Marcus Freeman, obviously in WAY over his head, is Jack Swarbrick’s failure.
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Jack has been a good AD, but he should have been more diligent during the head coaching search. Hiring Tommy Rees before the head coach was named was another mistake.
NONSENSE !
Kelly left us in a terrible position
ND should have hired an interim coach
What is nonsense? You’re glad Freeman and Rees were hired? Hope you’ve been enjoying the season…
She's basically agreeing with you but doesn't seem to realize it.
If you knew how to read you would know that I was stridently against the Freeman hire
To be honest, I’m really surprised by this game. We had been playing well the last two games and had seemed to find an identity. Losing to this team that will probably win maybe one or two more games max is just so bad.
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At a minimum it’s time to bring in an offensive consultant to help Rees. Letting him decide we didn’t need one in the off season was a huge mistake.
Jack simply isn’t going to make any changes mid season, so we need to do whatever it takes to improve the offense this season. I don’t see Rees being here next season without a drastic turnaround
Just fire everyone then. When the new regime doesn't have immediate success fire them too. Wash,rinse,repeat. It's a lost season now. Only two ways to go. Panic and have a knee jerk reaction or work harder to improve.
Reminds me of when Knight was fired in 2000 and the IU AD picked Mike Davis to be the coach mainly because the players wanted him. Programs that prestigious don’t hire a guy who’s never been a college head coach. ND keeps doing it (Faust, Davie, Weis, Freeman) and the program stays down.
I suppose so. The wins vs BYU and UNC as you said pretty much looked like vintage BK 2.0.
Still, I wouldn't say 'really' surprised. More like somewhat surprised....
Yep and We saw this shit story happened to the morons in the north and then they had to go find their $9 million savior and it took them years to become halfway decent again.
i Harbaugh I had to wash that program with bleach 100 times over for years before he got back to winning. Same shit story happened to USC. Jack couldn’t see the countless examples of this BS
I have had the same fear that we are now doomed to be USC post poodle. We will give freeman way more time than he deserves and probably not find another great coach for 20 years.
Yep. Who the hell wants to give them another 20 years to get back to above average?
Unfortunately, it seems to take the fan base a long time to recognize things and for the revenue stream to start to drop. Once people stop showing up to games and buying merchandise it’ll happen but that’s gonna take a long time and a lot of losing. About the time most recruits have never heard the name Brian Kelly no I remember Notre Dame being relevant before is about the time Notre Dame will pony up some humongous cash and bring someone in. My guess is that will be somewhere in the 2030s.
Pat- how?
He left us as a perennial Top-7 program. Everything was in place. Kelly owed ND nothing. It was on Jack to make the next move and hire the coach.
100% No quality HC is going to take a HC job where they don't have a decision on bringing in their own assistants. Jack limited his search pool when he signed Rees first.
Rees' ego is massive. Have you heard him speak. He believes he's God's gift to offenses. No one is better. He's a complete joke. He was a shitty player and he's just as bad as an OC. Kelly should have never hired him in the first place.
Correct. What a completely bad post. Freeman was gifted a Ferrari and told not to crash it. He crashed it. I truly believe you have to be absolutely inept to destroy a program this fast. Usually there’s at least a couple of years where you can piggy back.
So instead we’re just losing a lot of games. That’s a great alternative.
I rethought this and understand what you were saying. The way he ditched didn’t do us any favors. I agree, Elston, or I guess maybe Freeman, should’ve been interim and then we should’ve hired Fickell and Fickell could’ve determined if he wanted to keep Freeman around or not. If so they could’ve outbid LSU. but to be honest he didn’t have nearly as good of a year as defensive coordinator as Clark Leah, so let him go.
This is a horrible take. Reality check.
Notre Dames last two top finishes were products of insanely weak schedules, historically bad. Kelly played that out to get the best deal he could before leaving when he KNEW there would be another rebuild phase. He simply didn't have it in him. The fact is Kelly built his teams around a three year window. The last one closed when book left... Kelly prolonged the window with the transfer portal for one year to get his escape plan in place.
Is there talent on the team? Sure, but we were led to believe it was a lot better than it is.
Remember the former wr coach literally said we didn't have players.
Freeman needs and deserves three years.
Rees on the other hand has to go. If freeman can't move on without him THAT will be what turns me off of freeman.
Do you think we'd win games with better coaching and worse players? Over three years I'd take the one year of losing games vs a full rebuild
No. I would always take good coaching over a handful of recruits one year. this is going to cost this program for a decade or more. I could care less about losing a handful of 16 year olds for one season. so what if we don’t have Sneed. Freeman couldn’t keep half the important recruits in this class anyways. He’s not gonna be known as a good recruiter for long.
True about BYU and UNC, two teams far superior to this Stanford team. 17 point favorites at home…just really surprised. People here took for granted beating unranked teams at home and found at that its not that easy.
This season is already a wash. 3-3 with our 2 hardest games left to play. 3 if Syracuse is for real. I want to see the team improve. Freeman's going to have to learn on the job quickly. 6-5 and a bowl win is not great, but at least could be something to build on. Right now my guess would be 5-6.
If he's a bad coach in three years you'd be stacked with recruits and go get a big game coach.
Your scenario get a decent coach and have poor players for the first three years hes here.
Either way you go, it's conceding to a rebuild.
