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[perseverare]

nole

that's not what I refer to. But as to what you describe you are exactly correct.

 

[IrishHerb]

^ Sal
it was mentioned that the problem is complicated by the mobile devices. Identifying IP addresses is less straight forward. Maybe Herb can chime in.

Me?

I've always wondered how effective banning a poster based on his/her IP address would be. For example, I post under my handle IrishHerb from many different machines (my iMac, MacBook, iPad, iPhone and before retiring various computers at work). Therefore if I were banned from one IP address, I'd simply move to another machine.

Also, if a number of posters post from a particular public PC (in a library for example) one bad poster could get that PC's IP address banned, thus preventing other posters from posting.

SO its a bit complicated.

Banning a poster based on his/her handle works … until that person sets up a new "account" with a new handle. One way to minimize this would be to require a valid email account to be attached to the new account/handle … but a person can simply get new email accounts free from google, yahoo, aol, etc.

Looks like there isn't any really easy solution if a "bad" poster is really computer savy.

 

[IrishBlooded]

Me?

I've always wondered how effective banning a poster based on his/her IP address would be. For example, I post under my handle IrishHerb from many different machines (my iMac, MacBook, iPad, iPhone and before retiring various computers at work). Therefore if I were banned from one IP address, I'd simply move to another machine.

Also, if a number of posters post from a particular public PC (in a library for example) one bad poster could get that PC's IP address banned, thus preventing other posters from posting.

SO its a bit complicated.

Banning a poster based on his/her handle works … until that person sets up a new "account" with a new handle. One way to minimize this would be to require a valid email account to be attached to the new account/handle … but a person can simply get new email accounts free from google, yahoo, aol, etc.

Looks like there isn't any really easy solution if a "bad" poster is really computer savy.

Currently we ban the handle. It doesn't matter where you log on from.

 

[perseverare]

herb

I agree, if the motivation is strong enough to be disruptive then mechanisms available to ban seem insufficient.
If it is a team effort to disrupt, then the problem is so much more difficult. The only inconvenience is the continual need to create e addresses. One has to wonder about the kind of psychological profile to undertake such efforts and how strong the motivations are. It would not be normal motivation.

 

[cgvr]

Please!! You're right about my interpretation of your participation in this thread, other than exploring the feasibility of banning IP addresses. However, a supposed man like yourself (I make that sexist assumption based on your claim to be a bouncer), should never repeatedly brag about being "invited" to post here by a do nothing moderator like WaxOn. If Wax was actually a good moderator, it would still be odd to act as if you were invited to the White House, when it's a free message board. Also, you used to frequently refer to "Board Ops" as if it was some incredible secret organization to which you had connections, rather than some guys scrolling through the ramblings of buffoons, with a sandwich in hand, on their lunch hour.

Oh, I get it now. My use of board ops as opposed to moderators caused your pea sized brain to conjure up a secret society. You are a very stupid person. PS wax is a fellow alum and dealing with dunces like you was the worst part of his "moderating".

 

[irish6789]

Oh, I get it now. My use of board ops as opposed to moderators caused your pea sized brain to conjure up a secret society. You are a very stupid person. PS wax is a fellow alum and dealing with dunces like you was the worst part of his "moderating".

I don't give a damn what wax is, isn't or claims to be. If you're an alum, it lessens my degree. Thanks for that! Your need to constantly say your an alum seems to be, um, a desperate attempt to make everyone, including yourself, believe it. I think your an ignorant tool, and I'm embarrassed by the thought of sharing an alma mater with you. If you say were a football player or admitted before 1980, I may believe you, but I'm still skeptical.

 

[cgvr]

I don't give a damn what wax is, isn't or claims to be. If you're an alum, it lessens my degree. Thanks for that! Your need to constantly say your an alum seems to be, um, a desperate attempt to make everyone, including yourself, believe it. I think your an ignorant tool, and I'm embarrassed by the thought of sharing an alma mater with you. If you say were a football player or admitted before 1980, I may believe you, but I'm still skeptical.

I doubt you could get into a Notre Dame High School. You are very very stupid.

This comment below from you was an unbridled expression of that....

"If ESPN Gameday was at all of a notable school's games, they would have the number one recruiting class. Period."

Find one recruit out of the tens of thousands available that had his school selection influenced by espn college game day.... Or, just admit you are full of crap.

 

[no1e]

What's your opinion of posters that aren't even ND fans that seem to be compelled to respond to every post by every handle invented by those multi-id lunatics? IMO, they're sadly every bit as crazy (actually moreso) and annoying.

As Andrew stated ...... Rivals (including this site) is a public forum and visitors from other teams are invited to post. Unlike too many to count supposedly ND fans I don't come here and flame ND, its players or coaches. I don't even bring up my own team unless attacked first and feel compelled to defend the ignorance. With the exception of one crazy pathological lunatic who has had over 20 usernames I almost never flame any fans here despite their ignorance and rudeness.

So call me crazy all you want but if I'm annoying follow Andrew's suggestion. Put me on ignore. You won't hurt my feelings.

 

[irish6789]

I doubt you could get into a Notre Dame High School. You are very very stupid.

This comment below from you was an unbridled expression of that....

"If ESPN Gameday was at all of a notable school's games, they would have the number one recruiting class. Period."

Find one recruit out of the tens of thousands available that had his school selection influenced by espn college game day.... Or, just admit you are full of crap.

Are you really that clueless when it comes to the ESPN culture? Why would a kid say Gameday made my choice? That's silly. It makes an impression. It makes a much better impression on these kids than Rockne, Leahy, Ara, or even Lou. How do you not get that? You are an ignorant, sissy Long (probably Fire) Island Bouncer Boy. Your obsession with Charlie Weis fat jokes illustrates exactly what you are.

 

[cgvr]

Are you really that clueless when it comes to the ESPN culture? Why would a kid say Gameday made my choice? That's silly. It makes an impression. It makes a much better impression on these kids than Rockne, Leahy, Ara, or even Lou. How do you not get that? You are an ignorant, sissy Long (probably Fire) Island Bouncer Boy. Your obsession with Charlie Weis fat jokes illustrates exactly what you are.

Nope I was born in Far Rockaway Queens.

Your thought on ESPN Gamedays' influence on recruiting are preposterous, but entertaining.

"ESPN culture" hahahaha keep making stuff up.

Please keep them coming.

Find one recruit out of the tens of thousands available that had his school selection influenced by espn college game day.... Or, just admit you are full of crap.

 

[ForeverNole22]

The issue is basic but hard to resolve.

At the end of the day Andrew is correct. It is a free and public forum. And until a handle breaks a board policy they are as entitled to post here as you, I, or anyone else. The issue becomes ( and this happens often since it is a college board) when multiple people. Not just handles log in from the same location or VPN. For instance before the switch over my handle IP was shared with a poster I had never heard of that was banned in 2005. Because him and u both at one point logged in from the same hotel wifi in Windsor at one point. So if you put a 'burn the earth' policy in where as you ban the IP. I would have been banned. For someone I had never heard of.

Also and this is one that happened just last couple months. We had a poster with a free account. That would occasionally use his father's paid account to log onto the premium content and read it. We knew it, no biggie. Until he had a drunk melt down one night on his free handle. And after it got banned logged onto the premium account to pretend he was someone else to try and defend himself. (Way to much drama for a posting board by the way) @ForeverNole22 was there that night. And it was funny. But should the moderators ban the entire IP and both accounts because of the drunken stupidity of one of them?

As Andrew said. If you come across a poster you just don't like. Fine, put them on ignore. It's a free posting board and not worth the drama. Now if instead you come across posts the break the rules or a poster the habitually breaks board policy. Report them. Because if you are doing it. And others do. Every one of those pops up on a dashboard the moderators see. And they don't go away until they are one way or another resolved.

That's not to say that every time you report someone that will lead to a ban or something else. But it will make the Mods aware of it. And that is 1/2 the battle. I just sent a report on a poster yesterday. I didn't say I required him banned or anything else. I don't have any power or right here anyone else doesn't. But I did note that it was a well known Michigan troll that has started posting under a new handle. Hopefully he gets thrown out on his ear. However if he isn't. Well that was the decision of the board administrators and I will live with it

Wolfpacker is a decent kid, just dumb as a brick. Psute got him good that night. You could see the panic setting in when he got his dad's premium handle banned.

My favorite thread of his was "I just open-hand slapped the neighbor kid."