Here you go. The full episode isn't online yet. Usually takes a day or two for it to hit. When it does if it isn't already linked I will get it up for y'all. In the meanwhile though
Locker Room scene from the last episode of a Season with ND
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Here's an article written about that statement 
http://www.scout.com/college/notre-dame/story/1630036-zaire-ready-to-compete
http://www.scout.com/college/notre-dame/story/1630036-zaire-ready-to-compete
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Beg to differ.. It's how you breed competitiveness in the program and keep a guy engaged who suffered a devastating injury shortly after being named the starter. He knows he will need MZ in some form. Going to be a great battle in the spring.
Engaged? Why would he do that after the bowl game? He's been practicing for 3 weeks. Zaire was head and shoulders better than Kizer coming out of camp. Any improvement that Kizer has made only closed the gap between the two. Kelly knows that Zaire is a game changer! Only way Kizer starts is if Zaire regresses as a QB. I don't really think it will be that much of a battle
Completely disagree with this. Whatever distance was between the two was completely made up in 10 starts and all that development. Zaire may have been better but the fact of the matter is with 4 games of experience then a significant injury vs 10 starts from kizer, there may or may not be a gap. The only way to know is to hold a qb competition. I hope hey are both special but don't fool yourself- there will be an open competition. And if I know anything about bk, he won't cast aside 10 starts of experience because zaire was better what will have been 12 months ago by the time camp comes to completion.
This isn't news.
For anyone who has been watching that show, you'll recall a previous interaction with Zaire and his mother. Go back to the UVA episode and listen to what Kelly told Zaire's family in the locker room after the game. Paraphrasing from memory, he roughly said, "This is your job and it will be waiting for you when you come back."
Look, you don't say that to a family face to face unless you mean it. I posted after that episode that Zaire would be the starter in 2016, and I still believe he will. That's 2 times in public that he has confirmed as much to Zaire.
Sure, there will be a battle, and a starter will not be named until fall practice is well underway. However, Zaire starts at Texas unless he suffers a setback. His leash will be veeeeeeeery short though. I have no doubt we will see Kizer on the field in meaningful situations in 2016.
For anyone who has been watching that show, you'll recall a previous interaction with Zaire and his mother. Go back to the UVA episode and listen to what Kelly told Zaire's family in the locker room after the game. Paraphrasing from memory, he roughly said, "This is your job and it will be waiting for you when you come back."
Look, you don't say that to a family face to face unless you mean it. I posted after that episode that Zaire would be the starter in 2016, and I still believe he will. That's 2 times in public that he has confirmed as much to Zaire.
Sure, there will be a battle, and a starter will not be named until fall practice is well underway. However, Zaire starts at Texas unless he suffers a setback. His leash will be veeeeeeeery short though. I have no doubt we will see Kizer on the field in meaningful situations in 2016.
10 games of inconsistency made up a gap? I think that's overvaluing Kizer and undervaluing Zaire. I didn't say give Zaire the job. I'm saying that Brian Kelly knows in his mind who he wants to start. The position will be decided by a competition, but I don't think it will be that close in the end.
Zaire's sample is 4 games so to me you are overvaluing something we don't know other than basing it on outdated info (that he beat kizer when we had a 0 game sample on kizer). Realistically we know very little about Malik as fans. What we know about how he won the job is outdated. Plus, kizer was good and got better. Only at ND can a rs fr go 8-3, throw for 2700 yards 19tds, rush for 400 yards and another 9 tds, breaking ND records btw, and when I say that means a lot I am told I am overvaluing.
This is going to be a long offseason with this qb situation. Let me be clear- I don't have a dog in the fight, I'll root like hell for any guy that laces it up for ND. I think kizer's sample is just so much bigger that BK can't cast it aside (particularly based on comments made in game 2 after a traumatizing injury and emotional post game). There will be an open competition, no matter what he said on tv to MZs parents, he owes it to the team to let them compete for it as that and only that will give you the best shot at winning. BK owes it to the team more than what he owes anything to MZ for saying what he said. I'm not saying he'll be a liar, he has to have an open competition here and that is the bottom line.
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What did he do against the top two teams he faced? Inconsistent. I like the kid, but's lets not act like he was elite. If anything, he closed the gap and that's it. All those numbers don't mean a thing. He was inconsistent in every big game except Stanford. 4 games is enough to see that Zaire is a gamebreaker. He's 8-1 to win the Heisman and has only played 4 games. I'm pretty sure that Zaire would have passed for more than 2700 yards and definitely would have rushed for more than 400 yards. LOL
It's hard to argue against such little logic based claims. Zaire has started 3 games in his career and one of those he didn't finish and frankly wasn't playing that well against (Virginia), but because kizer had some flaws against the very best elite teams gets dismissed. I mean if Zaire looked mediocre against Virginia... I don't know why you'd give Zaire a pass vs a poor team for a bad performance but kill kizer for being decent against great teams.
Forget it I doubt you care to connect those dots. I hate these arguments. Hate them. I think both will be fine players, players we can win with. You better prepare yourself for a competition.
What? lol. Zaire looked bad in a half against Virginia, then immediately came out and threw a TD pass and ran for 50 yards before getting hurt. LOL. Kizer reads the field slow, kind of like Golson. That's why he's inconsistent. Who gave Zaire a pass? He's a game breaker and Kizer isn't!
You ignored zaire's inconsistent performance v Virginia, that is inherently giving him a pass. You say it yourself (he had a bad half then played better- that description of his play is the definition of inconsistent). So why does he get that pass vs a Virginia team that won 5 games but you don't give kizer the same benefit vs the elite teams? I guess because of some nebulous "he's a game breaker" that you can't really quantify mainly because he's only played in 4 games? Lol
How did i ignore his performance? I just said he played a bad half and then came out and made 2 big plays before getting hurt. Let's be serious. The numbers that Kizer put up would have been surpassed by Zaire. If your eyes can't see that he can explode for big plays at the QB position and be a game breaker, I don't know what else to say. I never dissed Kizer. I said i like the kid. IMO, Zaire is the better college QB and I believe Kelly knows that he needs him to be elite to get to a playoff.
I guess the people in Vegas believe in nebulous that can't be quantified either. They didn't even acknowledge Kizer as a Heisman candidate. Overlooked for a dude that only played 4 games.
So you're resting on a Vegas prop bet 8 months before the next season (with long odds) as the reason there will be no competition? Or that he's flat better? Ok pal. I see what moves you're needle. I'm don't here.
I didn't rest on anything. You like to create separate narratives I see. I like both QBs!! IMO, I believe that Zaire is a better college QB and a game breaker. Period. I work next to former NFL players everyday and get their feedback, so I don't have to reach to Vegas for anything. The Vegas people confirm what I hear from the people in the building of the ND flagship station in Chicago.
But, you win buddy...
I think Kizer certainly closed the gap. The two negatives are that Zaire is a bit short which can hurt when in the pocket and Kizer threw too many balls into the ground (if his feet aren't set it looked pretty bad).
we have two quality capable starting qb's heading into next year. a good prospect backing them up. and a really good recruit.
and all of them seem to be content with their currant positions on the roster.
what is not to be happy about.
and all of them seem to be content with their currant positions on the roster.
what is not to be happy about.
I think Kizer is a quality QB, and think he did more than anyone expected him to, after Malik went down this year. And he should be applauded for not folding, not backing down, and not taking the easy route. That is character, that is what you want in leaders.
And I think that is what will cause him to transfer out if they name Zaire the starter. It is what it is. But I think Malik is Kelly's guy. We know through the Tommy situation he likes to stick with the horse he picks. And Malik was his choice
I also believe he fits the Kelly scheme better than Kizer does. And Wimbush is Kelly's 'QB of tomorrow'. Kizer won't be denied play time at this point. And you could see him transferring after spring practice if it looks like it is going to be Zaire.
And I think that is what will cause him to transfer out if they name Zaire the starter. It is what it is. But I think Malik is Kelly's guy. We know through the Tommy situation he likes to stick with the horse he picks. And Malik was his choice
I also believe he fits the Kelly scheme better than Kizer does. And Wimbush is Kelly's 'QB of tomorrow'. Kizer won't be denied play time at this point. And you could see him transferring after spring practice if it looks like it is going to be Zaire.
