Jim Harbaugh
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I always gave him his due. Starting with Stanford, as I live in the Bay Area and saw what he could do. His elevated them, leaving a foundation for Shaw that lasted a good while...remarkable for a team and school like Stanford.
Sure. San Francisco 49ers. Michigan. Chargers.
He's also to his credit evolved. Was sometimes too rah rah and not enough Xs and Os ironically. Be it college but especially pro level. He course corrected.
You're right...hard to argue with success.
Sure. San Francisco 49ers. Michigan. Chargers.
He's also to his credit evolved. Was sometimes too rah rah and not enough Xs and Os ironically. Be it college but especially pro level. He course corrected.
You're right...hard to argue with success.
Coaching makes a difference.
I had my doubts about Freeman because of his lack of experience, along with the quantum leap from a coordinator to a head coach, but he made a huge difference.
Irrespective of the outcome on the 20th he’s rebuilt Notre Dame into what appears to be a perennial powerhouse
Coaching makes a difference
It certainly does. As we keep discussing, Freeman is proving to be a great coach. But he also benefits from NIL & transfers & brand roster stabilization making ND stronger relative to others.
That is not an insignificant point. MF in my mind would have coached ND better than BK in that Alabama rout in the BCS, but still would have lost by a good clip...as you still need to within some distance of comparable talent.
With that gap having closed a lot, MF really can be deadly. I still think ND can beat Ohio State. I say Ohio State vs ND has 55:45 odds.
I'll take that...MF and the Irish can materialize of these 45% odds in 1 game...let Ohio State have the rest of the hypothetical series that will never be played to make it 55%!
He might have if he stayed.
Not to go off on a tangent...but I believe MI escaped even more punishment because the BIG asserted itself. Avoided the fate of USC and Miami to push an SEC agenda. Slap on the wrist...for violations paling relative to what the SEC long has institutionalized.
They went after Pete Carroll and succeeded. Removing the one true SEC killer at the time. Bush gets punished for rims or what not...but Cam Newton's Dad can get $250k with impunity? Ted Tebow can take ZERO classes his last semester in a major averaging a 3.7GPA when he had 3.4?
I love it. No more going forward with open paying and transfers. Pressing Harbaugh I believe will be the last stroke of selective hypocritical judgments by the NCAA...who runs a pretty sordid affair violating any semblance of a student athlete ideal.
According to Chase, ND has an enormous talent gap and can't possibly compete against the elite teams that are stacked with 5 star recruits. 😝
Whew, you're going full conspiracy theorist. Even harking back to Reggie Bush, 20 years ago, and the historic blue blooded USC Trojans, who were unjustly, or at least disproportionately persecuted by the hated SEC-loving CFB cabal, while godboy Tim Tebow was able to skate, and get away with significant academic irregularities or something. And only one of them had their heisman taken from them.
Maybe that's all true, I don't know. My impression or understanding, or memory of it, was that ND was behind USC and Pete Carroll's downfall. Or at least there was a ND alum that spearheaded the whole thing, and was the chief prosecutor or whatnot. Either working for the NCAA directly, which I would assume, or somehow was the driving force behind the investigation even as a private citizen, who perhaps the NCAA deputized and legally empowered to lead the charge. And the NCAA might have been wiling to happily look the other way, but this one ND person was not willing to let it drop, and the normally venal and complicit NCAA had to yield to this vindictive crusader lest their own credibility as a sanctioning body come into question. But maybe I'm totally wrong about that. I can't remember anymore, I guess I could google it.
True.
The NCAA went after USC and Pete Carroll because of USC’s steadfast refusal to cooperate and AD Mike Garrett’s arrogance.
USC got what they deserved.
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If he hadn't coached at Michigan he would only be a putz and a cheater!
I wouldn't use perennial powerhouse until 1. there's proof for it 2. The level of talent graduates to the first tier. And 3. Notre Dame isn't a double digit underdog to any team in the country.
Notre Dame has been in this very same spot as early as 2012/2013. If Notre Dame isn't competitive versus OSU in the national championship game what is gained from this season? A couple of top 10 wins? We're back stuck in the same spot we've been for the last three decades not having the upside to compete with the best teams in the country yet again.
I guess you need to learn how to count. ND is not a double digit underdog, the line is currently 9.5.
You really are dumb.
I'm ignoring the rest of your comment because it's absolute drivel.
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Truth be told, that poster should be ignored period.
I didn’t think that anybody could be that stupid, and then you proved me wrong
There are 134 division 1 teams
Only 12 made the playoffs, Notre Dame was one of them
Only two teams reach the final, Notre Dame was one of them
When you beat three of the top 12 teams in the country, you’re elite by any metric.
As to what’s been gained, how about beating top 12 teams and being in the championship game.
Upward trend and momentum have been gained
AND
RESPECT
What other university combines the academic standards maintained by Notre Dame and their record on the football field
NO ONE !
Notre Dame is very, very special ! ☘️
