ND Defense has given up only 3 TDs in 4 games. Kudos to Golden and the boys.

[Chitown11]

Were we so high on Oben based on what he did in the game against ND last year? I'm very surprised how ineffective he's been so far. Javontae Jean-Baptiste wasn't the dominate force either but definitely played better at this point.

The entire DL has been a dissapointment

 

[Chitown11]

Agree, here. Riley Leonard was injured against NIU, and Denbrock protected him.

So.......why was he playing?

 

[NDinNJ]

They played well enough to win

They still didn't play well that game or at an elite level

The offense was 100% the issue in that game period. Riley Leonard didn't play like a 1st round NFL talent.

 

[Golson5]

The offense was 100% the issue in that game period. Riley Leonard didn't play like a 1st round NFL talent.

Nope. And the special teams were bad and the defense played their worst game and couldn't get the stop when they needed to

 

[IrishMike409]

Were we so high on Oben based on what he did in the game against ND last year? I'm very surprised how ineffective he's been so far. Javontae Jean-Baptiste wasn't the dominate force either but definitely played better at this point.

You're spot on. I was thinking he an immediate backfill for JJB. That hasn't happened.

 

[NDinNJ]

Nope. And the special teams were bad and the defense played their worst game and couldn't get the stop when they needed to

Offense scored 14 points against a sh1t MAC team. It was the offense. you clearly have zero analysis skills.

 

[Golson5]

Offense scored 14 points against a sh1t MAC team. It was the offense. you clearly have zero analysis skills.

The offense was shit. Already said that. Doesn't change the fact that sp teams was awful and the defense couldn't get a stop when it needed to.

Again with the personal attacks. You can't help yourself

 

[NDinNJ]

The offense was shit. Already said that. Doesn't change the fact that sp teams was awful and the defense couldn't get a stop when it needed to.

Again with the personal attacks. You can't help yourself

I'm basically stating truth, if you or I had any analysis skills we'd be employed by a football program. It's not a personal attack. I have much analysis skills as you do.

 

[Get Nasty]

Were we so high on Oben based on what he did in the game against ND last year? I'm very surprised how ineffective he's been so far. Javontae Jean-Baptiste wasn't the dominate force either but definitely played better at this point.

There’s something wrong with him… freeman said he wasn’t physically able to perform vs niu but wasn’t injured

Really weird

 

[Irish_inPSU]

Totally. Maybe it's not that great. It came in great, we were awesome last year, we returned so many key guys, and so far they've delivered pretty much in spades. But maybe we'll be exposed at some point, entirely possible. I guess that's where our cakewalk schedule comes in. Louisville's not bad, but we don't play any juggernauts, outside of Lincoln Riley and USC. So not really sure who's going to expose us.

Yeah, I dont' think we'll be exposed on a "talent" level or anything. I think if the defense has struggles its mostly going to come at the expense of the offensive woes. It doesn't matter how good your defense is if they spend half the game on the field.

 

[savvyandsassier]

Yeah, I dont' think we'll be exposed on a "talent" level or anything. I think if the defense has struggles its mostly going to come at the expense of the offensive woes. It doesn't matter how good your defense is if they spend half the game on the field.

So true. And the NIU game would be a case in point, right? Somehow if our offense had been more effective, doesn't have to be a bunch of extra TDs, but just keeping the defense off the field. We definitely don't lose the game. As if to say, the defense is good enough to win us just about every game on the schedule. And they'll always come through - to a point. And we exceeded that vs NIU. The offense couldnt' do the bare minimum required.

 

[banmate6]

I'll bring up chess again. Good players watch grandmasters and spot mistakes in real time. Putting them in chat.

It doesn't make them better than the grandmaster...but we as fans can have insights. We also can be wrong, as so many chat comments in chess show as well.

Same as football guys. Sometimes we make good calls. Sometimes we are wrong. I still don't see why we need to slang each other.

Just my usual 2 cents.

 

[BGI User 1596]

I'll bring up chess again. Good players watch grandmasters and spot mistakes in real time. Putting them in chat.

It doesn't make them better than the grandmaster...but we as fans can have insights. We also can be wrong, as so many chat comments in chess show as well.

Same as football guys. Sometimes we make good calls. Sometimes we are wrong. I still don't see why we need to slang each other.

Just my usual 2 cents.

You’re talking about Chess strategy with people who have trouble tying shoelaces!