ND Defense
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I see a lot of blame placed on the Coordinators and head ball coach. Confusingly, I don't see many of you complaining about Joe Rudolph. Your OL, new guards or not, should never rush for 1.9 on Louisville. What was it 44 rush yards total? Where is the nastiness?
I don't entirely disagree with this assessment but I saw plenty of guys just getting beat too.
Louisville brought their A game and we didn't. That's the bottom line. And we made a lot of mental mistakes, too - 5 turnovers and several costly penalties.
It’s a fair question.
line pushed around Ohio state. Pushed around Clemson last year
Line play is supposed to travel. Truly bizarre
To me the bizarre nature of the OL performance is attributed to a lack of preparation by their position coach.
I felt Louisville had a certain sense of familiarly with Hartman that the OC couldn't adjust out of
They were also rotating the OL in and out. Another blunder, they should have been doing that against Tennessee state and Central Michigan
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He was subbing guys. Week 7. Against a good team. It’s baffling. Ultimately that’s on the coordinator too.
the issue soundly resides with the offensive coordinator. I mean we held UL to 109 total yards in the first half, and that was after the offense put our defense in some poor field positions with turnovers, and we gave up one big play that entire half.
That should win you most ball games, especially against an offense that managed 21pts against Indiana, and 14 against NCST. Until their TD drive at the end of the 3rd quarter we had held them for under 200yards... defense has shortcomings in spots, but they did not lose this game.
Parker just doesn't have the skills of a Rees who was able to scheme against teams with so many variant formations and looks. He would throw teams off guard even with very poor QB play last year teams couldn't settle in and pin their ears back. We can't get excited about an OC who scooped up most of his yards from two defenses ranked 109th and higher, CMU, and Navy, and an FCS team. NCST, he struggled with for most of the game, and their defense is only ranked 40th.
That should win you most ball games, especially against an offense that managed 21pts against Indiana, and 14 against NCST. Until their TD drive at the end of the 3rd quarter we had held them for under 200yards... defense has shortcomings in spots, but they did not lose this game.
Parker just doesn't have the skills of a Rees who was able to scheme against teams with so many variant formations and looks. He would throw teams off guard even with very poor QB play last year teams couldn't settle in and pin their ears back. We can't get excited about an OC who scooped up most of his yards from two defenses ranked 109th and higher, CMU, and Navy, and an FCS team. NCST, he struggled with for most of the game, and their defense is only ranked 40th.
And yet we still could've won the game, if we hadn't made so many mistakes. The 5 turnovers and several costly penalties could've made a difference. E.g., there was a facemask that took away a 35-yard pass (so it was a 50-yard penalty) and another that extended Louisville's drive when we'd just stopped them on 3rd down. Who knows, eliminate those mistakes and maybe we win the game.
If you re watch the game, i agree with freeman. Oline wasn't good, but they weren't the main problem. Play calling and personnel were, it's very obvious.
Oline has to improve, but when you're letting them get bombarded from everywhere, their confidence and ability to complete their assignments is a lot harder, a lot harder.
Oline has to improve, but when you're letting them get bombarded from everywhere, their confidence and ability to complete their assignments is a lot harder, a lot harder.
We could have won, but the offensive system at the moment is so antiquated the team will continue to battle in nailbiters. That game should have never been that close, yes, they had motivation on their side, but that team struggled to put up points against weaker opponents, and their defense is athletic, but we made it easy for them to defend us.
The worst someone can do is use excuses to say 'well but for mistakes and we win'...but we must ask ourselves why the OL is regressing, why all the pre-snap penalties...it's because they're struggling to hold back an onslaught of defenders because defenses are reading what our offense is doing and just able to tee-off. They need to vary things up more, we do not have crazy mismatch advantages on the perimeter, and we do not have a running QB, so we need far more misdirection and formational switches to confuse defenses and give them eye-candy to confuse them and put them on their heels. This is where Rees was good, as it stands right now teams are to easily able to just come at us downhill and go nuts. Let's see what happens next week against USC....USC's defense is ranked nearly as bad as CMU and worse than Navy. If we struggle for long spurts to score and drive the ball against them, and rely on our defense to keep us in a nailbiter that will tell us all where the problem lies.
A big concern is all the moving in and out along the OL this weekend. This is coaches blaming players and presuming if I switch personnel, I will get a different result (which did not happen) ...hard to get better results when your outnumbered at the line of scrimmage. Instead, they need to concentrate on how to mix things up better and adjust in game to keep our opponent's defenses off-guard and guessing. Just passing once on 1st down is also not considered mismatching...come out four wide (of course we need enough healthy receivers to do this), and run out of that set when the opponent is forced to move guys out of the box, pop a few more jet sweeps, run counter and go run a speedy back like Love naked to the opposite side of the counter, and throw a flea flicker for good measure, and work more screens too...if we hit that one screen against OSU we win the game, it was mostly well executed and we've shied from that a bit since then. Parker needs to anticipate the defenses move quicker and adjust and play call against it and he's struggling with that. Everything the past 7 games has been to vanilla.
What people forget is the last several years Sam Hartman played in the slow mesh...that is a gimmick offense which offers defenses a ton of eye candy and makes them guess each play on run or pass...it puts LB's and safeties on skates because you never know when to step or drop....now he's in a more traditional pro set offense, with little gimmick or misdirection. Teams know what's coming and with Parker struggling being able to confuse defenses and intuitively take what they are giving him the opposition will continue to send everything unabated until we can consistently punish them for it. Particularly since teams know Sam is not a threat to pull the ball on a read option and run.
There's 8 blockers vs 10 defenders on the photo up above. We have one WR out on an island with a DB, that's all that's not in the photo.
yes every play that wasn't the case, but many of them were. Photos don't lie either
Our third down defensive efficiency hasn’t been very good from the OSU game onwards and we’ve been losing the 3rd down battle.
OSU: 10-17; ND: 5-10
Duke: 6-1; ND: 3-15
Louisville: 5-14; ND 3-13
And one frame doesn’t tell the story told by the entire film.
The entire video, not single frames tell you that the battle was lost at the LOS with the front 4 versus Louisville’s front four.
Louisville’s DB’s weren’t anywhere near the LOS, or do you think they just let our WR’s roam free ?
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