ND will win by at least 3 td's vs NC st

[SiberianKnightmare]

I mean this is just inaccurate.

Marshall is 6-1
Furman is 5-3
L' Ville is 5-3
Cuse is 4-4 with a win over Clemson

I stand corrected.

You've beaten 1 power 5 team with a winning record, a CUSA team with a winning record and an FCS team with a winning record. BTW, I live in Greenville near Furman. They are the size of an average high school.

You haven't see anything close to what you'll see on Saturday. Your BEST win is over an unranked team with 3 losses already. ND has seen better than NC State.

No one knows Fool's Gold better than ND fans. NCSU is fool's gold.

 

[irish4life888]

http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=222502426

http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=223132426

Lol one game from 16 years ago under coach Willingham. Well proof is in the pudding. All will be taken care of on Saturday. Most who follow college football know that there is no comparison from Furman to Navy. Not all cupcakes are equal for sure.

 

[ciscopack]

Why don't you schedule Navy? Find out what they're all about.

We've played Navy over the years. Georgia Tech is much tougher most every year with the same game plan. Hell Wake Forest cut blocks with the best of them.

 

[ciscopack]

Lol one game from 16 years ago under coach Willingham. Well proof is in the pudding. All will be taken care of on Saturday. Most who follow college football know that there is no comparison from Furman to Navy. Not all cupcakes are equal for sure.

I heard the Mayberry jokes eating breakfast before our triple overtime loss to the reigning National Champs at OSU...I forgot the t. I like Andy and Mayberry and Barney.....take me back and drop me off. The Gator Bowl....50 yard line seats with over 50,000 Wolfpack fans, about 16,000 ND fans and others


Here's 3 more links for you....

https://www.backingthepack.com/nc-state-football/2017/10/24/16529068/nc-state-football-sports-grudges-are-weird-why-i-never-notre-dame
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Gator_Bowl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Gator_Bowl
http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400868951
http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400868951
https://www.backingthepack.com/nc-s...orts-grudges-are-weird-why-i-never-notre-dame

 

[alpha08]

I was not ripping Navy, whom I respect very much. FBS or FCS, you guys schedule plenty of games that are virtual locks every year. That is all I was saying. We all do that. The difference is you can't seem to admit it. You guys are talking about a national title this year - are you honestly telling me that Temple, and Miami (OH), and Navy, whom you are 76-13 against, are tough games because they are FBS schools? At least you didn't continue your "tradition" of playing Purdue every year, another yearly game that ND seems to dominate (12-3 in your last 15 games, and 7 straight overall). I am not here to argue. Notre Dame is a great team. But you cannot honestly tell me that you don't understand what I am talking about. We all do it. ND included.

 

[Syd4ND]

I was not ripping Navy, whom I respect very much. FBS or FCS, you guys schedule plenty of games that are virtual locks every year. That is all I was saying. We all do that. The difference is you can't seem to admit it. You guys are talking about a national title this year - are you honestly telling me that Temple, and Miami (OH), and Navy, whom you are 76-13 against, are tough games because they are FBS schools? At least you didn't continue your "tradition" of playing Purdue every year, another yearly game that ND seems to dominate (12-3 in your last 15 games, and 7 straight overall). I am not here to argue. Notre Dame is a great team. But you cannot honestly tell me that you don't understand what I am talking about. We all do it. ND included.

I'm not sure I'd call Navy the last 10 years a virtual lock. Like I said I'd love to see NCST play them. I think most years in the recent past Navy would beat or go 4 quarters with NCST.

 

[Syd4ND]

In fact NCST is 3-6 all time vs Navy.

 

[irish4life888]

I heard the Mayberry jokes eating breakfast before our triple overtime loss to the reigning National Champs at OSU...I forgot the t. I like Andy and Mayberry and Barney.....take me back and drop me off. The Gator Bowl....50 yard line seats with over 50,000 Wolfpack fans, about 16,000 ND fans and others


Here's 3 more links for you....

https://www.backingthepack.com/nc-state-football/2017/10/24/16529068/nc-state-football-sports-grudges-are-weird-why-i-never-notre-dame
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Gator_Bowl
http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400868951

I don't get the Mayberry analogy other than I know it's in NC. As far as the article you linked, I quit reading at, "People forget about this now, but first year coach Ty Willingham injected energy into a lagging program that Brian Kelly is now benefitting from". That is hilariously stupid stuff.

 

[alpha08]

Best of luck to Notre Dame in the upcoming game this Saturday. You are a great team. I am not going to engage in a discussion where I am in a position to diminish the Naval Academy football team. Great program and great kids. This discussion started because I stated that if you are Notre Dame, it doesnt matter if you are playing Furman or if you are playing Miami (OH), those are virtual locks regardless. Arguing the difference between playing those two is inconsequential if you have national championship aspirations. Again, good luck.

 

[Syd4ND]

Well you weren't put in that position, that's what you did.

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

Uh, Navy is a tough game. They've won 9+ games just about every year for a while now.

No one here is focusing on Temple and Miami of Ohio. We keep pointing out we have a tough schedule with USC, Michigan State and Georgia. Somehow, that translates into Temple being a tough game.

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

2-0 all time. Thank you.

UCF is 1-0 against Alabama and Georgia all time so...

 

[alpha08]

Well you weren't put in that position, that's what you did.

Not true. I did not diminish Navy. I said that if you have national title hopes, like ND does, you cannot claim that Navy, Miami OH and Temple are difficult games. Then the discussion was shifted to Navy's credibility as a program. That was not the original intent of the discussion and hence I am withdrawing from it.

 

[Syd4ND]

"you cannot claim that Navy, Miami OH and Temple are difficult games." - So this is not diminishing? Okay good luck this week.

 

[alpha08]

God Bless our service men and women. Go Pack. Good luck.

 

[IRISHJD98]

FCS or FBS those are essentially guaranteed wins all day. It doesn't matter if you play Furman or if you play Miami (OH). Those are easy games. You guys play Navy every year, and your record against them is 76-13-1. You can call those games "tradition" all you want. But the reality is the only tradition is a Notre Dame free victory, generally speaking. I get your point about Furman, but don't act like Notre Dame is immune to cupcake games because they don't play FCS teams.

I know from your last couple of post you're wanting to move on from these comments, but one significant difference between FBS schools and FCS schools is that FCS schools only have 63 scholarships and operate on significantly smaller budgets for coaching, staff, and facilities. Cupcakes or not, FBS schools walk into games with FCS opponents with a built in systemic advantage.

That said, I agree with the overarching point that there's not enough difference in the level of competition our teams have faced to suggest that NC State is less tested than Notre Dame. Your team's earned your confidence.

But as far as discounting the tradition in Notre Dame's games against Navy and Purdue, that's just complete and total ignorance of the history of our program. Purdue had the stones to play us back when Michigan, Fielding Yost and the rest of the Big 10 were too chicken, though Yost successfully bullied Purdue into avoiding us for a while (causing the only "big" break in the series since we first played in 1896). Purdue ended winning streaks for both Frank Leahy and Ara (twice) after National Championship seasons. Purdue still holds the record for most points scored by an opponent in Notre Dame Stadium. The history of the ND - Navy rivalry is so documented it doesn't even need discussion.

We are one of the winninest programs in college football history. So sure, our series against Purdue and Navy have been lopsided in our favor. Our series against Alabama has been too. NC State fans should take pride in the fact that they have one of the few teams that completely own a series against Notre Dame, and they are bringing their best team in the series (IMO) to Notre Dame Stadium Saturday. It should be a great game to watch. But don't be an ankle-biter about our traditional rivals.

 

[alpha08]

I agree with all of the above. Go Pack.

 

[Zorich 88]

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I agree with all of the above. Go Pack.

I thought you left and signed off already.

 

[alpha08]

Playing at Notre Dame will be a very tough challenge. I hope the mystique of it all doesn't get to us. Also hope it doesn't rain. That would be advantage Irish.

 

[IRISHJD98]

Playing at Notre Dame will be a very tough challenge. I hope the mystique of it all doesn't get to us. Also hope it doesn't rain. That would be advantage Irish.

The mystique didn't get to other first time visitor we had this year. Opinions vary, but chance of rain and the temp prediction has been going down this week (today's prediction was 42 and overcast at game time) with the wind going up (10-20 mph). Link

Two healthy teams, low chance of rain, no excuses.

Go Irish!

 

[mirer03]

I was not ripping Navy, whom I respect very much. FBS or FCS, you guys schedule plenty of games that are virtual locks every year. That is all I was saying. We all do that. The difference is you can't seem to admit it. You guys are talking about a national title this year - are you honestly telling me that Temple, and Miami (OH), and Navy, whom you are 76-13 against, are tough games because they are FBS schools? At least you didn't continue your "tradition" of playing Purdue every year, another yearly game that ND seems to dominate (12-3 in your last 15 games, and 7 straight overall). I am not here to argue. Notre Dame is a great team. But you cannot honestly tell me that you don't understand what I am talking about. We all do it. ND included.

You are the worst type of ncsu fan. Sorry man ncsu has the shittiest fanbase in the country. And yes I took calculus in harroldson hall and sat next to Danny strong in abnormal psychology when the instructor said anyone that showed up would get an a or b in the class. And trust me he was not the only athlete in the class. Ncsu fans that think they are nationally relevant because of the exploits of 1983 and David Thompson. Reality hits Saturday. Your not relevant and your schedule year in and year out sucks. I loved paying Wolfpack club lifetime rights to play freaking southern Alabama. But your right ND as one of three schools to never schedule a lower division team schedules the same as freaking little sister ncsu. Enjoy the 1000 ncsu fans at ND Saturday.

 

[francade]

Gotta love the rival fans that visit and mention Navy as an easy win. I would love to see them play navy every year. Comparing navy w/ some of the dregs of other teams’ schedules is uninformed. Go ahead, nc state, schedule Navy every year and then come back in a few and tell us how easy it was playing and beating them, every year. They’re better than half the power 5 teams out there, no question. Enough w/ the navy is a cupcake talk, it’s gibberish.

 

[Direwolf33]

Navy is a cupcake. Dilly dilly. Excuse me giber, giber

 

[alpha08]

The mystique didn't get to other first time visitor we had this year. Opinions vary, but chance of rain and the temp prediction has been going down this week (today's prediction was 42 and overcast at game time) with the wind going up (10-20 mph). Link

Two healthy teams, low chance of rain, no excuses.

Go Irish!

Do you find that the mystique usually gets to first time visitors?

 

[IRISHJD98]

Do you find that the mystique usually gets to first time visitors?

Only if you think of inspiring teams to come out and play us at a high level. But I'm pretty sure that's not the way you were using"mystique" in the post I was responding too.

What's up with your handle change?

 

[alpha08]

When I say "mystique" I mean getting caught up in the hoopla. The fight song. The leprechaun. The history of it all, touchdown jesus, etc. Does it have a negative impact on the visitor is what I meant.

I just joined (could finally afford it haha) and have been playing around with my handles. Henceforth I am alpha08.

 

[zonairish]

Navy is a cupcake. Dilly dilly. Excuse me giber, giber

Navy is a good team and no cupcake.

 

[francade]

Funny stuff, direwolf, but u’re dead wrong about the middies. They’re a pain in the ass and should be counted as one of the tough games on anyone’s schedule rather than a cupcake. The last 10-12 years they would’ve beaten nc state more than lost, no doubt.

 

[Direwolf33]

You know that statement has no way of being proven. All time the Pack is 3-6 against navy. The Last time they played before the Rivers game was 1921. Rivers era was 12 years ago. It was a beat down. So in modern era of football the Pack has not lost.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Here are my predictions to finish the year:

ND 30 NCState 15
ND 38 Wake Forest 11
ND 28 Miami 13
ND 44 Navy 12
ND 31 Stanford 19

That will make our points given up in games as 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 ,18, 19, & 20

If that comes to pass and ND finishes the season against the trees 31 - 19 then conference ties be damned and ND should be in the Playoffs!

 

[HDK]

Navy is a good team and no cupcake.

While not a cupcake, I wouldn't call Navy a good team year in and year out. Sometimes they are pretty good, some times very pedestrian. What they are, though, is disciplined and well trained in their system. They can certainly cause their share of headaches.

 

[francade]

Direwolf, look back at navy’s records from Paul Johnson until now, they’ve beaten teams like Pitt, ND, duke, Missouri, wake and others (some multiple times) and have several fg losses to teams like Ohio State, ND and other big programs. Jump on board w/ the rest of the country that doesn’t have to play them every year if it makes you feel better, but the next time you try to lump navy in w/ furman, do some research first. And I would take navy the last 15 years to win more than not against a team that’s been .500 their entire history. You’re right, there’s no way to prove it, either way, but my money’s on navy against nc state more times than not in the last 15 years. Just my opinion. Good luck this Saturday. May the better team win.

 

[NDTitan]

Yes, the Wolf pack have a good dline.

Yes, the QB puts yards up through the air.

Yes, the RB has also put up some nice numbers.

But! They have not seen a team as well balanced and explosive as this Norte Dame team.

They struggled and lost against an average SC team.

Most of all, ND will over power NC ST in the run game. Georgia has much better LBs. That is why Georgia held the ND run game. Plus, BW was playing his first real BIG game.

I look for ND to rush for over 300 yards.

BW will throw for over 200 and have zero interceptions.

Wolfpack 20

Irish 41

You're jinxing us dude. Please stop with the blowout predictions. The same thing happened with Alabama in the NC.

 

[Direwolf33]

Direwolf, look back at navy’s records from Paul Johnson until now, they’ve beaten teams like Pitt, ND, duke, Missouri, wake and others (some multiple times) and have several fg losses to teams like Ohio State, ND and other big programs. Jump on board w/ the rest of the country that doesn’t have to play them every year if it makes you feel better, but the next time you try to lump navy in w/ furman, do some research first. And I would take navy the last 15 years to win more than not against a team that’s been .500 their entire history. You’re right, there’s no way to prove it, either way, but my money’s on navy against nc state more times than not in the last 15 years. Just my opinion. Good luck this Saturday. May the better team win.

In the last 15 years the Pack has had Wilson and Rivers as QB for 8 of them. The remaining games Navy may win three of them. Yes they practice hard and are very disciplined but talent wins out if you don’t overlook them.

 

[francade]

They practice hard? Lmao. Just ftr, this thread went from “navy is a cupcake” to “they may beat us a few times”. So you think furman would beat you a few times. Whatever, you wanna call navy a patsy, go ahead, I’ll call half the power 5 patsies then, cuz navy is as good or better than half of them.

 

[zonairish]

Direwolf, look back at navy’s records from Paul Johnson until now, they’ve beaten teams like Pitt, ND, duke, Missouri, wake and others (some multiple times) and have several fg losses to teams like Ohio State, ND and other big programs. Jump on board w/ the rest of the country that doesn’t have to play them every year if it makes you feel better, but the next time you try to lump navy in w/ furman, do some research first. And I would take navy the last 15 years to win more than not against a team that’s been .500 their entire history. You’re right, there’s no way to prove it, either way, but my money’s on navy against nc state more times than not in the last 15 years. Just my opinion. Good luck this Saturday. May the better team win.

Furman does not play the division 1 grind. A decent team at that level may be able to defeat a D1 team on a given week however, 1 game does not make these teams equivalent to a Navy. This guy thinks navy is on furman's level is dialing 1800not a clue. Put them on NCST schedule over a 3 year period and tell me about then.

 

[ciscopack]

One Pack, One Goal!

 

[alpha08]

Best of luck to both teams tomorrow. Can't wait. It is an honor to come and visit one of the true hallowed grounds in sports. I hear ND fans are very generous with their beer and food to opposing fans at tailgates. I am coming hungry and thirsty.............

 

[Direwolf33]

Never said Furman was on par with Navy. Nice try. Just saying that you shouldn’t lose to them if you are the better team with more talent. Which most times you guys do

 

[SiberianKnightmare]

As a fan of 2 teams that have to play Navy all the time, I would rather them NOT be on the schedule. Everyone that doesn't have to play them thinks they are a joke. The 12 teams they play each year (and 9-10 that get beat by them) think otherwise.