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Now it's coaches promising cash payments through unnamed sources. When is the NCAA going to grow a pair and implement some structure and rules around this.
The NCAA is powerless. They created the mess and now want the federal government to "fix" it. A number of states do have NIL legislation on the books but not all do and the language varies.
 
The NCAA is powerless. They created the mess and now want the federal government to "fix" it. A number of states do have NIL legislation on the books but not all do and the language varies.
Wrong the Supreme Court created a mess
 
Wrong the Supreme Court created a mess
Not true at all. If you knew the history of the movement that led to where we are today you'd know that's not the case. The Court was unanimous in their ruling I believe. There really was no other choice given the laws of the land.
 
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Not true at all. If you knew the history of the movement that led to where we are today you'd know that's not the case. The Court was unanimous in their ruling I believe. There really was no other choice given the laws of the land.
Please explain this history
 
The NCAA could have handled it so much better before the Supreme Court had to get (or maybe never) involved.
Handled what exactly?
No matter what some cat would believe they were going to be harmed and it still would of went to the courts.
So now the universities ADs, the their lawyers need to prepare for a fight
 
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Wrong the Supreme Court created a mess
I know, you're right. It was the SCOTUS! Enforcing the law. The SCOTUS of course is well known for maintaining extremely unjust and ultimately overturned law and public policy, so they're no angels. And they're totally pro-business and pro-establishment, and so if you're like, all rich and powerful, like the NCAA and big universities definitely are, the SCOTUS is usually your friend, and they indeed can and will interpret the law, and the constitution in ways favorable to you. And yet almost with extreme prejudice, and 9-0 unanimity, cutting across all ideological lines, they found in favor of the players' interests. That's how egregious and lawless the exploitation on the part the schools, schools like Notre Dame, really was. And still is. All of these schools, with ND at the forefront, would return to full exploitation if they felt they could somehow get away it, and I don't just mean by the letter of the law, but including societal standards as well. And it's probably too late for that. Nobody really gives a shit about the players, not even liberal do-gooders. But they like to virtue signal, and the exploitation in this case is so awful, and so easy to understand, it's not subtle or with any gray area at all, that no respectable person in polite society with any pretensions to being a moral person, or a 'good' person, could ever go back.

But it's like you say, if the SCOTUS had just held firm with the status quo with another corrupt and intellectually and morally heinous ruling, the way they maintained actual slavery for so many years, and then Jim Crow, we wouldn't be in this mess. That's why NIL was started, the NCAA had no choice, and they did the bare minimum, allowing players to profit off the marketing value of their own individual personhood, which the NCAA used to totally keep for themselves, and they could get in serious trouble if they didn't relinquish at least that much. Where schools like ND used to profit off the players NIL, and kept all the money for themselves.

But eventually those two iniquities were overturned, and such was the case with the NCAA's exploitation racket. It was just too evil!
 
Free market, baby. Don't worry, the haves will obviously play with integrity and we'll quickly reach a just homeostasis with funds trickling down to the have-nots. Soon.
 
I know, you're right. It was the SCOTUS! Enforcing the law. The SCOTUS of course is well known for maintaining extremely unjust and ultimately overturned law and public policy, so they're no angels. And they're totally pro-business and pro-establishment, and so if you're like, all rich and powerful, like the NCAA and big universities definitely are, the SCOTUS is usually your friend, and they indeed can and will interpret the law, and the constitution in ways favorable to you. And yet almost with extreme prejudice, and 9-0 unanimity, cutting across all ideological lines, they found in favor of the players' interests. That's how egregious and lawless the exploitation on the part the schools, schools like Notre Dame, really was. And still is. All of these schools, with ND at the forefront, would return to full exploitation if they felt they could somehow get away it, and I don't just mean by the letter of the law, but including societal standards as well. And it's probably too late for that. Nobody really gives a shit about the players, not even liberal do-gooders. But they like to virtue signal, and the exploitation in this case is so awful, and so easy to understand, it's not subtle or with any gray area at all, that no respectable person in polite society with any pretensions to being a moral person, or a 'good' person, could ever go back.

But it's like you say, if the SCOTUS had just held firm with the status quo with another corrupt and intellectually and morally heinous ruling, the way they maintained actual slavery for so many years, and then Jim Crow, we wouldn't be in this mess. That's why NIL was started, the NCAA had no choice, and they did the bare minimum, allowing players to profit off the marketing value of their own individual personhood, which the NCAA used to totally keep for themselves, and they could get in serious trouble if they didn't relinquish at least that much. Where schools like ND used to profit off the players NIL, and kept all the money for themselves.

But eventually those two iniquities were overturned, and such was the case with the NCAA's exploitation racket. It was just too evil!
Since when has the Supreme Court been known for maintaining extremely unjust laws and public policy

Cite a dozen cases that prove your point !
 
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I know, you're right. It was the SCOTUS! Enforcing the law. The SCOTUS of course is well known for maintaining extremely unjust and ultimately overturned law and public policy, so they're no angels. And they're totally pro-business and pro-establishment, and so if you're like, all rich and powerful, like the NCAA and big universities definitely are, the SCOTUS is usually your friend, and they indeed can and will interpret the law, and the constitution in ways favorable to you. And yet almost with extreme prejudice, and 9-0 unanimity, cutting across all ideological lines, they found in favor of the players' interests. That's how egregious and lawless the exploitation on the part the schools, schools like Notre Dame, really was. And still is. All of these schools, with ND at the forefront, would return to full exploitation if they felt they could somehow get away it, and I don't just mean by the letter of the law, but including societal standards as well. And it's probably too late for that. Nobody really gives a shit about the players, not even liberal do-gooders. But they like to virtue signal, and the exploitation in this case is so awful, and so easy to understand, it's not subtle or with any gray area at all, that no respectable person in polite society with any pretensions to being a moral person, or a 'good' person, could ever go back.

But it's like you say, if the SCOTUS had just held firm with the status quo with another corrupt and intellectually and morally heinous ruling, the way they maintained actual slavery for so many years, and then Jim Crow, we wouldn't be in this mess. That's why NIL was started, the NCAA had no choice, and they did the bare minimum, allowing players to profit off the marketing value of their own individual personhood, which the NCAA used to totally keep for themselves, and they could get in serious trouble if they didn't relinquish at least that much. Where schools like ND used to profit off the players NIL, and kept all the money for themselves.

But eventually those two iniquities were overturned, and such was the case with the NCAA's exploitation racket. It was just too evil!
More nonsense
 
Since when has the Supreme Court been known for maintaining extremely unjust laws and public policy

Cite a dozen cases that prove your point !
The Supreme court moves with society.
At one time slavery was legal then it was not
at one time segregation was legal then it was not
at one time abortion was a federal matter and then it was not
in the end the court will more often then not do this
 
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The Supreme court moves with society.
At one time slavery was legal then it was not
at one time segregation was legal then it was not
at one time abortion was a federal matter and then it was not
in the end the court will more often then not do this
If the Supreme Court ruled in harmony with society at the time of their ruling, then they were not unjust in their rulings.

But if you’re a total idiot, and you view things that happened 200 years ago in the context of today’s society, then you’re beyond help
 
If the Supreme Court ruled in harmony with society at the time of their ruling, then they were not unjust in their rulings.

But if you’re a total idiot, and you view things that happened 200 years ago in the context of today’s society, then you’re beyond help
ITs like those that say the constitution does not apply to things like the internet or anything not invented at the time. Just plain stupid.
 
ITs like those that say the constitution does not apply to things like the internet or anything not invented at the time. Just plain stupid.
That’s incorrect

Read the 10th amendment

In addition, the constitution can and has been amended to include present day situations
 
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