ND vs psu (from TOS)

[cgvr]

"Scout rankings over the last four years:

2013

ND class ranked: 5th
PSU class ranked: 44th

ND recruits in Rivals 100: 5
PSU recruits in Rivals 100: 2

ND recruits 4 stars or better: 19
PSU recruits 4 stars or better: 2

2014

ND class ranked: 6th
PSU class ranked: 25th

ND recruits in Rivals 100: 4
PSU recruits in Rivals 100: 1

ND recruits 4 stars or better: 16
PSU recruits 4 stars or better: 5

2015

ND class ranked: 6th
PSU class ranked: 13th

ND recruits in Rivals 100: 5
PSU recruits in Rivals 100: 2

ND recruits 4 stars or better: 16
PSU recruits 4 stars or better: 13

2016

ND class ranked: 14th
PSU class ranked: 21th

ND recruits in Rivals 100: 3
PSU recruits in Rivals 100: 4

ND recruits 4 stars or better: 11
PSU recruits 4 stars or better: 8

Four year summary:

ND average recruiting rank over the previous 4 years: 8th
PSU average recruiting rank over the previous 4 years: 26th

ND total players in Rivals 100 over 4 years: 18
PSU total players in Rivals 100 over 4 years: 9

ND 4 or 5 star recruits: 62
Penn State 4 or 5 stars: 30

So ND should have a powerhouse vs Penn State with huge advantages in the talent level, at least according to Scout.com.

Then we hit the 2016 season:

Penn State: 11-2, Big Ten Champions, Strength of Schedule 11th
Notre Dame: 4-8, No bowl game, Strength of Schedule: 30th

It's enough to make you weep."

 

[Gimmea10wincoach]

Coaching......

 

[end_23]

Funny. Where is pindick? I want to see him defend the fraud head coach some more.

 

[88ND]

That says nothing ....

We could have Alabama players and our results wouldn't be much different.

Why?

Our players are lazy, terrible fundamentally...have zero excitement. Going through the motions.

Just like how you can coach up to over achieve ..you can coach down and have players under achieve.

Sadly Brian Kelly falls into the under achieve .....like way underachieving mode.

 

[IrishBlessings]

Does Jack evaluate our program and compare it to other programs ?..

A self comparison to a lot of other programs like Stanford, Penn st. , etc. Clearly illustrate how under performing ND has been every year except for 2 years out of 7. 5 years of under performing. 5 years of abysmal football.

It's complete bullshit that BK was not fired after his debacle as a coach last year.

 

[Extirpate 6951]

Jack puts on a tin foil hat whenever he needs to make a decision not unlike other Kelly supporters!

 

[nemeth#5]

I can't believe our SOS was 30th....... would of guessed it to be around 75th or so.

 

[Kelso86]

That says nothing ....

We could have Alabama players and our results wouldn't be much different.

Why?

Our players are lazy, terrible fundamentally...have zero excitement. Going through the motions.

Just like how you can coach up to over achieve ..you can coach down and have players under achieve.

Sadly Brian Kelly falls into the under achieve .....like way underachieving mode.

"Our players are lazy, terrible fundamentally...have zero excitement. Going through the motions."

I have said this for many years (even before Kelly). Maybe in 2012, there was some passion and energy, but outside of that, none. There is no plausible explanation as to why games, where ND should win by 4-5 TD's, they are scraping by.

 

[Extirpate 6951]

"Our players are lazy, terrible fundamentally...have zero excitement. Going through the motions."

I have said this for many years (even before Kelly). Maybe in 2012, there was some passion and energy, but outside of that, none. There is no plausible explanation as to why games, where ND should win by 4-5 TD's, they are scraping by.

The explanation is atrocious coaching!

 

[Quest4Twelve]

One thing I'd like to see is how many upperclassmen starters they have in the various positions groups. For some god forsaken reason ND is successful when they leadership on both sides of the football (e.g. Manti, Jaylon, Martinx2, Day, etc)

 

[zonairish]

Friends of mine who were PSU in the beginning were not Franklin fans however, now they are all in

 

[sshulk]

Let's see if Franklin can sustain top 10 football ... before the Ohio State miracle most fans wanted him fired. If they loses the Rose Bowl and lose to Pitt next year his seat will already be warm in September

 

[perseverare]

I just doubt the current pennick is the same as the original pennick

continuously had a penchant for creating similar bogus ID's

What would be the motivation for such blind loyalty to a coach and not to a team?