without further development from guys like Ashton White, Nicco Fertitta, etc, etc.
Drue has at least two years.... Could apply for a 6th year because he had two entire years wiped out by injury. It would be something the NCAA would have to consider. Drue is a lock for a 5th if he wants it.
A list full of good players. You always rant about ND' lack of quality and depth at positions. I'm simply illustrating that if ND adds Griffith and holds onto Allen, they add two potential impact freshman to a secondary that already has quite a bit of talent. I think Isaiah Robertson really impressed as an early enrollee and has great size, range and desire to hit for a young safety. At 6'2, he's got a great frame. Everyone knows Julian Love is a player. There is a reason that Meyer desperately tried to flip him late last year. You saw it as a freshman. Kid can play. Watkins is finally healthy and looking good in the spring. Crawford has a long recovery to get back to even close to 100%, but he was the most athletic player of the group before he got hurt. I've been bitching for 2 years about Tranquill moving to SAM (Rover in this defense). They made the move and guess what? Perfect fit.
It may be a list. But it's a list chalked full of talent for the first time in a long time.
The problem with such list is they are as if the other guys don't have lists. Example: list 5 guys that are vvery high leans to USC? Or tOSU? yes ND is doing very well, but looking at those list is perspective. Everyone is recruiting. And those lists are guys that are 'yet to be'. And further the season will affect lists, positively or negatively.
And recall for 3 pre-seasons your DL lists were everything was 'honky-dorrie'. And? Those that saw the reality were shouted down in favor of those lists.
He only had one year wiped out by injury, his frosh year he played in 11 games, soph 3 games, and all the games last year.
Thanks IIO for your analysis and list. Although I know every single name could move around on that chart for one reason or another, I appreciate getting your snapshot at this point in time. I like a one page overview.
What they hell are you trying to say here?
Other teams are good too?
ND's back-end, if it develops how how it looks like it is/should...will be better than most other teams.
We can see that upsets you though, so try to process it slowly
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